posted Wed, 06/08/2016 - 12:26
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-2 Pharmacom Cycle - First Cycle in 10yrs
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Haven't cycled in 10 yrs. I just ran 10 ml of pharma mix 4 and 10 ml of pharma sust 300. I have a very lean frame and don't have to worry about fat or water weight. I have a very high metabolism and don't normally have a large appetite. 2 weeks after my start date I was eating 5000 calories a day (I'm not going to lie and say I ate chicken breast, brown rice, & steamed veg, we're talking fast food and what my girl cooked). I went from 130 to 170, and gained 24" total. No PIP, no issues as far as test flu. My girl says I got moody, but when you're the one full of hormones, it's hard to be objective about stuff like that.
| Week 1 | Pharma Mix 4 600mg | Pharma sust 300 mg | Pharma Ana .4mg |
|---|---|---|---|
| Week 2 | Mix 4 600mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4mg |
| Week 3 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 4 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 5 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 6 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 7 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 8 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 9 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 10 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
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NolahotboyNo attitude. Apparently no one can read. I have hyperthyroidism. I can either spend 1200$ a month, or 300$ every 3-4 months with much better results and much less bullshit to go thru, i.e. continuous appts, blood tests, paying out the ass and spending time I could be working out or making money hanging out in a Dr's office. I asked no one for advice, about gaining weight, about my cycle, but somehow this post is inundated with people calling me lazy, a drug abuser, a "hardgainer", and a mythological creature who makes bad life choices. I didn't want to have to explain my personal medical business to anonymous hostile people online, but here we are.
Then brother gear is the last thing u need
NolahotboyLet's be clear. None of y'all know me. You don't know that I run two successful businesses, and work a third job from 7pm to 4am Weds-Sun, you don't know that I have a literal medical hormone issue that affects my appetite and size, you don't know my responsibilities, or my goals. I'm not a bodybuilder. Never wanted to be. My goal is to look good because that's where a 1/3 of my money comes from. I'm 5'9-10", if I gain another 40lbs, I'll look disgusting. I'm not trying to be Gregg Valentino or Darius Postovski. My goal is another 15-25lbs on top of this 40, and that will be adding half again my starting weight. I'm so fucking sorry if that's not "hardcore" enough for some of y'all, but it's my personal opinion that from the 125-135 I was at before, to where I am now, took plenty of hard work, and I reap the benefits, you don't.
Yes, eating is hard with no appetite, but understand that even if I ate 6,000(fat and carb heavy) calories a day with no gear, and didn't move a muscle, I wouldn't gain a pound. I have a medical condition that affects my metabolism, and my appetite.
I hate to sound like a 3rd grade teacher, but if you don't have something constructive to say, don't say it, or go find someone else to bash with no facts. Did it ever occur to ask, hey, do you consider yourself a "hardgainer" or do you have an actual issue? How much time do you make to work out? What are your ultimate goals for gain, how big are you trying to get? Are you doing this for yourself, your job, do you compete, is it a hobby?
Anyone of the answers to those might offer some insight.
No. Way.
NolahotboyYes, way. Ass.
I couldn't help it bud. More facetious than anything else.
In regards to hyperT.. I get it. I'd flame those docs that have been taking care of you all your life though you should have had that thyroid removed years ago. I'd be saving up for that cuz that is going to be cheapest in the long run.. without me knowing all the details of your med hx and just guessing.
NolahotboyOh...btw. I own a moving co, I run an adult event entertainment agency, and I work at an All Male Revue for Women at nite, lol, 1/3 of my $$ is literally based entirely on my physical appearance. I wasn't being facetious unfortunately, lol, and God only knows how many of my repeat moving customers call based on that.
NolahotboyThyroid removal comes with its own shit. Believe me, after 18 yrs I've done the research. Honestly, I feel super balanced with the test vs rx, no drowsiness, no hot/cold flashes, I actually have a sex drive. I just can't believe a very simple cycle post has this much crap attached to it, but I truly appreciate your understanding. I wasn't trying to get into all this medial crap, honestly.
RustyhookerYou didnt need roids to grow. Nothing but excuses
NolahotboyLook up hyperthyroidism on wikipedia. I'll wait.
Oh, what's that? Main symptom, inability to gain muscle and adipose tissue, high metabolism, fluctuating appetite?
Symptoms of low testosterone production - low muscle mass, small frame, slowed growth rate.
Oh wait, you guys are right, the doctors I've been seeing for almost 17 yrs are totally wrong, I'm just a lazy, bad choice making person.
RustyhookerMore excuses. Tren slams thyroid to the dumpster.
NolahotboyBut helps me gain weight and increases my appetite. Wtf?
Oh, so what you're saying is, It practically cures my condition, oh good, I didn't notice(wait, yes I did.)
Tren doesn't help your metabolism especially in your case but nice try.
Talks about curing hypothyroidism with tren when it's a treatable condition and in most cases curable with an RX prescription. An is relatively inexpensive with insurance.
NolahotboyI was responding to rustyhooker who said tren slams your thyroid thru the floor, according to his "facts", then tren should cure my condition.
I'm not saying it cures my condition, I'm saying I feel better on gear than I do on the 4 incredibly expensive and time consuming rx's that are prescribed for my condition. That I've been taking for 16 years, so I feel like I'm the one that knows my situation.
Oh btw, My specialist isnt covered by my insurance, and neither is much of my medication.
I'm hyperthroid, not hypo.
From your pics, it looks like poor decisions are a way of life for you.
I was a "hard gainer" until I got the discipline to really eat and so what it takes to gain muscle, that doesn't dissapear when you get off gear. Man up and eat. Good luck.
NolahotboyIf you don't eat you don't gain I hear that but how do you make yourself eat if your not hungry bro?
That's why it's the hardest thing to do in bodybuilding. Much harder than lifting. You just have to man up and do it. One meal at a time.
RustyhookerWhat a joker
You needed gear to get from 140 to 170. Are you fucking kidding me?
NolahotboyI'm not a fat fuck who's weight fluctuates like crazy.
md6986Good awnser bro not a lot of hard gainers here they don't get it, you are looking good and I can definitely see a huge difference. Shoveling that much food can be a pain but it makes a huge difference
What? -2 You may be a great guy. I don't know you. Your comment and encouragement here are that of a complete moron. If I ever see you here in the cycle logs doing something like this again I am gonna host a neg party. I've never hosted a neg party yet. It will be my first. I expect a great turnout. I will send invites out on other sections of the site!! I also have over 350 friends I can personally invite via PM. Trust me, you do not want to be the guest of honor at my neg party.
NolahotboyHow are you going to host a negative party for someone who was literally sympathizing? I'm still curious how anyone can call me lazy, and say that my pictures are an indication of bad choices I've made, when they've never met me, have never involved themselves in my life, and don't seem to have much better to do besides maybe work out, and then talk garbage to people they don't know. He was literally making a comment saying he understood how hard it can be to gain weight. Why is that a problem? Why aren't you wanting to throw one of your famous "neg parties" for the people on here commenting quite rudely, about someone's business they know next to nothing about? I don't post unwarranted negative crap around here, and I don't feel like that's what that kid was doing at ALL.
I've never hosted a neg party. Ever. So mine can't be famous.
Bro, honestly, neither I nor anybody else knows anything about your life.
This is not Facebook.
What I do know about is steroids, and training, and diet.
What you are defending about what you did with anabolic steroids is drug abuse. Plain and simple. It shows a complete lack of understanding of how anabolic hormones are to be applied and when and under what circumstances.
For someone to support what you did is not good. That's all.
Did I get a little dramatic with the guy. Yeah, I did.
NolahotboyIt's drug abuse to take anabolic steroids without prescription, what are you talking about? I'm a drug abuser because I'm not on a strict diet and I don't work out 3x a day? What? Again, you don't know me or how or why I train. You can tell me it's your opinion that gaining 1/3 of your body weight in muscle through literally working out (obviously not strict diet) didn't require time or work, and I can disagree, but where would that leave us?
How am I not free to diet and train how I want, in my life, (in America, dammit, lol) without having to wonder if people who are uninformed about my life, diet, and training habits, are going to somehow try and impose the titles of "lazy" "drug abuser" "makes bad life choices" when all I did was post a brief summary of my cycle. Not my training regimen, diet, and cycle, literally, just my cycle and a couple offhand comments. I'm amazed that there are people willing to be so directly negative about a situation they know nothing about.
Bro, I am growing very weary very quickly about references to "your life" and "your situation." This forum is not to be construed as some kind of support group for people with "life issues."
Eroids is a steroid source review website. It also evolved to include informative forums. Taking juice at 130 lbs. is abuse. And, more annoying is the boldface lie that you are telling claiming to have gained 40 lbs. of muscle? Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound to the guys on this site that know better? Or worse, do you believe your own bull shit?
NolahotboyDude. I didn't post on here for advice. I posted as a person who greatly enjoyed the result he got from his pharmacomstore.org products. If I didn't take hormone, I'd stay at 130, I have a fucking medical condition. Why would I lie about what I gained? I was 130-5, I'm 175 now, wtf? I'm not claiming some outrageous shit like, I'm 6'2" and I was 135, now I'm 275. I have hyperthyroidism, it prevents me from creating fat and retaining water. Why is this such a big deal for y'all?
Bro, bro,
Let "us all" (I'm a Southerner) look at it this way. Catalyst came up with this in a different situation.
You take 40 lbs. of steak, 40 fucking pounds of red meat and put that on your kitchen counter.
You claim you created that and gained that in 10 weeks? Do you? Do you fucking really??????
LMFAO Dang what a load of shit.
NolahotboyLook at the pictures. I have no reason to lie. I had 10wks of sus 300, test 250, and dianabol, and followed with a larger cycle of mix 4, and sus 300. First time cycling in 10 years, and I feel much better now than I did for the last 10yrs on the rx's my specialist prescribed. Why is it so hard to believe that I gained 40lbs? I went from not eating and training 2-3x a week to eating 6-9000 calories and working out 5-7x a week, which I couldn't do taking the rx's for my condition, or not medicated or on gear at all. I'm not claiming I am 6'2" originally 135 (impossible, unless you're a holocaust victim, or u have a medical condition) and I'm now 270 like SOME ppl on this forum, I'm fucking 5'9 1/2" with a normal weight of 130, MEDICATED FOR MY CONDITION. I have a very small frame. If I choose to run gear and feel normal, instead of spend thousands at the Dr and on rx and feel like a zombie, isn't that my choice? And why would I lie when I have pictures?
Bro,
Oh, you misunderstand. I have no trouble believing you gained 40 lbs. Coming back at me with some line about your hyperthyroidism preventing you from gaining any fat and water so it must be all that 40 lbs. of solid red meat isn't gonna sell bro. You must think I'm some kind of country bumpkin idiot. Despite your thyroid condition, you gained fat and water both. No one puts 40 lbs. of red meat on their body in 10 weeks. You don't know that, but I'm a bodybuilder with a long competition history and I know that. And so does just about every intermediate or senior member of this board. And, not only this board, but try selling that "I can't gain fat or water due to my thyroid condition" so it's all muscle on some other hardcore board on the net. You feel disrespected HERE, I can PM you a list of muscle forums with members that are just about all as seasoned as I am. They won't disrespect you bro, they'll cut your balls off. You would be a laughing stock. And, I just know you for some reason are oblivious to this detail, but if you continue to dig in with this ridiculous idea you gained 40 lbs. of muscle in 10 weeks and if you should elect to continue to argue with me about this, you will end up a laughing stock here as well. You're on your way. What you are contending is not possible.
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