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Wife and I are doing IVF. Apparently they use HGH as an off label to assist during the stim phase for egg quality and health. Sure. No problem.

How expensive could it be? 3 vials of 5mg is $1500. Jesus christ. I told her I know a place i can get it for literally a tenth of the price....lol....doesnt like that idea. Damn bros, I could buy ALOT of HGH for $1500. Forced to support big pharma lol

Scipeno's picture

It's rip off, the vast majority of the sources on this site. HGH is incredibly priced gouged even for the UGL market. A reasonable price is closer to one dollar per unit.

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Pipeliner47's picture

Guessing she is over 35 and or has low ovarian reserves? Has the Dr. mentioned coQ10 200-600mg split through the day? We had a girl at age 41+42

Really that was the best advice we found for an older couple. You would want to wait for dropping your seed until after 2-3 months on it. I've heard GH can be very beneficial for the man as well considering sperm quality. But wow that's taxed the hell up. Damn

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BertAK-47's picture

Bro even genotropin pens around here is a hell of a lot cheaper. If you wanna make sure it’s pharma I’d just go that route. 1500 is out of line

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Daylightdriller's picture

I told my doctor I was running hgh and some peptides. He offered to put me on a prescription until I told him how cheap I can get it.

Bodhi's picture

You aren’t forced to do anything. Have an honest discussion with your wife about the cost versus the potential benefit. IVF clinics are well versed in playing the “can’t have a baby” game. Using the emotional distress of that situation.

As far as I know, Genotropin isn’t sold as a 5 mg vial in the U.S. It’s typically marketed in cartridges or pens (and internationally there are presentations expressed in mg or IU). So “3 vials of 5 mg” doesn’t immediately sound like Genotropin, but it could be another brand of somatropin.

Five mg is approximately 15 IU, so 3 × 5 mg is about 45 IU total.

Unless it’s actually pharmaceutical Genotropin or another FDA-approved brand, I’d have a hard time justifying that price. Even then, I’d still have questions. With GoodRx, you can get three 5 mg Genotropin pen cartridges for around $900-1,100.

$1,500 for 45 IU is $33.33 per IU. Is your wife aware she’s paying roughly $32.75 more per IU than typical UGL pricing?

A 5 mg (15 IU) lyophilized vial is a very common presentation for generic somatropin and UGL. It’s also a presentation used by some legitimate manufacturers outside the U.S., so a 5 mg vial by itself doesn’t prove it’s underground. IVF clinics, however, operate in a space where patients are often emotionally vulnerable, so I’d want to know exactly what they’re selling.

Some pharmaceutical or internationally marketed somatropin products, that I’m aware of, which have been available in vial form include Saizen (Merck), Omnitrope (Sandoz), Zomacton (Ferring), Humatrope (Eli Lilly), Norditropin (Novo Nordisk), and Genotropin (Pfizer, primarily pens/cartridges).

That said, 15 IU vials are incredibly common in the bodybuilding/UGL market, which is why the dosage immediately caught my attention. IVF clinics have a lot to lose if they’re knowingly relabeling UGL, but I wouldn’t put it past some of them.

More likely possibilities are an FDA-approved brand that’s been repackaged, relabeled, and dispensed by the clinic or pharmacy they use, a compounded product from a licensed 503B outsourcing facility, or an imported pharmaceutical product if they’re outside the U.S. or working through a specific import program.

I’d ask exactly what brand they’re dispensing, who the manufacturer is, and ask for the NDC. If it’s a legitimate pharmaceutical product, that is a very easy and standard question to answer. I’d also ask why it can’t be filled through another specialty pharmacy. If the same amount of pharmaceutical Genotropin can be purchased through GoodRx for around $900-1,100, where is the extra $400-600 going? Seriously ask the clinic these questions. I’d be curious to see how they respond and if they deflect or dodge the questions.

If they’re charging $1,500 for 45 IU ($33.33/IU), I’d want to know it’s an FDA-approved brand, if it’s a compounded product, or something else before assuming the price is justified. Personally, this feels like a massive cash grab by the clinic. And I would be seriously considering a different clinic for my wife and baby.

If they are relabeling a 503B compounding pharmacy, that could be as much as a 30× markup. If they are relabeling UGL, that could reasonably be a 60-80× markup. You could buy ~3,200 IU for $1,600.

Hopefully you and your wife can get some straight answers before spending that kind of money. I genuinely wish you both the best.

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Jockstrap's picture

Utter crap. Grrrrrr! Gouge badly

Typically they use hcg but this one's using hgh

bamboo2112's picture

But doctors deserve paid vacations and third homes too

N2F's picture

And lots of malpractice suits

bamboo2112's picture

Very True
I do remember the doctor who has over 200 kids
Imagine having to come up with his child support payments

Massa Ron's picture

Real pharma GH is expensive. I’ll never know if it actually works better because I’m very happy with my UGL GH.

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5percent4life's picture

I noticed roughly the same results with genotropin and saizen vs high quality ugl. But serostim is on a whole different level than any other

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BertAK-47's picture

100% agree to all that. Serostim is magic lol. But good uGL still burns fat and all the stuff genotropin pens around here did for me. Maybe back in the day the generic gh sucked but I don’t think it does now

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