My evidence is razor thin, strictly banking off of the fact that if they were all manufactured together then the contents would all test the same, preservatives included. So hopefully it’s not wishful thinking but I’m open to the idea that they’re all manufactured together, just sure hope not because I am stocked with soooo much Beligas that would be terrible news. At the end of the day obviously we can’t trust the manufacturers clearly, and anything that isn’t a HPLC test is hearsay, so we all know what has to be done. It’s just unfortunate because so many people put trust in large brands and ignorance is not always bliss, but clearly as we’ve seen Ultima banks on not being called out and only admit fault when publicly shamed, and even then they keep getting caught with their pants down and simply update their “apology”. Luckily there’s so many avenues to go through for gear so at the end of the day just a loss for them, not necessarily always a loss for us. When brand name gets tarnished it’s hard to come back.

Ultima and Nakon orals are great and as far as I know none of the orals have been affected. I wouldn't be against still using their orals at all. Nakon Tren Ace is top notch too.

Racist against who?! Lol that's funny

I would say that more than rectifies the problem. I wouldn't be bitching about that... Good on you Osgear for going above and beyond to make things right. Some people you just can't make happy. You cant test every bottle of every product, that is just unrealistic, janoshik is literally a year backed up with testing. And ultima has always tested their products they just didn't this one time they used a new source in a pinch which yes, is a big fuck up. But they are more than making it right. And it shouldn't fall on OSgear to test every single product, it's the suppliers aka the company that puts out the products job to do that and then should supply verified test results to their vendors. You think a 3rd party vendor is gonna pay to test everything twice? You're smoked out bro. Ultima has always had good shit and 98% of their products you can match batch numbers to verified janoshik tests. I would be more than happy with what Osgear has done for you. This is a UGL market not a FDA pharmaceutical market so the testing standard are obviously not the same. Let's get real here. And trying to act like Osgear and others are out here peddling shit gear like they knew before hand the batches were bad? they didn't get this far and build their name by being shady or shitty. For one this doesn't fall on Osgear or any other vendor, it falls on Ultima and they have more than taken accountability and are fixing the problem. I think trying to bash a good companies name because you're butthurt over a mistake is wrong. EVERYONE makes mistakes, it's how they handle them that matters.. And again, they shouldn't be testing raws or finished oils the producer should be and then supplying the vendors with those verified results for each batch. That's not their responsibility. I think you and Ultima have done a great job given the circumstances to rectify the problem with a more than fair solution. You just are not going to make some people happy and honestly, you don't want customers like that anyways.

lol and I will use none of them i was honestly looking forward to kicking off my next cycle with it and I got plenty of other shit in my stash....

Since we are going about it this way would you like me to write a review regarding the recent "freebies"? Bc anyone would agree and see it fit not using compounds that sources are pushing out that aren't even testing as anabolics... yall aren't even testing raws or finished oils cmon bro..... DO BETTER!

Keep that beligas btw I'm good.

I hope the community request raw testing and finished oil testing on all compounds for the forceable future...