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Newbie here

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As of rn I'm natty but I'm planning to start with test npp and anavar, can anyone help me out?
I found sources and I've already bought 2 vials of 250mg test cyp and and 2 vials 100mg npp. Is this enough for a first cycle?
I think I'm gonna buy anavar later on too.

I was thinking 300mg test 250 mg npp and 20, work up to 40 anavar near the end of the cycle.
Lmk if this is a shitty idea.

l8marshall's picture

three compounds (test, NPP, anavar) for a first cycle is a lot of variables to start with. NPP especially hits harder on suppression and prolactin, and first-timers often aren't ready for that. If something goes wrong, you won't even know which compound caused it.
If you're going ahead regardless, pay attention to: bloodwork before and during the cycle (lipids, liver, hematocrit, hormones), a PCT plan already sourced and ready, not something you'll sort out later, and knowing the symptoms of prolactin or estrogen issues so you catch problems early

Khandum's picture

Test only bro

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shredski's picture

What kinda test? Algebra, physics, social studies???

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Khandum's picture

The calculus kind, Test C.

I wouldn’t be surprised seeing someone seriously ask that though lmfao

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Bodhi's picture

Test only, brother.

I’d strongly suggest your first 2 to 4 cycles be testosterone only. You can build an incredible physique with just test, and it lets you learn how your body responds before you start adding variables.

You may or may not need an AI, but I’d definitely have one on hand. Don’t take it preemptively. Only use it if bloodwork and symptoms indicate you need it. You don’t want estrogen related side effects and nothing available to manage them.

As for your math, assuming the vials are accurately dosed, two 10 mL vials of 250 mg/mL Test C gives you 5,000 mg total. That’s about 16.7 weeks at 300 mg/week or 20 weeks at 250 mg/week, so you’ve got plenty for a first cycle.

Most beginners start somewhere in the 200 to 400 mg/week range, with 12 to 16 weeks being a common first cycle length. Get baseline bloodwork before you start, repeat it during and after the cycle, and have your PCT planned before your first injection, not after.

Shredski dropped a line to the newbie sections. I recommend you spend a few hours reading around the site and use the search box at the top, almost every question you will think of has been answered.

Novalentinehere's picture

Test only

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shredski's picture

First cycle should be test only as @Aggieguy said you need to figure out how your body reacts to test alone. Get bloods pre cycle and 8 weeks in. Focus on nutrition for adding lean bulk and workout like a beast here’s a solid read

https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner/steroids/how-to-run-a-first-...

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ewood's picture

What exactly am I looking for getting my blood checked? I already got my nutrition down and I push my self hard in the gym I'm excited for this, am I gonna notice a huge strength increase and size increase with just test?

shredski's picture

Get CBC, CMP, lipids, total/free test, sensitive E2, SHBG, LH/FSH, prolactin, PSA, liver/kidney markers, thyroid, glucose/A1c, vitamin D, and IGF-1 if you’re running GH. Know your baseline before you pin so you know what the cycle actually changes.

And yes you will amazed at would your body can do running a test only cycle. Having an idea of where ur natural levels are will give you an idea of where to start come back with bloods and we can help you

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ewood's picture

Fuck this is expensive..

shredski's picture

It’s your fucking health brother you should be spending more on making sure your health markers are on point before worrying about gear. Rythym health has all your basic markers for a subscription of $80 a month which would give u a good idea

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Aggieguy's picture

If it’s your first cycle it should be testosterone only you dont even know how your body will react or if you will grow man boobs. Also you should be researching and looking at stuff before you even think about starting. Did you even do any blood work?

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CLAPPER's picture

My boyfriend is always right

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ewood's picture

not yet I am planning to, I'll start with just test then

Aggieguy's picture

You also will need to get an Ai on hand like Anastrozole to keep estrogen in check while on Test.

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ewood's picture

btw, my goal is to lean bulk I wanna gain some serious size and strength quick without becoming a bloat monster