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+ 58 More bad news: Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH Janoshik Tests

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TLDR: Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH both came back from Janoshik at zero. A further GCMS test of the test cyp revealed it to be MCT Oil and Vitamin E. Osgear was prompt and good to deal with in getting a refund. Also had prior experience with underdosed Ultima HGH last year. All test results and further details below.

  1. Beligas Test Cyp 200 mg/ml; Exp: 11/30, Lot: C942002
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106138-Cypo_1_QJTDWCJZ2TM6
    b. https://janoshik.com/tests/111080-Cypo_1_7XWSTMCB9UNP
  2. Beligas Test Cyp 200 mg/ml; Exp: 11/30, Lot: C942002 (2nd Vial)
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106139-Cypo_2_DASF3EJEIPUG
  3. Ultima HGH: 10 iu/vial; Mfg: 7/25, Exp: 7/30, Batch: S-TP80315
    a. https://janoshik.com/tests/106141-HGH_Somatropin_191AA_DJ167V6G17VJ

I wanted to add some more info to the conversation on here about the Ultima results people are seeing. In December I ordered Beligas Test Cyp and Beligas HGH from Osgear. When the order arrived I actually received Beligas Test Cyp and Ultima HGH. I complained to Osgear because for the HGH I specifically ordered Beligas because last fall I received an underdosed batch of Ultima HGH (tested at 6.84 iu, labeled 10 iu, see results below). Osgear responded saying that due to supply of Beligas HGH being out of stock the shipping department replaced my Beligas with Ultima HGH. They said the batch I had last fall was removed and the new batch was tested by the manufacturer so I could use it with full confidence. They also said that ultima and beligas are manufactured in the same factory so there is no difference in quality between the two.

Obviously, things changed when I got the results from Janoshik and it is clear that ultima is not testing their end product. Osgear was very responsive to me providing this testing but it was also right around the time things were starting to heat up around the Ultima test raws. I specifically asked for a refund instead of store credit and they provided a full refund for the entire purchase, I believe this came from the manufacturers. They also provided in store credit for my Janoshik testing costs, which I appreciate and makes me more likely to do more testing in the future.

I have seen some posts from them assuring people that ultima test c and test e are the only products affected. I didn’t care for that since I had already sent them my ultima HGH results showing 0 iu. I can understand they don’t want a panic and they have a business to run, but overall I don’t love the experience with Ultima, Beligas, or Osgear. Again, to be fair they did make everything right with no pushback.

Fall 2025 Order

In September of last year I ordered some HGH, Clenbuterol, and Test Cyp, all from Ultima, through Osgear. They all came back underdosed. The test and clen were not too bad but the HGH was way under. Osgear gave me full credit for the HGH and partial credit for the clen and test since they were still usable. At that time I was pleased with that outcome and willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Here are those results:
1. Ultima Test Cyp 250mg/ml; Batch: MTO11551
a. 223.52 mg/ml & 226.53 mg/ml
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81959-UltimaCyp_250_9SV3M9NV75XI
c. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/88198-aas_1_KTDKMNP5PHM3
i. Same vial tested, second sample was blind to Janoshik
2. Ultima HGH 10 iu vials: Batch: S-TP81315
a. 6.84 iu, 90% purity
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81961-UltimaHGH_6WWPJJ7KWZEY
3. Ultima Clenbuterol 40 mcg pills, batch: MTB70778
a. 31.55 mcg
b. https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/81960-UltimaClen_JC6321LDPE43

HGH Testing

Also, a note on HGH. It is expensive to test. If you want to do dimer and purity in addition to the iu/mg amount it costs $420 ($20 more if you want the raw data) plus you have to burn a full vial of whatever you’re testing. I think this leads to it being tested less than other products. I suspect that is why I haven’t seen anyone else posting about fake HGH, it just doesn’t get tested that much, and people probably notice the difference less when using it when it is fake.

Janoshik

I have been very pleased with my experience with Janoshik testing. The new website is great and user friendly. I have done some testing where I listed the manufacturer and some blind. Specifically with the Ultima Test Cyp, one sample I listed the manufacturer and batch and I also sent in another blind sample from the same vial and the results were very, very close.

The notes from my fake HGH test said they actually tested that vial twice and I really appreciated that. I also liked that they noted that for the fake testosterone GCMS that they found the oils and vitamin E consistent with other fake products they were seeing. That kind of insight was helpful. They were also the ones who offered the GCMS testing after the test cyp resulted at zero and that was helpful to get to find out what was actually in there. I will not use any products without testing with them first.

Conclusion:

Overall, I will try some other stuff on Osgear, partially or maybe mostly because I have the credit. I am a strong maybe on Beligas but I don’t have any reason to try Ultima again. I had some prior beligas that tested well and I know Buttery had good results from them too. I do have some ultima primo that I just received but had ordered prior to this testing coming back. I’ll be testing that as well but again, I don’t see ordering ultima again.

I have several different products from ZPHC that have all tested well on the results from our friend Buttery. I am going to order a few more things from them and test those and will post the results but I am more optimistic about that brand and that’s the direction I’m headed.

Finally, I haven't posted before, just been watching, reading, and learning for the most part. 'm relatively new to all of this. I just started last year but since I have all these results I wanted to share to help out. I have never done a promo with any brand and the only credit I've gotten was due to refunds for poor products.

Good luck, stay safe, and test your stuff.

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BillyBear's picture

Nakon too.
This really sucks. This wouldn’t have been an issue for people if the sources who sell Ultima, Belgians, and Nakon were sending samples for testing.

Unfortunately, I don’t know if I can go back to trusting these sources. Especially when we have great domestic sources. They might cost a little more at times but I know what I’m getting.

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mrmanip's picture

Damnet.

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I am a beast's picture

This is really bad and sad. Imagine the thousands of our iron brothers who used their products and can not afford to test or trust these brands, and they are sold bunk or under dosed stuff. I trusted these brands too because the top sources carry them. I think all the sources should delist these brands ultima, nakon and belgias. I request the mods and admin to make the sources delist these brands.

PimpdaddyJ's picture

This is what I thought and said. Ultima doesn’t test their raws or their finished product. I’ll never buy their junk again either. Hopefully other companies will learn a lesson here and start testing their shit, if they aren’t already like they should. Otherwise these companies will rightfully go under

Piottimichael19's picture

Def fake. I have the batch number C846002 so I’m assuming that’s no good either. I been running it for the last couple weeks and my energy a strength have been HORRIBLE . I been skeptical this whole time then see this post and now I’m convinced.

Klunfky's picture

What about the Cypo-Test C 250? I know they carry 2 different mg/ml Test C’s. I have some Test C 250 from Beligas here, no I’m worried about that. I just don’t have the extra money to afford sending it off to Janoshik.. I wonder if OsGear will cover the cost of it

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IRONWarrior99's picture

No wonder why my test levels were in the 290’s…. Bunk ass shit! SMH

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Klunfky's picture

Time to hit up the tried and true small UGLS like Titans for some reliable shit asap and then place a larger order from the freak INTL to stock up on some Para

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Banjokid2020's picture

Exactly what I was thinking. The tried and true, smaller ugls about to get swamped.

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Drexyl's picture

RP4U

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IRONWarrior99's picture

I remember those days

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Claudezilla's picture

Well wtf happened to GK his shit was always tested and fire

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press1's picture

NO SHIT - REALLY PAL???!!

Never tried either, but I always thought RP4U had a bad rep?

Banjokid2020's picture

So just quick searching. RP4U was an old source on here, then came back as GK?

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Drexyl's picture

Nah, RP4U never came back

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Drexyl's picture

Oh for sure, RP4U was an entity all his own lol

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Drexyl's picture

Yeah he tossed me a free couple vials of test because he felt my order “wasn’t enough”. Like I said when he was on it was great, exceptional even, but those bad batches were pretty rough.

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IRONWarrior99's picture

They were definitely rough, have a huge lump from
His tren on my right delt.

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Janefonda's picture

What was it again?."Gotcha Bro" !! Lol. Damn. Rise and fall. Happens all the time. Gotta definitely respect the few domestics.that have been on here 10 plus years with no BS.

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Drexyl's picture

Lmao! Yes that was it! The thing with him was he was hit or miss. When it was on it was overdosed, but without bad pip, very strong stuff. When it was off? I have spots that are still tough to inject from the scar tissue underneath. I injected some oil one time that turned into a racquetball sized lump within 20 minutes, took weeks to go away. I was done after that. Had liquid dbol one time (oral) that only god knows the dosage, I don’t think RP4U even knew. My wife got mad because I swelled up so much, she has limits on what’s ok for the muscles, and I dropped to the floor more than once from indescribable charleyhorses in my hamstrings. Shit I’d get them in my neck muscles, chest and back broke out, it’s hard to guess but I’d think what was supposed to me a 30mg dose was well over 100mg.

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Janefonda's picture

His stuff was definitely good when he first arrived on scene. I ordered quite a few times from him in the early part. Life got in the way and never ordered over the last few years he was here when all the issues started up. Never ordered from Tom. Another who started out with a bang with good stuff then that soap opera that developed was like must watch eriods. Ive been on and off this site since they first hit the net and there has been some crazy funny shit over the years but that was absolutely something else with Mrs E added into the mix. It was like a train wreck you couldn't look away from.

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Banjokid2020's picture

I remember that ahit show too. I purchased from him around that time. I did eventually get my stuff right before he pulled his exit. Canned all that shit, wasn't worth the risk. Probably do the same thing with the vials of Ultima test I have

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press1's picture

It's probably him producing the powders getting his own back LMAO

press1's picture

All this has got me wondering - Why use Vitamin E? Wouldn't Vitamin D of been better as high amounts of that always get the balls and endocrine system going, like when you spend the day in the Sun?

Buttery's picture

I don’t know what Vit E does at high doses, but Vit D at high doses is toxic. It causes calcium deposits in arteries and increases plasma calcium levels to the point of cardiac arrhythmias among other issues at high doses

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thorny's picture

I think vitamin E is safe (non-toxic) up to 1g/day, so it would be really hard for someone to notice they were injecting that

Vitamin D, on the other hand, leads to some bad medical effects when you exceed 10,000 IU/day, which is about 250 micrograms per day. So at blast doses, that would get noticed...

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Banjokid2020's picture

Vitamin e, test e, all the same

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thorny's picture

Do we need to start questioning Pharmacom and Deus Medical (the other major "brands" sold by the top sources?)

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liverpool_96's picture

I've been using Deus weekly for the last 7 years with no issues. Hopefully not jinxed them.

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Growtherino's picture

I had a test on Pharmacom EQ come back pretty underdosed recently. It wasn’t completely bunk but they 100% don’t test their stuff either, so just as susceptible.

boldenone99's picture

I remember Pharmacom was always tested overdosed but it was 5 years ago so dont know what is going on now.

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thorny's picture

If I'm remembering correctly they recently had some TestE come back as underdosed, but within the 5% range that even pharma falls into.

I've never had problems with them (in terms of results) - but moving forward clearly it's the wild west now and all bets are off for all the major brands...

Sucks.

I know I'm not a major contributor here but I appreciate and enjoy everything about this community. I'd definitively be willing to chip in to Unc's idea of community-based random testing

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Mrtommorrow1987's picture

The EQ test he posted was 11% underdosed. Like 260mg instead of 300mg. Pretty shitty when you start talking that high of Mgs and it’s 40 mgs off the posted dose.

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Drexyl's picture

I’m not a fan of not getting what you pay for, but even the FDA and USP requires active compounds to be within 90-110% of what’s on the label. For UGL, I’d say 11% isn’t bad, especially with what we’re seeing recently.

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Growtherino's picture

I hear you, and understand where you’re coming from, but it’s this attitude that leads to the backslide we see currently. Ask yourself, what does an underage such as this represent behind the scenes? Are they intentionally skimping to save a couple bucks? Or is their quality control so poor that they can’t be bothered to test their raws and follow a simple formula to get it dosed correctly? I’d argue the latter. Follow that thread and what do we get down the line? Completely bunk batches because they are operating on blind trust instead of verifying what they are actually putting in a vial. So while on paper an 11% underage may seem acceptable to you, I would encourage you to think deeper on it and not hand wave it off as “close enough to being close enough”.

press1's picture

I would be EXTREMELY surprised if Deus were bad - totally different company to all this.

steroidmen's picture

I had a blank Testo and Arimidex from Deus. But before that, everything was fine with Deus. And recently I ordered Deus again and now I'm happy with the cypionate test; it's like it came straight from the factory, not from the basement.

Min Diesel's picture

“Pharma Grade”

Klunfky's picture

God dammit I was worried about this! I made a post literally saying I think these are all the same company and I bet their batches are bunk too!!! Spoke my theory into existence. And fuck me because I just bought beligas for the first time

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CLAPPER's picture

So it’s confirmed that Beligas, Ultima, and Nakon are all part of the same company.

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Oopfff... wow. And the fact the fall hgh was 90% and 6iu. This is why there's still the brain deads saying pharma is better. Alright i thought they were all retard. Lucky for me i get pharma grade hgh straight from factory. Lol

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Milfpounder's picture

Hmmm one of you is legit yoked and one isn't... I'm trying to figure out who the dipshit is...

I think you are. I'd like to watch @Mikeyt84LINY throw you thru a wall