posted Tue, 04/21/2026 - 05:44
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-5 Self Calibration YOLO Cycle
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
-5'9, 170lbs, 13%, 25yo
-Training 4-6x a week since sophomore year of high school
-First cycle
-Aesthetics>all else
-Favoring fun over risk-to-return ratios
-12-16 weeks (playing by ear and bloodwork) then plan to cruise on 250
GOALS-
Peak physique for summer, 9-10% at as much bodyweight I can hold (175-180lbs ballpark?)
Learn, make mistakes, have a good experience above all else to look back on.
| Week/Product | Testosterone Enanthate | HCG | Tren |
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| 1 | 500mg | 5,000IU | |
| 2 | 500mg | 5,000IU | |
| 3 | 500mg | 5,000IU | 140mg |
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Do you need to kill someone to know murder is bad? that is your logic at the tail end of this message. worthwhile gains is a very subjective term here being used loosely as well.
Whats wrong with the 140mg a week? Im injecting 75mg a week now and loving it.
I'm just trying to test the waters with the lower doses right now. Lots of content and convincing readings on the lesser-androgenic sides with moderate amounts of tren.
If you are going to wreck liver enzymes why not take enough that it's worth it? 75mg a week you will be needing to do a very long cycle of it to show anything. Blast that shit at least 200mg a week for 6 weeks and then be done with it.
I think that a lot of these guys running such low doses of Tren kid themselves that its producing huge gains simply because they are happy to think they are able to tolerate it - tolerating Trenbolone is anything from 350mg upwards per week. 200mg per week isn't 'being able to run tren whilst getting zero sides' because that dose doesn't produce side effects.
I've heard of plenty of guys running much higher doses of 19-nors than their test (base), specifically tren. Supposedly lowers sides or mitigates health problems to a degree. Can't speak directly to it cause I've never run tren, but I do know it's a thing. @thelcon are you running tren/deca? Or just an extremely light cruise?
Yes some guys do run more Tren than test because they claim that way it mobilizes in the body, I personally think they are retarded. But the issue here is these guys are running a very low dose so 75mg a week, why? I do not see any point in putting a toxin in your body longer than you have to.
Oh fuck I read all that backwards. Thought it was higher tren than test.
Disregard everything I just said. I'm retarded.
Running Sust around 375mg and Tren 75mg a week.
Thought about throwing in DHB but since I haven't done Tren before I didn't want to complicate things. So far its been the complete opposite for me from my first run with NPP. Even after running a few NPP cycles now I still have a bit of trouble with mental sides. Tren I have none of that so far but still feel I have all the strength increases and body recomp. If anything Im more mellow on the tren vs NPP.
Npp made me mad as fuck. Gonna run it again with lots of mast and see if it's better. Lol
On npp now and it does make me mad also
That's what I'm on now. Sust, NPP and Mast P. This is actually week one. Ran this cycle tons of times and fuckin love the synergy between the compounds.
If it is working go for it man, I am just having a hard time seeing the point. I would be interested in your blood work at 75mg a week just to see if it is still affecting your enzymes. I dont think DHB does anything to you mentally anyway it doesn't with me and I am currently on Tren and DHB, I am using the rest of my Tren vial up so like another week or so.
Blood work is scheduled for 11pm Next monday April 27th
So we shall see.
Correct DHB didn't do anything mentally to me. I just can't handle the guaiacol in most of it past 6-8 weeks.
And I didn't want to complicate things. I prefer 2 compounds. 3 once in awhile. Like I did Sust, DHB, NPP and that was great until the guaiacol caught up to me.
I also think you are seeing more and more data come out on lower dose Tren. Just because everyone has blasted it doesn't mean thats the way. We see a huge difference in just Test dosages now adays compared to 15 years ago. People are looking at EQ differently now adays. Things change. Im open to it.
If it's working for you and your satisfied with your progress then more power to you brother!