+ 21 Paraphrama Testo C 250 Masto E 200 Jano Report
Was super excited to send my first sample out for testing kinda sucked they upped the price to $145 but it is what it is.
These were part of a promo and I told TR I wasn’t going to be running the Mast just yet but I would send it out to Jano if they were willing to send it so extremely greatful for that.
As seen in photos I drew 0.5ml of each and put it into a sterile file so when looking at the results you multiply by 2 that being said
PP Testo C 250- batch #XN XN311 - results - 215.72 mg/ml - 13.7% UNDERDOSED
Pp Masto E 200- batch # TGPA612 - results - 212 mg/ml - 6% OVERDOSED
Not the greatest result on the Test I really wasn’t expecting that tbh I wasn’t even going to send it in but glad I did but the Mast being over dosed is dope as fuck
(UPDATE)
So in full disclosure I added a pic of what ChatGPT said when I entered all the info shared here, this is my first time testing and it’s a learning curve obviously. Going forward I won’t be doing any of these mixed blends to save money cause it looks like it’s going to cost me more just to clarify. I do have the upmost trust in PP and TR so I’ll get to the bottom of it.
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Thanks for share
Thanks for testing and sharing it, bro.
Doing God’s work for the community !
Ty for sharing
Love to see these results coming up on the mast I'm currently running the same batch and it's doing everything as expected!
Thank you for testing!
Damn brother nice, thanks for testing for the community! The step by step is really over and above, that’s class right there. Huge kudos +1
Thanks for testing bro! Helps hundreds of people. I haven’t done this myself yet but I plan to do so! Para coming in hot like usual. Can’t have enough para.
Thanks for testing & posting bro.
I would tend to agree with many on this thread. Seems to me like the discrepancy in dosage result is more than likely caused by user error drawing the sample rather the compounds themselves.
Which is good to know for future testing. We live & learn.
A source overdosing expensive Mast E just to then underdose cheap test really doesn't pass the smell test.
Again thanks for posting as this type of convo helps everyone.
I agree and I have no reason to doubt TR and PP I was trying to just do the “right thing” and give back to the community. I guess unfortunate situations like these help us be better each time. We live we learn.
"A source overdosing expensive Mast E just to then underdose cheap test really doesn't pass the smell test."
Agree 100%
Mistakes can happen on both ends
Thankyou for adding that pic in the bottom explaining the effect of mis measuring even slightly.
not saying that you did, but it would be damn easy to do. I mean how many of us pull an extra line or two just to make sure when we are pinning? Plus the dead space in the needle etc etc.
In any event I'm thankful for your testing buddy.
Yeah and when you look at the pics I posted the one with the bubbles is the mast but I looks like I drew and extra line making that a true .5ml where the test has an air bubble but drawn to the .5ml line making it realistically .4ml so I really think it was operator error on my part. Lesson learned.
Thanks for testing brother! As @-Infidel- said, there’s definitely room for error when mixing compounds like this. Not a huge biggie as we’ve seen all the testing on PP and know we’re not getting some Vitamin E bullshit.
Easy to play captain hindsight but an insulin syringe might've been more accurate.
Yea I definitely am doing things differently going forward
There is too much room for error when you mix the two... For example, lets say you put in 0.6 of the Mast and 0.4 of the Test... you are gonna get skewed results like this. Im by no means saying you did that, or the gear is under/over dosed, Im simple saying the numbers are never gonna be perfect when mixing multiple compounds, and especially with the oils with higher concertation ie) 250/300/350 etc..
the larger the measured "error" = larger skewed results in concentration
I ain't no big brain guy, but seems easy to skew one way or another since it's mg/ml and mixing perfectly would be damn near impossible with a 3ml syringe. Also there's a bunch of air bubbles in one of the pics. Who knows. But @shredski thanks for the testing.
In any event, the MOST important thing to consider here is that it's my eroids birthday. Single file line for the spankings.
Also spanking don’t commence until a full 24hrs post 1 year anniversary
Yeah I had to go to ChatGPT to get me clarity and seems as though yall correct @-Infidel- seems like the example you gave would put the test doseage at exactly what was previously posted so instead of saving money I’m about to drop even more to ship out another sample lol
We all understand saving the money, but when users post the results, the readers have to already know the user error in this technique.
I by all means will continue mixing, but wont get all worked up unless are WAAAYYY off
And numbers really add up when you look at everything for what it is .4ml test c .5ml mast e would show an actual testing of 269 test c which was the original report from Analiza
Wait, are you getting the spankings or giving them? Either way I’m getting a little chubbed up now.
Gonna have to ask @Petecastiglione. He's in charge of the spanking.
This is exactly correct... the gear is probably dosed correctly, especially with the historical reference of past Jano testing. Everyone just needs to calm down hahaha
Let's just all work this out over a nice game of soggy waffle
soggy "blue" waffle... if you dont know what blue waffle is I highly recommend NOT googling it
I'm completely desensitized to the blue waffle. But soggy waffle is COMPLETELY different.
ohhhh well that sucks, thought I was on to something here... desentized to that huh? you are more fucked up than io originally realized
First of all thanks for posting.
Any chance the amount you pulled was off a bit and that accounts for the discrepancy? I’m only wondering because of the other tests on the same batch that came back different.
That said, recently some Para anavar came back underdosed even though there was a lab test on the same batch from earlier that came back fine. Maybe something is up with their batch numbers?
Not accusing just guessing.
I’m not sure where the discrepancy came from I reached out to Jano to try and figure out what might have happened told them what I was expecting it to come back at vs what was found and once I get a response I’ll go from there even if it means sending out the whole vial I pulled from
Thanks for sharing brother man, I have the same exact vials from team roids as you do. I’ll check my batch numbers when I get back home. Odd to see conflicting tests on the same thing from two different testing labs.
This lab test from Jano is incorrect
I’m not sure whether the error is on your end or theirs but the same batch (a full vial) was sent to another independent laboratory and their results shows the product was overdosed :
teamroids.to/images/labtests/testo-c-250-para-pharma-68163df455b50.png
also the MASTO E 200 is overdosed and the raw material for masto e is much more expensive than testo c so it would make no sense for the manufacturer to underdose the Testo C 250, therefor I doubt this lab testing and will say its incorrect.
I know Jano say a minimum of 0.5ml for testing but In future I will recommend you to send the entire vial to avoid similar errors.
teamroids.to/images/labtests/testo-c-250-para-pharma-68163df455b50.png
which shows it was overdosed : 269mg/ml
A full vial is completely unnecessary
If Jano makes an error and needs to run the test again, will 0.5 ml be enough for a second test or does he need an additional 0.5 ml? I’m not a lab expert but I will still recommend to send a full vial to make sure everything was done correctly by both part.
I drew 0.5ml of each so a total of 1ml was sent
hi mate,
my hopes was to save $ by putting 2 compounds into the same vials - did janoshik recommend that?
You know we run these promotions so people can use the gear and share honest feedback blood test/ lab test/reviews.
We’re not offering store credit in exchange for reviews. we provide promos solely for products feedbacks so you didn’t do anything wrong by posting it.
It is just odd though the other lab test show the sample was overdosed same batch number.
therefore I recommended to send a full vial to make sure everything was done correctly by both part.
If Jano says a minimum of 0.5ml why send more? Not to mention a full 10ml vial. You’re taking a weird stance on this.
It’s no secret we see variations in testing between Analiza and Jano on the same batches. It’s also no secret we see variations on multiple tests of the same batches from the same lab.
I asked a question there is nothing weird about that just relax make some yoga no need to try to make a big show about a simple question which was:
If Jano makes an error and needs to run the test again, will 0.5 ml be enough for a second test or does he need an additional 0.5 ml?
There is no show being made. The only one worked up here is you with your bold statement that “This lab test from Jano is incorrect”. Then you go on to say you’re not a lab expert. Which is it?
I think you are the one getting worked up by that breaking bad statement Mr. walter white Heisenberg.
When doing a multiple test like so I would always recommend sending 1ml per compound So for this instance a vial with 2ml would be sufficient if needing retesting. The compound will be spun on a machine before the drawing of the compound so the oil even if it’s different compounds will be fully integrated so it’ll test properly. But regardless testing looks good
If we send in a vial filled with 3 different compounds do we save money or would it cost the same to send in 3 vials? I'm going to have some stuff tested in the future.
3 vials would be 3 separate tests my hopes was to save $ by putting 2 compounds into the same vials with that being said I’m going to try Analiza next time because it’s half the price
Thanks for sharing!
Any chance you can post the batch #'s on both compounds? Thanks for sharing results.
Just added it to the post also they’re visible I. The last photo, when I first uploaded the post those pics didn’t load.
Just checked, I have same batch of Test C. Regardless, will take 215mg. No biggy, just have to make dosing adjustments.
That’s how I feel as well. Can deal with slightly underdosed test, as long as you know the delta. It’s cheap enough and readily available so no biggie. Spicy Mast is really what makes my pants tight though!!