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+ 24 Ultima pharmaceuticals needs to take responsibility!

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This isn’t a seller issue. The company itself delivered a product that doesn’t work. Because of this, I’m feeling flat, drained, and just generally like garbage—mentally and physically. Months of proper training, recovery, and energy completely wasted.

Ultima Pharmaceutical needs to step up and take responsibility for what they put on the market. Customers deserve transparency and products that actually do what they claim!

I was running 450mg Test and 500mg Primo per week for months, and all that Primo was wasted because the testosterone was fake…

Lesson learned the hard way test first, use second.

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russisua's picture

Like Crystal Pepsi...Clear and a little glycerin like consistency.

Osgear's picture

It's crystal clear, both the Test C and E.

babyfat's picture

Clear, very clear

Banjokid2020's picture

Thats what I was wondering and trying to figure out too. I'm sitting on the dark ones and haven't ran them yet. Was skeptical at first so I was just going to let time go by and see if anyone else chimed on that ran it. But now I'm beyond skeptical, even if these aren't in the batches they've admitted to to/caught yet

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BigDdaddy's picture

I wouldn't run that dark shit bro. It's possible that they heated it for too long which will turn it dark. When that happens it's still safe to use tho. However, that's just a possibility. It could be something foreign altogether and now considering the current issues I def would t chance it. This bullshit about golden test raws is just that.... BULLSHIT! Test E and C raws are white, like eggshell white, period. When Test E melts and then becomes a solid block it has a very very slight yellowish tint. However, there is no such thing as golden test raws. Only Tren has that color. EQ comes as a liquid and it's slightly yellow as well, but never Test.

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shortbuffguy's picture

All 4 vials I ordered of test c came back clear

Benny1818's picture

Hey pal. First one dark /golden. And reship came all clear bottles.

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Skinz75's picture

Clear and thin.

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Staven's picture

Crystal clear!!

scoobydoo's picture

The samples I've seen in Janos reports look like pure clear mct oil.

Skinnyboy63's picture

Yes sir

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frofrank's picture

Normal light, this was not that “golden” that went around.

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BigDdaddy's picture

For starters, how the hell do you mistake Vitamin E for Test E? Test E raw is a white powder that melts between your fingers and has a very distinct smell..... Their response seems absolutely ridiculous to me and not only that, but proves they do not test the finished batches which is alarming as well as dangerous.

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BigDdaddy's picture

Wow....no wonder they had the Buy 1 get 1. Shoulda known that was too good to be true for Ultima. That's some bullshit.....I ordered as well. The excitements def gone now knowing that I got bunk shit. OS needs to man up and make this right rather than doing a promo to quickly off it to honest people! The very fact he did a buy 1 get 1 promo tells me Ultima most likely did reach out to him and he ran it just long enough to get rid of the stock on that batch. Shady man.....I work too damn hard for my finances as I'm sure you all do!

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PimpdaddyJ's picture

Yes work too hard for the money but even worse is how hard I work eating prefect buying expensive ass food everyday and going to the gym everyday for 2 hours for months on end. To waste all that time and money with a 100 testosterone level would be maddening horse shit

BigDdaddy's picture

Facts bro....so sorry for your loss man!

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randomdude's picture

They run that promo at least once a month. It still costs about the same as when they run their other 30% off + buy 3 get 1 promo every month.

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Wildling's picture

Unfortunately many are too cheap to go with better sources instead of the Walmarts on here.

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Skinnyboy63's picture

It's not OS fault it is Ultima's fault read the top of the page

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BigDdaddy's picture

Oh I realize Ultima is responsible, but I can assure you they reached out to OS immediately upon finding out.

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roguemaster12's picture

thats insane, how they still is on market when have such a bad results dude

Skinnyboy63's picture

@ultima went ghost

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TheOGof93's picture

I would call the huge page on their website acknowledging what happened and accepting the blame, and giving a resolution on how they are going to fix it, an official response. I wouldn't call that "going dark" or "ghost"... They have made it more than clear that they fucked up and are going to fix it.

Storm Ayden's picture

Anybody know if their primo was legit. It was delivered by osgear.to instead of pharmacolom and beligas primobolan. I had both one of each to try them out since they were I stock.

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russisua's picture

Im pretty sure it is. Ive ran Ultima Primo and it was good. They blew it on the Test raws. Big time. Pretty sure tho nothing to do with other products.

Wildling's picture

Only one way to find out!

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Petecastiglione's picture

Eroids did the right thing with the banner. This is exactly why this is such a great site.

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Littleginger's picture

Agree

TheOGof93's picture

The banner says UP went dark and no official response though, I would say that the huge post right on their actual website addressing the entire issue is an official response? But maybe that's just me.. Though I am glad that they put things like this up but only after careful consideration and actual factual evidence.

Petecastiglione's picture

I think eroids admin want more of a response than that bs but yea they did address it to a degree that really didn’t help their cause

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TheOGof93's picture

I mean what else do they want to hear? They admitted to the fault and said they are going to fix it and took responsibility for not double testing a new supplier. I dk I mean Ultima has always had good products, and they haven't been a shithole company. I just think saying they went dark and haven't acknowledged it, isn't true. But I get what you're saying at the same time.

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TheOGof93's picture

That's what I thought, I wouldn't call that going dark. I would call that an official response and them saying they are going to make things right.

Osgear's picture

We are in contact with Ultima and they said that now there are no problems with the oils anymore. Those were batches produced in June 2025 (when there were no raws on the market and they have got some from a small factory), all the vials were sold already so all the vials are at the final users. This is why they acted a bit slow on this situation because they had no products in hand anymore.

Now the situation is different, they have raws from their trusted supplier, the raws are just great - tested - and will replace those OLD BATCHES! That's all. If you want to overthink this situation, go for it, but is already a thing of the past and can't be controlled anymore. The only option is replacement for those Test C and E vials. End of story.

They made it clear, no other products are in this situation. Why? Because only the Test C and E raws were not found and had to look elsewhere.

All the other products are just fine. There is no reason to lie or spread bullshit... nobody wants to play with the health of other humans so we take this very seriously. We've asked them and they said clearly... they've got the Test C and E raws from a different factory but just these two. They trusted the factory and didn't tested the final products because they wanted to provide fast Cyp and Enan - huge mistake. Now they have to deal with this situation.

Test n Chill's picture

Genuine question, why didnt OSgear put a banner up or inform anyone that purchased test from ultima over the past 6 months of the issue? I’m sitting on like 5 vials for my upcoming blast and just happened to log in to eroids for someting else.

Sorry if I missed a notification from yall - but it would have been super helpful to get ahead of this.

TheOGof93's picture

I think you're mistaking me for the other person lol, I am the one sticking up for Ultima and saying that they handled it and have been more than open about what happened and how they plan to fix it. I am the one who's agreeing with you lmao. So idk why it sounds like you're coming at me like I'm the one badmouthing them. I love ultima products and I get shit happens and they made a mistake but they owned it and are making it right so I support them. I have been on their side about this the whole time and in every one of my posts. I know they made a bad judgement call but they have admitted it and are fixing it. My post was aimed towards the post at the top from eroids saying they went dark, when they didn't and they openly admitted it and are handling the situation. I think saying they went dark paints an unfair picture because that's not true, they have officially responded about the situation. So I think you were misreading what I was saying or thought you were replying to someone else.

Osgear's picture

Totally agree with you. I was just adding some more info to what you've said.

TheOGof93's picture

Ahhh okay, it kinda came off like you were coming at me about talking badly about them or spreading shit on them. I was like..uhhh... I have had their back the whole time lol.

Asa's picture

For sure! @Ranger3252 was all over it last night getting the admin/mod attention on the matter for a possible banner. Props

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Benny1818's picture

Yes great ppl here.

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trennythingspossible's picture

Nakon yes but Beligas is a separate lab entirely. Doesn’t mean they can’t be using the same raws but Beligas is a stand alone. If you look at preservatives Beligas always has BB and BA while Ultima and Nakon do not. Also Beligas has always had a much tighter grip on their QA when it comes to true to label doses. Butter on here did a big deep dive with a lot of testing that shows this.

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TheOGof93's picture

For sure they make Nakon, not sure about Beligas cause their bottles and whole design is soooo different. But Ultima and nakon are definitely the same company. ALL of their pills are identical in color shape and weight. And their oils all test the exact same as well. So I would definitely be checking NAKON. you can match up batches from ultima and nakon tested around the same time on janoshik and see that their oils and orals test at the exact same levels and MG per bottle. Beligas doesn't match up on testing like those two do either though.

Benny1818's picture

Smart man!

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TheOGof93's picture

I definitely try to do my due diligence lol.

press1's picture

I think most of us realised this within the first few months of Nakon being released.

Milfpounder's picture

I'm 95% sure they make beligas as well. It would be fair to scrutinize all three