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Continuing on the HGH convo from yesterday, the first 2 weeks I didn’t get any pins and needles feeling or very very minimal, but when I started adding in NPP to the mix I think is when the combo of the 2 went over the top
To the smart guys, should I come off GH for a week to see if it goes away, lower my dose weekly of NPP (250mg)
Tried morning shot yesterday and last night sleep was the same left hand pain
Depends how you want to attack it. Do you want to add more drugs to the equation?
If yes to drugs, then you want something for aldosterone. Low dose Spironolactone (25-50mg/day) or, even better but more expensive, Eplerenone (25mg/day). Combine that with increasing your water intake. If you think you’re drinking enough, you’re not. Then watch your sodium/potassium/magnesium intake.
No drug route is maintaining the potassium, dandelion root, and could even add celery seed extract. Come off the GH for about 72hours. Then start back at a lower dose and very slowly titrate up. Slowly being every 1-2 weeks not 2-3 days.
Morning shots are a one way ticket to insulin resistance. Stick with bolus dosing before bed. That’s the safest route for long term glucose management
Switching to gh before bed was life changing for me
How do? Ive been doing fasted morning shots to help with fat mobilization, but my sleep sucks and im thinking of doing split dose morning and night
You don’t get the fat loss benefit until 3-4 hours post injection. If you inject and then go do fasted cardio it’s doing nothing for you. If you inject before bed, your levels will still be elevated when you wake up, you will be fasted, and the fat loss effect with be prevalent during your cardio session.
Also I typically inject around 3:30 AM, hit the gym at 5 to lift, and then I’m hitting 30 mins of cardio at 6:30-7 so inadvertently it seems like my timing was good lol
We got the same schedule more or less. Except I get up at 4:30. Lift then 30min cardio after. I still prefer the nighttime shot because the GH would still be elevated and eating post workout with a lot of carbs was still leading to insulin resistance problems. Since only doing bedtime shots my fasted blood glucose hasn’t budged even eating at peak bulk which is 800-1000g carbs
Not sure if true, but recntly I read that nightly shots are also benefenical because one is getting the natural pulse 1-3 hours after falling asleep then getting the pulse from the GH another 1-3 hours later. That’s if, and only if, GH doesn’t suppress natural GH production.
Do you think 3iu is too much for a nightly dose? I’m currently using 2iu. I don’t want to do the split dose, from the reason you mentioned above.. ie) takes 1-3 hours to hit system and faster cardio is already over by the time it hits and the insulin sensitivity issue.
Your GH production is shutdown for 48-60h post injection. There is no natural pulse even if you dosed first thing AM.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10714753/#:~:text=Conclusion%3A%20After%....
The serostim pamphlet says 18IU in one bolus dose at night. So take that for what it’s worth coming from pharmaceutical company directly.
https://www.serostim.com/en/hcp/dosage-and-administration.html
“ Your GH production is shutdown for 48-60h post injection. There is no natural pulse even if you dosed first thing AM.”
Knowing this information, taking a GH analog (Tessa, semamorlin, etc) is a complete waste of money and adding compounds to one’s bodies for no reason.
Is that a correct assumption?
Correct.
Secretagogues are only meant to stimulate the production and delivery mechanism of GH. They have their place, just not if your taking exogenous GH
At this point I’m letting the Reta handle the fat loss. I think it’s time to switch to nightly
Any chance of accutane restock soon?
Also, anyone have advice for those who have occasional breakouts on gear? All androgen related. Not too crazy I just hate dealing with it. Accutane is doing its thing so far but don’t want to run it long term for obvious reasons.
Cb-03-01 for both acne and balding induced by dht
More effective than finasteride or dutasteride? First I’ve heard of this compound. I’m currently about a week into low dose dutasteride. Ghk year round. Been low dosing accutane for almost two months. So far so good just always looking for options because I’m prone to it popping back up. Probably just something I’ll deal with genetically unfortunately.
Subq Ghk is just cope. Try topical ghk but even then it only does so much throw the kitchen sick for hairloss i do micro needling 1-2x weekly topical ru-58841 and minoxidil also have topical fin on on the way
Couldn’t sleep for shit last night on 4IU of HGH, left hand tingling like crazy, found some natural diuretics online to see if any of that shit will help before I lower the dose
I just jumped in there because I'm looking for a new source. My old source just raised their minimum to $700 so I'm done w/ them. But I've always had that issue w/ GH. Some people react differently. I tried all different times, but now take mid morning, about 3 hours after breakfast and 1 hour before the gym. The insomnia went away and IGF 1 levels are good. Your post tells me this stuff is likely good , thanks for the info.
That's crazy I sleep like a baby on HGH. Its the only way I can sleep when im taking tren -- i do 4IUs at night and 4IUs in morning no arm pain or anything. Sometimes I get hand swelling but not crippling
You are probably pretty healthy in general and keep salts and sugars low. I don’t get the sides like others either. I imagine if I had a bunch of carbs and sugar before bed I would be awake too with the HGH spiking blood sugar levels
Insomnia is really the only side I get from hgh, it fucking sucks. I'm on 6 iu at night
Try am shots. That's what I had to do, now I sleep great
I'm just worried about glucose rising, I can't fast during the day
I dont fast. I eat every 2 or 3 hours.
Yep! This is what fixed it for me!!!!
same. I found that AM shots agree with me way more.
Taurine helps as well reducing CTS.
Potassium during the day and magnesium at night before along with 5iu works good for me
J-oshMorning time for me is the only way I can handle it. ZMT by [REDACTED] at night with selank has been very helpful too.