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+ 50 More bad news: Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH Janoshik Tests

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TLDR: Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH both came back from Janoshik at zero. A further GCMS test of the test cyp revealed it to be MCT Oil and Vitamin E. Osgear was prompt and good to deal with in getting a refund. Also had prior experience with underdosed Ultima HGH last year. All test results and further details below.

  1. Beligas Test Cyp 200 mg/ml; Exp: 11/30, Lot: C942002
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106138-Cypo_1_QJTDWCJZ2TM6
    b. https://janoshik.com/tests/111080-Cypo_1_7XWSTMCB9UNP
  2. Beligas Test Cyp 200 mg/ml; Exp: 11/30, Lot: C942002 (2nd Vial)
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106139-Cypo_2_DASF3EJEIPUG
  3. Ultima HGH: 10 iu/vial; Mfg: 7/25, Exp: 7/30, Batch: S-TP80315
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106141-HGH_Somatropin_191AA_DJ167V6G17VJ

I wanted to add some more info to the conversation on here about the Ultima results people are seeing. In December I ordered Beligas Test Cyp and Beligas HGH from Osgear. When the order arrived I actually received Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH. I complained to Osgear because for the HGH I specifically ordered Beligas because last fall I received an underdosed batch of Ultima HGH (tested at 6.84 iu, labeled 10 iu, see results below). Osgear responded saying that due to supply of Beligas HGH being out of stock the shipping department replaced my Beligas with Ultima HGH. They said the batch I had last fall was removed and the new batch was tested by the manufacturer so I could use it with full confidence. They also said that ultima and beligas are manufactured in the same factory so there is no difference in quality between the two.

Obviously, things changed when I got the results from Janoshik and it is clear that ultima is not testing their end product. Osgear was very responsive to me providing this testing but it was also right around the time things were starting to heat up around the Ultima test raws. I specifically asked for a refund instead of store credit and they provided a full refund for the entire purchase, I believe this came from the manufacturers. They also provided in store credit for my Janoshik testing costs, which I appreciate and makes me more likely to do more testing in the future.

I have seen some posts from them assuring people that ultima test c and test e are the only products affected. I didn’t care for that since I had already sent them my ultima HGH results showing 0 iu. I can understand they don’t want a panic and they have a business to run, but overall I don’t love the experience with Ultima, Beligas, or Osgear. Again, to be fair they did make everything right with no pushback.

Fall 2025 Order

In September of last year I ordered some HGH, Clenbuterol, and Test Cyp, all from Ultima, through Osgear. They all came back underdosed. The test and clen were not too bad but the HGH was way under. Osgear gave me full credit for the HGH and partial credit for the clen and test since they were still usable. At that time I was pleased with that outcome and willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Here are those results:
1. Ultima Test Cyp 250mg/ml; Batch: MTO11551
a. 223.52 mg/ml & 226.53 mg/ml
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81959-UltimaCyp_250_9SV3M9NV75XI
c. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/88198-aas_1_KTDKMNP5PHM3
i. Same vial tested, second sample was blind to Janoshik
2. Ultima HGH 10 iu vials: Batch: S-TP81315
a. 6.84 iu, 90% purity
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81961-UltimaHGH_6WWPJJ7KWZEY
3. Ultima Clenbuterol 40 mcg pills, batch: MTB70778
a. 31.55 mcg
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81960-UltimaClen_JC6321LDPE43

HGH Testing

Also, a note on HGH. It is expensive to test. If you want to do dimer and purity in addition to the iu/mg amount it costs $420 ($20 more if you want the raw data) plus you have to burn a full vial of whatever you’re testing. I think this leads to it being tested less than other products. I suspect that is why I haven’t seen anyone else posting about fake HGH, it just doesn’t get tested that much, and people probably notice the difference less when using it when it is fake.

Janoshik

I have been very pleased with my experience with Janoshik testing. The new website is great and user friendly. I have done some testing where I listed the manufacturer and some blind. Specifically with the Ultima Test Cyp, one sample I listed the manufacturer and batch and I also sent in another blind sample from the same vial and the results were very, very close.

The notes from my fake HGH test said they actually tested that vial twice and I really appreciated that. I also liked that they noted that for the fake testosterone GCMS that they found the oils and vitamin E consistent with other fake products they were seeing. That kind of insight was helpful. They were also the ones who offered the GCMS testing after the test cyp resulted at zero and that was helpful to get to find out what was actually in there. I will not use any products without testing with them first.

Conclusion:

Overall, I will try some other stuff on Osgear, partially or maybe mostly because I have the credit. I am a strong maybe on Beligas but I don’t have any reason to try Ultima again. I had some prior beligas that tested well and I know Buttery had good results from them too. I do have some ultima primo that I just received but had ordered prior to this testing coming back. I’ll be testing that as well but again, I don’t see ordering ultima again.

I have several different products from ZPHC that have all tested well on the results from our friend Buttery. I am going to order a few more things from them and test those and will post the results but I am more optimistic about that brand and that’s the direction I’m headed.

Finally, I haven't posted before, just been watching, reading, and learning for the most part. 'm relatively new to all of this. I just started last year but since I have all these results I wanted to share to help out. I have never done a promo with any brand and the only credit I've gotten was due to refunds for poor products.

Good luck, stay safe, and test your stuff.

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press1's picture

How do you know this out of curiosity - have you had other compounds tested?

TheOGof93's picture

The same shit happened to me with three bottles, and a pack of orals and I hit up the producer told them where I got it and sent them one of the bad batch numbers I checked on the site and not the others, they hit me back up and said it was legit but that hadnt updated the new batches on the verification list then the next day all of those bad numbers came back legit.

N.Carraway's picture

This is a great question. When I searched the code on beligas.org it showed up as authentic and said it was the first time it had been searched. When I searched on beligas.com it showed up as "product is not original". I don't know which website is the legitimate one. The .org one seemed a little more legit to me and the fact that it also said it was the first time searched seemed like a good sign. I also entered it again on the .org website and it again said it was authentic but then showed that it had been searched 2 times. Maybe someone else knows more about the actual Beligas site?

I added screenshots of those code searches so you don't just have to take my word for it.

TheOGof93's picture

Beligas.org is the authentic site. beligaspharma.to is now beligas.org and beligas.com is a fake site.

N.Carraway's picture

Thank you, that’s helpful.

WINNING3's picture

All those big companies are owned by the same people… Unless it is some kind of hoax, it looks like they’re exiting the premises

Osgear's picture

This is definitely very disappointing for us either and we have sent the test results to Ultima and Beligas at the moment we've got them from N.Carraway.

From Beligas we haven't got an answer yet and Ultima said that all their products will be tested by Janoshik asap.

We've decided to replace all the batches reported with issues, regardless the manufacturer. The situation is very frustrating for us either.

Gotem69's picture

Just send the belgias to @TheOGof93 he thinks that all this bad testing is rectified by sending a vial of bunk product for all the bunk products already received is more than acceptable.

Still don't think they should start doing a lot more testing from here on out? Fuckin moron.

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Bro i honestly thought they tested every batch. So the batch numbers are just for show.
Idk if they'll be worse or better from here on out. They're either gonna be really on top of their shit or disappear. If they stick around every batch gotta be tested and listed on their official sites and the source selling. They make a ton of money they gotta. It's the least they can do.

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Gotem69's picture

Ohh yeah they need to be held accountable now and not just replacing bunk gear that doesn't "rectify" the problem but some seem to think that's acceptable lmao

been ghost since your stupid comment wya @TheOGof93 you're gone like a fart in the wind!

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TheOGof93's picture

Ain't nobody been ghost apparently you can't read all the back and forths from earlier I just said I was done arguing with you twinks. Lol. It was a good time though. I have a life that doesn't include cuckin other dudes on the internet, so whenever you two ladies are done playing tummy sticks and seein who can deep throat who the farthest after, let me know. Maybe we can be online friends too..

Gotem69's picture

You ain't even got friends outside the internet im gold bro.

But id like to see what that physique looks like with all the knowledge you got bet money you won't post up pic and you deflect with some more bs

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Milfpounder's picture

Oh yea that stupid dumb shit started getting all defensive when I said beligas/ultima/Nakon all the same guys. Probably pharmacom as well.

Apparently they only made retards in 1993.

Gotem69's picture

Lmfao he's a shill and bad one at that.

People voicing stupid shit like that is what keeps sourcing conducting business as usually with no changes.

Who the hell doesn't want COA'S especially after multiple compounds and been proved to be bunk.

I mean I've met a bunch of drug addicts being in and out of recovery but this is something I've never seen before.

"hey man I know you sold me a bad batch but can I get one more hit to keep my mouth shut" type shit

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trennythingspossible's picture

Hate to see it, my hopes were having me hold on by a thread but here we are, now my options are test everything I have stockpiled or run them blindly, and hope for the best. Decisions decisions :,(

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BillyBear's picture

Nakon too.
This really sucks. This wouldn’t have been an issue for people if the sources who sell Ultima, Belgians, and Nakon were sending samples for testing.

Unfortunately, I don’t know if I can go back to trusting these sources. Especially when we have great domestic sources. They might cost a little more at times but I know what I’m getting.

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mrmanip's picture

Damnet.

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I am a beast's picture

This is really bad and sad. Imagine the thousands of our iron brothers who used their products and can not afford to test or trust these brands, and they are sold bunk or under dosed stuff. I trusted these brands too because the top sources carry them. I think all the sources should delist these brands ultima, nakon and belgias. I request the mods and admin to make the sources delist these brands.

PimpdaddyJ's picture

This is what I thought and said. Ultima doesn’t test their raws or their finished product. I’ll never buy their junk again either. Hopefully other companies will learn a lesson here and start testing their shit, if they aren’t already like they should. Otherwise these companies will rightfully go under

Piottimichael19's picture

Def fake. I have the batch number C846002 so I’m assuming that’s no good either. I been running it for the last couple weeks and my energy a strength have been HORRIBLE . I been skeptical this whole time then see this post and now I’m convinced.

Klunfky's picture

What about the Cypo-Test C 250? I know they carry 2 different mg/ml Test C’s. I have some Test C 250 from Beligas here, no I’m worried about that. I just don’t have the extra money to afford sending it off to Janoshik.. I wonder if OsGear will cover the cost of it

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IRONWarrior99's picture

No wonder why my test levels were in the 290’s…. Bunk ass shit! SMH

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Klunfky's picture

Time to hit up the tried and true small UGLS like Titans for some reliable shit asap and then place a larger order from the freak INTL to stock up on some Para

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Banjokid2020's picture

Exactly what I was thinking. The tried and true, smaller ugls about to get swamped.

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Jrihard89's picture

Dc tom is about to return

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Drexyl's picture

RP4U

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IRONWarrior99's picture

I remember those days

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Jrihard89's picture

RP4U wasn’t tom.

I’ll come out and say it. RP4U was GK. Guy on here I know personally and I talked. When I spoke to GK I asked about it and he said keep it DL. I can find emails from GK to prove

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Claudezilla's picture

Well wtf happened to GK his shit was always tested and fire

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press1's picture

NO SHIT - REALLY PAL???!!

Never tried either, but I always thought RP4U had a bad rep?

Jrihard89's picture

He had a bad batch or two with PIP but he was super good priced for good blood work. My blood work was always pretty good. It was the basic 4.5-5x so like 500mg I’m pretty sure once was 2400 for me. Which wasn’t awful back then. But then I used some more better stuff (Titan) and realized I respond better. his test E was $25 a pop. Prop was $20

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Banjokid2020's picture

So just quick searching. RP4U was an old source on here, then came back as GK?

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Drexyl's picture

Nah, RP4U never came back

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Drexyl's picture

Oh for sure, RP4U was an entity all his own lol

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Jrihard89's picture

I have a soft spot for RP4U. He asked me if I was prepping for a show based on the small amount off prep stuff I bought. I said yeah my first open show at 19. And I was super honest.

He told me not to run tren and take it easy but he will sponsor my prep cycle if I promise to not use tren or anything too toxic. He held his word and dude like 10 vials of prop, 10 vials of mast and some other stuff showed up free.

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Drexyl's picture

Yeah he tossed me a free couple vials of test because he felt my order “wasn’t enough”. Like I said when he was on it was great, exceptional even, but those bad batches were pretty rough.

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IRONWarrior99's picture

They were definitely rough, have a huge lump from
His tren on my right delt.

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Janefonda's picture

What was it again?."Gotcha Bro" !! Lol. Damn. Rise and fall. Happens all the time. Gotta definitely respect the few domestics.that have been on here 10 plus years with no BS.

Drexyl's picture

Lmao! Yes that was it! The thing with him was he was hit or miss. When it was on it was overdosed, but without bad pip, very strong stuff. When it was off? I have spots that are still tough to inject from the scar tissue underneath. I injected some oil one time that turned into a racquetball sized lump within 20 minutes, took weeks to go away. I was done after that. Had liquid dbol one time (oral) that only god knows the dosage, I don’t think RP4U even knew. My wife got mad because I swelled up so much, she has limits on what’s ok for the muscles, and I dropped to the floor more than once from indescribable charleyhorses in my hamstrings. Shit I’d get them in my neck muscles, chest and back broke out, it’s hard to guess but I’d think what was supposed to me a 30mg dose was well over 100mg.

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Janefonda's picture

His stuff was definitely good when he first arrived on scene. I ordered quite a few times from him in the early part. Life got in the way and never ordered over the last few years he was here when all the issues started up. Never ordered from Tom. Another who started out with a bang with good stuff then that soap opera that developed was like must watch eriods. Ive been on and off this site since they first hit the net and there has been some crazy funny shit over the years but that was absolutely something else with Mrs E added into the mix. It was like a train wreck you couldn't look away from.

Banjokid2020's picture

I remember that ahit show too. I purchased from him around that time. I did eventually get my stuff right before he pulled his exit. Canned all that shit, wasn't worth the risk. Probably do the same thing with the vials of Ultima test I have

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press1's picture

It's probably him producing the powders getting his own back LMAO

Jrihard89's picture

I imagine he has split personality disorder lol. When he’s that girl, she produces decent raws, then he tweaks out on himself and says fuck it let’s use vitamin E lol

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press1's picture

All this has got me wondering - Why use Vitamin E? Wouldn't Vitamin D of been better as high amounts of that always get the balls and endocrine system going, like when you spend the day in the Sun?