posted Tue, 03/17/2026 - 06:40
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+ 1 Ultima order received (can’t say Im as enthusiastic as I would have been months ago) what are your guys thoughts on these batch numbers, colors of oil, etc….?
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4 - Ultima-Tren (10 ml x 100 mg/ml) - Ultima Pharmaceuticals ( no:MT086024 )
4 - Ultima-Bold (10 ml x 250 mg/ml) - Ultima Pharmaceuticals ( no:MT086040 )
5 - Ultima-Cyp (10 ml x 250 mg/ml) - Ultima Pharmaceuticals ( no:MT086029 )
4 - Ultima-Deca 250 (10 ml x 250 mg/ml) - Ultima Pharmaceuticals ( no:MT086021 )
All oils were manufactured Feb 2026
I’d appreciate any info u guys might have on these batch numbers, good, bad, thank you
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Did we ever find out if this batch MT086029 is bunk?
Hi brother,
I checked all batch numbers and asked producer to check with photos so please keep following PM with me then.
PMRoids.
I wouldn’t pin it until it’s tested. They seem to be in shambles right now and sending out countless untested products. Even osgear posted falsified tests last week and immediately took them down. Someone had a play around with photoshop and if they are posting fake tests the gear is definitely fake.
Intrested to see how that deca works out for you as i can say the 500 is yet to impress me after a few weeks
I think it’s closer to manufacture date then batch number at this point.
As far as I can tell these were prior to the incident and they aren't on the list that I have compiled of batch numbers that have been proven to be bunk. I have been collecting a list of all ultima and beligas batches that were proven bad and ones that have verified as good with testing. And none of these numbers for any of these products are on the list of bunk stuff. I guarantee you that Tren and Deca is fine. The only two I would even worry about is the Test and the Bold. And not even necessarily worry I would just question those two. I have MT08569 for test cyp and MT08589 for the Bold on my list and it is verified as gtg. These probably would have been batches made around the same time. But I just saw the MFG dates and they say Feb 2026? If that's the case then they are definitely new batches and I would imagine are absolutely fine. Can you scratch and post one of the verify numbers for the cyp?
I admire what you are doing but the batch numbers don't mean shit anymore because these idiots mixed batch numbers. So a batch number may have some good testing and bad testing for the same damn number.
Will they ever understand . I’m losing my mind with references to batch numbers
These were all manufactured in Feb 2026….isnt that right around and after all the bad batches started being exposed? Yes u are right about the bold. Because I have a bold from early 2025 and the oil is very tinted. This bold is crystal clear….
Yes but all of the bad batches were made from the raws over last summer all of the verified bad batches had MFG dates of june- oct 2025. I would imagine that these were made with their most recent raws which they said were fine. I mean really the only way to know for sure is to send them in. But Just by looking at the tren and the deca they look like they should and as far as I know it was only testosterone raws that were shit. And yeah I have had boldenone that was pretty clear before as well from a verified source that everyone knows puts out legit gear. So I mean color can be affected by so many things. But yeah that's also why I said the deca and tren for sure look fine, the others I would wanna verify for sure. Really getting a sample out and testing it is the only way to know for sure. I would be willing to bet I could get ultima to pay to have those shipped out and tested I have talked to one of their reps via email and they have assured me they will do whatever they need to, to prove that the stuff they are putting out is fine now. But it is totally up to you, that's your body you know.. I mean granted the worst thing there was vitamin e which isn't gonna hurt you, BA and BB are both solvents used by every lab, so I mean it's not anything that would really physically harm you. I get being skeptical and everyone is justified in that for sure. I wish I knew how to do analytical testing. If I was Jano or someone I would be offering to test any batches in question for free just to verify and protect people from using fake shit.
Thank you for your feedback bro, appreciate u
Of course, I just want to make sure everyone has all the info and can make informed decisions without all the noise or people who are like rah rah i hate ultima, boycott them, everything is garbage. Cause that just isn't true, some of these guys haven't even been in the game long enough to know how long ultima has been around or been a legit source for. People's safety and their ability to make informed decisions that are based on facts and not opinions is what I care about the most.
The batch numbers mean nothing bro. That has already been established. This labs gear is clearly not safe right now. They've had issues in the past numerous times as well. It's become apparent that they source raws from the cheapest places they can and sometimes they are great....sometimes not so great. Regardless, to put out gear from random suppliers without testing it first is a massive red flag from a company the size of Ultima. They clearly have the cash flow to do testing, but are more worried about completing orders than making sure what they're putting out is safe.
I don't disagree with you on that, their first priority should always be safety before making sure orders get filled. I agree 100% and yeah that has only been a recent thing though up until now the batch numbers have mattered and have matched up to what is in the vials and they have always had legit stuff over the years. This happened over the summer where raws were super scarce and all the labs were struggling to find any, they trusted the word of a supplier they have used for years and didn't question it because they have never had problems with them before and been legit which I can get, you get comfortable and complacency happens. But this has fucked them and they know it, I don't for a second think they did this on purpose, I think they fucked up and are paying heavily for that with loss of business. But they also know how often people across ALL of these forums send products in for testing all the time, so they wouldn't risk a business they have built up for 15 years just to let a few bad batches out. They definitely fucked up for sure, peoples safety should always be priority number one, even if this is a black market and underground labs. But it does happen. I am hoping that they follow through on what they told me they will be doing by being completely open on their end from now on, testing every raw and every finished batch and even some throughout the middle of the batches to ensure quality. But we will see!
Ultima was created 20 years ago and for a long time they were a great company. However, over the past 4 years they have been up and down here and there. Never to this extent, but I have had products of theirs in the past that had the same issue. Batches with the same numbers and different colored oils. I had their Sustanon a while back and 2 were mostly clear, but the other 3 were dark brown and had so much oil leaking from them that it bled thru the boxes. The situation this time is far worse. I truly hope they learn from this and get a much more superior level of oversight as far as quality control moving forward. Even if that means slower shipping or products out of stock more often. Safety is always the most important thing especially when it comes to injectables. I ran Ultima for 2 years off and on about 10 years ago and it was fantastic. That's the Ultima we need back. However, I am also someone who has to have trust in the company they go with so unfortunately due to the severity of this situation and the fact there are products affected that are not difficult to aquire the way Test is I will never be using this brand again. I truly don't see any point whatsoever in taking that risk ever again when there are many brands out there still going strong for nearly as long as Ultima has been around like Dragon, Geneza and Sciroxx. Those will forever be my top 3 because I have never had a bad run on any of those in nearly 18 years of cycling. I've worked far to hard on my physique and far too hard for my finances to ever take that chance.
We have to remember.....the Test became very difficult to aquire, but these issues are not limited to just the Test and some of the compounds that are bad right now are still very easy to get. This tells me it's an inside issue with the company itself and not just the scarcity of product.
Yeah I know how long ultima has been around, longer than 15, that's just how long I have known about them and been able to vouch for their stuff, and I fully agree with what you're saying. We definitely need the Ultima back that has been great all these years, and yes there has been a few quality issues but yes nothing like this. And I am hoping for the same thing, apparently this new protocol will have complete transparency and double testing, so we will see. It's going to be an uphill battle for them for sure, but I would love to see the Ultima back that I started on. And yeah sciroxx is great as well they have been around about the same amount of time and have seniority in the game for sure, Dragon has always been great as well. When Naps was the go to for sourcing years back Dragon was ALWAYS something they had. Even when they only carried a few brands. Ultima has the ability to be great again, and to make Nakon and Beligas great right along side it. It's just gonna take some work and internally they need to find out what is going on, I don't know if they hired someone new to oversee things or what the deal is but they need to be fired if so. And yeah the thing I think at least what I was told was they used the same source they have had a good relationship with for over 5 years, and things have always been good, but they got a ton of their raws including oxandrolone etc, from them during the draught and ALL of the shit ended up not being good and that's why we are now seeing more and more bad products showing up, but again they took them at their word as most of us would do after building repertoire for that long, and it fucked them. So they terminated using that company for sourcing and apparently have been extremely strict in sourcing their new stuff. But only time will tell..
According to the post Ultima made on their website they got the recent raws from a random supplier that they had zero reputation with and did not test them before putting them out to everyone. This is what I was saying and whoever made that ignorant decision needs to be fired because it affected thousands of people. Getting raws from someone new and not testing a thing is foul. However, I do not believe for 2 seconds they got any raws because if they were in the brewing game they would have EASILY been able to tell the difference between Test E and C compared to Vitamin E because for one Test E and C are nothing alike in raw form. This means they got finished oils from a random supplier and did not test them which is a major foul. Therefore the statement of getting incorrect raws would be a direct lie which makes me trust them even less.
I talked to them via private Email directly through the site on multiple occasions, and their messages from both people I talked to said it was a trusted supplier they had a good relationship with which is why they didn't question the COA's that were provided to them. They figured they were good just like they have been time and time again. I agree whoever was the person overseeing this warehouse when this happened from manufacturing, to quality assurance, to shipping, needs to be held accountable. Oh I know Test E has a very distinct piney almost fruity smell to it, I know the smell of the raws very well haha. So that part kind of boggles my mind too that whoever was bottling should have been able to notice it didn't smell right, someone fucked the pooch on that big time, and just ignored it.
This is the direct statement from the Ultima website.
"Only these two compounds were supplied by this specific factory and no other products are affected! The issue was already solved so the new batches are tested and excellent."
So if they told you oxandrolone and what not had been supplied too, that directly says they are lying to you and us and everyone else based off their own statement.
If you go to Eroids home screen at the top you can click on it. This statement has been altered as well because originally it was longer going into a little more detail about using a random company in a pinch. So they are giving people different stories brother. I am not saying any of this to be a dick to you, honestly. I admire what your doing, but want to make sure you have all the facts straight because they are telling different people different things. Various statements made to various people by the company themself is again in itself, not trustworthy which is why I say they are lying about the whole situation because clearly those are not the only 2 products/batches affected. This is why I can never trust them moving forward. You need to understand that these people do not love and have respect for you the way we do them. They don't care at the end of the day as long as they are banking off it. Sales are the only thing they care about and it is clear because of that statement. "NO OTHER PRODUCTS ARE AFFECTED". Clearly that is far from the truth and to date they have still not updated the statement other than making it shorter. They had a great run. Unfortunately that run has ended horribly.
I have seen those posts as well and I have read the different stories and updates from different people and the changes ultima made on their own site explaining it all. Someone jumped the gun I think on that post because the two people I have talked to who aren't just bottom level employees said that it was specifically all the raws that they got from that company after further testing found out that they were bad too. At first they only owned up to the ones that people had found so far. And I know they don't lol, they are a business their main goal is to make money as everyone does. It's a fuckin shark pool out there, I know that none of these companies are gonna care about me and honestly it's not that I care a lot about them, it's more just that I know for a fact how long they have put out good stuff, the quality of that stuff, and until now I personally have never once had an issues with their stuff. So to me it's more just the longevity that they have been good and supplied quality shit. Shit if I though they cared about me i'd be asking for some kick backs for standing up for them hahah. But just like you I want everyone to make informed decisions and go off of the facts and not other peoples personal opinions or whether or not someone else trusts them or not. I do this and gather all this data as much for me as I do everyone else, it helps to get the truth as well as helps me stay informed. And yeah, I don't think they are gonna go under at all. They are too big they might suffer for a bit but once everything checks out people will go back, some wont but some will. And no I know you're not trying to be a dick, I love good dialogue bro, I love hearing everyone's opinions and point of view. I take everything in that people say and I don't blow anyone off, I just do my own homework and try to figure out the most accurate versions of the truth based off facts and data.
Batch numbers don't mean anything now because the idiots put different batch numbers in pre printed batch number boxes. It's all a huge mess. All of those should be replaced, good sources stopped selling Ultima altogether.
Ima have to agree with u on that bro….. Like how the hell am I supposed to trust any of this crap??
I dont trust them at all and never will. I have 5 vials of Test C I bought before all this went down and its currently being tested by Jano.. Otherwise to the trash it goes if it is bad.
Good choice