posted Wed, 06/17/2026 - 19:35
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+ 1 Winstrol - cut finisher.
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So this is my first time using Winstrol. I was waiting until I got the weight low enough to truly utilize it. So the scale this morning before my fasted cardio was 210. So it was time to implement the winstrol. Didn’t know what to expect. I took 50mg before my gym session and the pumps and strength was actually insane! I didn’t expect to get that much strength increase from winstrol. Reminded me of like a 25mg anadrol. Anyhow, next two weeks I’ll be posting my updated physique from last time… you thought the 315lbs to 230 was special.
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I love the look and feel winny gives me when I'm shredded but man it totally fucks my hair and if I run for more than 2-3 weeks it gives me crazy heartburn and acid reflux.
If no bad sides you'll get dry, grainy and feel incredible in the gym until the joints start to dry out haha
Decided to give var a try this year to see how I respond to this
If winny wasnt so toxic, it might be my favorite steroid for strength. Ive only used it... maybe 4 or 5 times, usually in short cycles. 3/4 weeks at a time. I dont think ive ever felt stronger on anything. Id personally rank it comparable to anything else in terms of pure strength gainer. The times ive been on it, stick out in my foggy memory.
The first couple times I ran it, no side effects. Now that im older, if I dont stack low dose deca/npp, ill feel it im my joints by the end of the cycle.
Looking great, Big…
If your joints start talking back, a little sprinkle of NPP can make a world of difference. Some guys are more sensitive to Winny than others.
For me personally, taking it PWO never did much. The real magic happened once blood levels stabilized and I respected the compound’s half-life. That’s when the physique changes really started showing up.
One thing I’d keep an eye on is HDL. Winny can absolutely send it into the basement. I personally use pitavastatin and ezetimibe to help counter that, but that’s just what works for me.
Great compound, a little controversial for some, but hard to argue with the results.
Enjoy the run, Big bro !
I was just thinking about this last night. Let’s say your goal is to just loose as much body fat and hold strength. Zero cares about cosmetics. Wouldn’t running a test/ Deca cycle be the best solution if again cosmetic is of no concern sheerly loosing fat and holding on to muscle/ strength..
Good point, bro, and I agree with you.
The only caveat I’d add is that if someone is actively trying to get lean, then cosmetics are already part of the equation to some degree. Maybe not stage conditioning or Photoshop-ready lean, but they’re still chasing a certain look.
The part that can get tricky with Deca/NPP is the psychological side. Some people are losing fat just fine, but because they’re holding a little extra water from the compound, they don’t see the visual changes they expect in the mirror. Then they start thinking the diet isn’t working or that they’ve stalled when neither is actually true.
That’s why, from a balanced perspective, I’d probably lean toward a DHT derivative as the second compound(mast or primo) and keep NPP/Deca as the third. You get the performance, recovery, and joint benefits of nandrolone while also getting some of the cosmetic benefits that help reinforce the fact that the fat loss is actually happening.
I mean , your point is absolutely valid. If competition-level conditioning and the cosmetic side are completely off the table, Test + Deca/NPP is hard to argue against from a performance and muscle retention standpoint.
That makes perfect sense.. nice info Panda
Nope you’re totally right - you would have no idea how the fuck you’re actually doing with water suit on lol absolutely shooting in the dark. This was fun thought experiment
Panda, great point! A sprinkle of NPP will be in most if not all of my cycles moving forward.
Yeah I’ve been running deca 200mg for my joints for last 8 weeks to prepare for the winny. I also am already on ez and rosuvastatin. I’ll need to look into the half life saturation. Thank you brother.
I love winny and haven’t found the joint pain that it supposedly causes. I have heard speculation and I agree with it that Winstrol doesn’t directly cause the joint pain, rather it’s usually deployed in a hard cut scenario where estrogen is getting smashed already, and then the strength brought on by it magnifies the fact that your joints are already in a somewhat compromised state.
Makes sense to me, and again my user experience has been great with both oral and injectable versions.
That makes sense.
Ive always just figured its because you body is "dried out." Less lubrication everywhere.
I like winny the two times I ran it! I didn’t get any joint pain that other people claim happens. Infact I liked winny so much I told myself I was gonna not run it unless I’m Competing so it has that pop to it.
Same here. No joint pain and I have injected up to 100 mg per day.
The only thing that can hurt my joints is too much ai I feel like
Wreck your joints brother be careful … stick to injectable if you can but that stuff will destroy and bring up nagging injuries
I love Winny, it’s my fav oral. For max results, take 25 mg as soon as you wake, and another 25mg 6-8 hours later. It gives you a clean energy feeling all day.
The one downfall, is that you can only run Winny for 6 weeks. I mean, you can run it longer, it has a littler harsher liver profile however Winny is gonna dry out your joints pretty bad so pain by week 6-7 is not worth it. I also heard that you are more prone to injuries on long runs of sunny, unsure how true that is
I run Winny 4 weeks on 4 weeks off. During a cycle. Plus I have a shit ton of it from IL’s bogo.
If you want an amazing PWO, injectable Winny is the goat. The water based version is very painful pip
Agree with you on the PIP from water based winny. Oil is definitely the way to go if you’re pinning 100mg daily lol.
Is the IL oral? Haven’t tried theirs.
Yea.. do you know a source that has oil?
Got it.. thanks @shredski @ChoZeN
Got you big dawg
@Greg