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+ 18 Steroids and Addiction

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I occasionally will have people come up to me asking about steroids and peptides and whatnot, and my usually response goes like ... "sorry I don't know where to get them" or do your research before you decide to go down this journey". However, I had a really interesting conversation with a regular I see often who said he was thinking about hopping on testosterone. I gave him my usual answer, however, he responded saying he's worried about becoming addicted to them. He asked if I thought I was addicted to them, and frankly I'm not sure.

I reflected on this, and perhaps while I'm not physically addicted to them like one would be with hard drugs, I'm 100% addicted to the results and constant yearning for "more". More gear = more results right? I'd like to think I'm not alone with this mentality, and want to ask the community what yall think about steroid use and addiction.

How can we hold ourselves accountable, and value our health first while on PED's?
Can you be addicted to steroids?

Hugs and kisses

TBlack's picture

The answer is more complicated than a simple yes or no.

Anabolic steroids aren’t like alcohol, nicotine, or many illicit drugs that create a direct chemical addiction. Most people don’t inject testosterone and immediately develop a physical craving for the compound itself.

But addiction is a strange animal. (This I know first hand!)

It sneaks in through the side door. It often isn’t the substance that’s addictive it’s the feeling.

Money can be addictive. Power can be addictive. Recognition can be addictive. The rush you get when someone at the gym says, “Man, you’re looking great.” The confidence boost when clothes fit differently. The attention you receive when people notice your transformation. Those are all dopamine hits.

Over time, some people become attached to the physique, the strength, the performance, or the validation that comes with it. They tell themselves they’re in control, while making excuses for why they need just one more cycle, one more compound, or one more pound of muscle.

So are steroids themselves addictive?

For most people, no.
But the feeling they create can be.
And sometimes that’s the harder addiction to recognize.
@Pumped_ said it best. 1. God 2. Family 3. Work

Pumped_'s picture

And in that order.!

Pumped_'s picture

1.God

2. Family

3. Work.

If you you put any priority on your list above those three then you are negatively addicted, if not then you can consider yourself a "functioning addict". Everything else you do in life should be #4- #10 on your priority list.

wanted's picture

I’m screwed

Mlbonmyway's picture

What if steroids makes you a better a version of this list?

Pumped_'s picture

You can be a better version but still have your priorities in order. Its called Life Skills

Notmelgibson's picture

Unless you’re willing to do an armed robbery of a pharmacy or be a gay prostitute for steroids I’d say you’re not addicted

randomdude's picture

How firm is your stance on the gay prostitution thing? Asking for a friend.

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bamboo2112's picture

I never get tired of middle-aged men (24 -47) adding one addition to another. Everything is addictive. Are you adult enough to put your priorities in order and put your health and family first!

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Spool's picture

I have Addictive Personality Disorder. That applies to everything I find enjoyment in or get reward from. Good, bad, and extremely ugly. I’ve taught myself extraordinary things but also tore myself apart over the years because of it. It all depends on application.

randomdude's picture

Great question.

Are any of these compounds inherently addictive? I really have no idea.

Do people get addicted to things that aren’t inherently addictive? Yes in a way.

Now I’ll be thinking about this every time I pin dammit.

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Petecastiglione's picture

Well more gear isn’t more gains once the sides take over. If you feel like shit and can’t train to full capacity cuz ur gear is too high, or you’re just getting a bunch of sides in general, then less is more.

I think it’s more of an addiction of improvement than the gear itself.

The biggest problem here is that too many people fail to understand they aren’t where they want more than likely bc they aren’t dialed in with diet and training. Upping the dose will not fix shitty food intake or replace dialing in their workouts to meticulous, intense, and consistent training. I guarantee these people unhappy with their progress will completely transform dialing in, even if they use half the gear they’re using now. THE ANSWER ISNT UPPING THE FUCKING DOSE IF YOU ARENT DIALED THE FUCK IN

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CLAPPER's picture

I’ve always liked the saying that gear amplifies your lifestyle. If you’re binge eating Crunchwrap supremes while jerking off to hentai 24/7, yah gear will worsen your health to a much greater extent had you been metabolically healthy.

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Pandateston's picture

Like I said, if you become closer to the person you’ve always wanted to be, that feeling, that lifestyle, and that sense of progress can absolutely become addictive.

But in my opinion, that’s very different from being addicted to the chemicals themselves.

Sure, higher testosterone can make you feel better, more confident, more driven. But I think what most people get attached to is the feeling of improvement and what they’re able to achieve because of it.

Honestly, I don’t see it as being much different from the opposite end of the spectrum. A sedentary couch potato chasing comfort, junk food, instant gratification, and dopamine hits all day long is also stuck in a cycle. It’s just a matter of perspective.

To be honest, I think most people who get into this lifestyle … even with all the trade-offs and risks involved … end up becoming a better version of who they were before.

That’s a win in my book.

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CLAPPER's picture

“ To be honest, I think most people who get into this lifestyle … even with all the trade-offs and risks involved … end up becoming a better version of who they were before”

Like what @Trinitykiller69 said, if being “addicted” to gear is making you the best possible version of yourself, who’s anyone to judge?

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Steeltoad777's picture

Theres a rogan quote I like "Drugs are tools. Give one man a hammer, he'll build a house. Give a different guy the same hammer, he'll smash himself in the dick."

I can get addicted to anything. Out of all my vices, steroids at least have some great benefits. Im not sure if its been a net positive but compared to other vices it certainly has.

We can hold ourselves accountable by... speaking up on here. Being honest about our stats/cycles on here and with our friends. Doing labwork. Taking support med/supplements on cycle and pct.

I used to have the more = more results mentality. Not the best way to look at it. Although its tough not to. Im all about minimal effective doses now, and more emphasis on food/diet.
The less gear I use, the healthier im being, in my mind.

I do think that its rare for people to start testosterone and then stop so... in that sense... I think jts wise to tell people that if they want to try it, be prepared to possibly be sticking yourself with a needle the rest of your life. That doesnt mean that youre abusing steroids. But your body will need it to function properly.

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Jahbabble's picture

I'm more addicted to buying steroids and getting that sweet touchdown serotonin. The plus being if the market stopped today I'm in good shape with my stash for a long time

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276Chaos's picture

I would rather be addicted to steroids instead of the drugs I was addicted to years ago if I could go back in time I would kick my younger self's ass

wanted's picture

Hi my name is WANTED
I am addicted to eroids
I am addicted to steroids
I am addicted to banging girls
In yoga pants

Aggieguy's picture

Yes I am addicted to them because of the results I see. Now when I look at this addiction I am a responsible addict. I do blood work and I listen to my body and I clcyle the grear. When it comes to testosterone yes I am staying on it for life, it gives more benefits than not so thats a choice I made.
If all of this ends up killing me in the long run, well I enjoyed a life looking good and it all helped me mentally with more confidence.

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Gainz411's picture

Well said. I’d rather live an enjoyable 80 years than being 80 and needing help walking up the steps.

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Milfpounder's picture

I'm addicted to eroids, not steroids

sandman3698's picture

I'm addicted to you.

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Aggieguy's picture

...and I am addicted to dick and want all of you!

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sandman3698's picture

Let's go sailing.

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Mlbonmyway's picture

Good topic. I was addicted to hard drugs and have been clean from alcohol and drugs for 14 years. Although, I do not consider myself sober because AAS's are absolutely mind and mood altering especially when tren, orals, etc are brought into the mix.

Short answer yes...I believe people and myself can be addicted to steroids.

It has closely mimiced my previous addiction. In my experience...it started innocent...TRT for well being and progressed to other compounds (etc) chasing gains. My INITIAL body weight and esthetic goals were reached and then suddenly changed to MORE which I justified.

It has progressed, to the point, I have promised my wife when I reach a certain body weight I will "maintain." Hopefully, its not the classic "addict" empty promise.

CLAPPER's picture

“Maintaining” is hard. Once you get that dream physique, for me at least, it wasn’t enough.

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shredski's picture

I hate the term coined “addictive personality” how about I have drive and unbending will for what I want? Although I can get hung up on wanting the “wrong things” when I put my mind to something nothing can stop me. Idk just my two cents

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WinstonBud's picture

I mean, you ain’t wrong. There has always been something driving me towards something. It’s an internal push to improve and prove to myself that I can do something. I fucking love it when someone doubts me, because I’ll fucking do whatever to prove to them and myself that I can do it. So yes, I like that better than addictive personality.

shredski's picture

Oh man the power of spite what a driving force it can be. I think that’s why I have negative thoughts about what other people think about me so I can self drive that spite lol

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WinstonBud's picture

Oh man, ain’t that the truth! I had a teacher in high school once ask me if I was going to waste his time again because I did terrible in a previous class because he was boring AF. So in that 2nd class I finished first in the class. Then I went and got two Master’s degrees knowing that some dude doubted my work ethic and intelligence. Spite is a Hell of a motivator!

WinstonBud's picture

As someone with an addictive personality, I’d say yes, this is an addiction. Fortunately, ever since I was in the military, I used that personality as a driver for fitness. I was a long distance runner, and a relatively good one. But when I ran myself into the ground with injuries, I turned to food and not good food. I lost 10 years to a shitty lifestyle. But, weight lifting has allowed me to use that addictive personality for a positive again. And, gear assists me in achieving improvement just as carb loading helped me the night before a race.

Also, and let’s be honest because I’m sure we all feel this way, when I get a touchdown, it feels like Christmas morning.

Pandateston's picture

Bro, short answer is Yes, I absolutely believe you can become addicted to steroids.

Not necessarily to the compounds themselves, but to what they represent.

The fullness.
The strength.
The confidence.
The attention.
The progress.

At some point, many guys stop chasing muscle and start chasing the feeling they had when they first realized they could become someone they never thought possible.

The danger is when “just one more cycle” becomes the answer to every problem.

Not lean enough? More gear.
Not big enough? More gear.
Not happy enough? More gear.

That’s where things can get ugly.

The guys who last in this game are usually the ones who understand that PEDs are a tool, not an identity.

If your physique disappeared tomorrow, you’re still a husband, father, friend, businessman, athlete, or whatever else gives your life meaning.

When your entire self-worth is attached to your physique, that’s when the relationship with PEDs starts looking a lot like addiction.

On the other hand, here’s a question…

If someone eats whatever they want without tracking, never exercises unless they feel like it, never checks bloodwork, ignores blood pressure, lives under constant stress, gets progressively fatter, sicker, and more depressed… isn’t that also a form of addiction?

Maybe not to steroids, but to comfort, convenience, and instant dopamine.

What are the side effects of that lifestyle?

Just look around. Obesity, metabolic disease, anxiety, depression, poor health markers, and a declining quality of life are everywhere.

I don’t know… maybe there’s a misconception around this whole discussion.

That’s just my perspective on it. Curious to hear what the rest of you guys think.

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CLAPPER's picture

“ When your entire self-worth is attached to your physique, that’s when the relationship with PEDs starts looking a lot like addiction “

I really like this thank you

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TheIcon's picture

After doing Tren for the first time I can honestly say yea it can be addicting. You get a certain response and reaction from taking a certain compound and you brain suddenly is wired to feel the need for it.

CLAPPER's picture

It’s a different kind of “high”. One that’s more sustainable, yet can be pushed too far

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birdman77's picture

Bigorexia is not a joke. It’s just hard for some to recognize, because someone winning shows is ostensibly the epitome of health and discipline.

Ask yourself: if I miss training today because something comes up, will I be ok? If I don’t make my macros, will I be ok? Etc.

Bodhi's picture

I’ve thought about this a lot, and I think people confuse commitment with addiction.

If wanting to wake up every day, train hard, eat well, monitor my blood work, optimize my hormones, and be the strongest and healthiest version of myself is an addiction… then what do we call the opposite?

Because from where I’m standing, society has normalized obesity, laziness, metabolic disease, and physical decline to the point where they’re considered ordinary.

The new Harvard and Lancet research is a perfect example. Once they stopped relying on BMI alone and started looking at waist circumference and fat distribution, nearly 70% of American adults qualified as obese. Seventy percent.

Yet somehow I’m the one who’s supposed to question my behavior because I’d rather have abs than a beer belly?

I didn’t get into this because I wanted to destroy my health. I got into it because I wanted to build it. I wanted to be resilient. I wanted to be strong enough to throw my nephews in the air at 50, hike mountains at 60, ski at 70, and not need help getting off the toilet at 80.

People act like chasing excellence is pathological while accepting mediocrity is somehow virtuous.

Is there vanity involved? Sure. I like looking good. I’m not going to pretend otherwise.

But there’s also discipline. There’s consistency. There’s delayed gratification. There’s blood work, blood pressure monitoring, diet, cardio, sleep, supplements, and constantly asking whether what I’m doing today will let me enjoy life twenty or forty years from now.

Meanwhile, we live in a culture where someone can be 100 pounds overweight, eat themselves into Type 2 diabetes, require three blood pressure medications, a CPAP, and a mobility scooter before 60, and nobody is allowed to say a word because it might hurt their feelings.

That seems far more like an addiction to me.

Could someone become addicted to steroids? Absolutely. They can become addicted to chasing size or validation or the mirror. They can ignore warning signs and sacrifice everything for another five pounds of muscle.

But I’d argue the far more common addiction in modern society is comfort.

Comfort over discipline.

Convenience over effort.

Instant gratification over delayed reward.

The average American isn’t addicted to testosterone. They’re addicted to DoorDash, Netflix, sugar, alcohol, and sitting on the couch.

So if my “addiction” is wanting to be lean, capable, metabolically healthy, and physically resilient, I’m perfectly okay with that label.

CLAPPER's picture

I liked this thank you

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JohnnyHardGuy's picture

Good post as this is a valued discussion.
Began utilizing compounds specifically to maximize my health not the opposite.
Goals are to live the healthiest, most productive, longest life possible.
In this game it is all about the why and the how.
Everyone has different goals & different ways of accomplishing said goals.
If one is reflecting and cannot answer how to remain accountable or how to value health first, then I believe one should take a good long minute of self reflection.

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Min Diesel's picture

Steroids aren’t addictive but gains and vanity are. No one ever wants to be a weaker version if themselves ever again.

hard_gains's picture

I can see it from both sides. I got sober off of meth and alcohol like 6 years ago. Those 2 substances completely wrecked my life. Not so much legal troubles but with relationships and family. Lots of stupid decisions.

Gear is still a form of addiction in my book. We are chasing vanity. Looking in the mirror I see a very unsatisfying version of myself that I desperately try and change. But I can rationalize when I'm being careless with my health. Which is something I could never do with drugs and alcohol.

If you take drugs for cosmetic reasons instead of medical reasons there's definitely a little bit of an issue there. That's just my opinion. I'll always feel like an addict but I'm just more in control if that makes since.

Trinitykiller69's picture

Addiction usually goes hand in hand with negative consequences, so if you’re not suffering from those, I don’t think it’s accurate to call yourself an addict. There’s a difference between being addicted to something and being an addict or a slave to it. To me, an addict is someone whose life is controlled by it and who keeps going despite the damage it causes.
I say that from experience. I struggled with opiate addiction from 2005 to 2020, and during that time I accumulated about 12 years of prison sentences. My addiction didn’t just affect one part of my life—it shaped my decisions, my mindset, and the direction my life was heading. That’s what being a slave to something looked like for me.
Since getting sober and switching to juice, my life has changed dramatically. My thinking is clearer, I’m motivated, and I’m focused on becoming a bigger, better man than I was before. Looking back, the difference is obvious: when I was an addict, the addiction was running my life. Today, I’m the one in control.