I’m waiting on MTO86061
They said the raw tests came back positive but who fucking knows with these guys man. I would say hold it until you know. But my guess is prob it’s garbage
I’m waiting on MTO86061
They said the raw tests came back positive but who fucking knows with these guys man. I would say hold it until you know. But my guess is prob it’s garbage
Just arrived, ultima test-e batch number MT009772 with expiration date of 6/14/2030. Also I have ultima test/EQ mix batch number MT532150 with expiration 2/27/2027. Would you just trash it?
The official statement added a batch of HGH as well without notifying anyone. I also have 2 vials of Sus, one is yellowish and the other clear, the yellowish one smells like gear smells and the clear one smells like plastic and stinky feet.
I plan on sending both out for testing, and both claim to be from the same batch.
I bet the batch numbers are as fake as their gear…
I don't know it's something like this to make me say I'll never buy that brand again. How did they notice that someone out them or they came out as transparent and announced it themselves. How do they know that other random lots of gear aren't shit either. I remember sometime ago I think there was talk of them being underdosed
As someone who has handled test E raws they 100% should've known the difference simply looking at it. At room temperature the powder basically melts and turns into a gel like substance. Test c i dont know but yea test e is easy to spot as a fake
Just received this response earlier from OS. How the hell does a big name company like Ultima not have a highly reputable supplier they can trust?!? Ultima dealing with suppliers that would do something like this is extremely alarming. I will absolutely NOT be using Ultima ever again! Vitamin E is NOTHING like Test. How the hell could they possibly have not noticed the difference? The very smell alone of Test E is unmistakable.
2026-02-28 09:24:33 By Angel
Hello, There is absolutely no need to worry, you are on the best hands in the industry. We'll make things right and replace all the batches that have quality concerns. Ultima informed us today that they have been scammed with fake documents and the factory provided Vitamin E for those batches with COA's of Test C and Test E. So inside the vials is MCT Oil and Vitamin E. The vials will be replaced and the new batches are currently under testing. Regarding the package, currently we've made an inquiry to the freight company and asked the exact status because there are many packages waiting to clear customs and hopefully this will happen in the coming days. We'll have to see what batch is being delivered and we'll act immediately. Thank you for your patience. Respectfully!
When was the last time anyone had lab results on an Ultima Test C or E come back meeting the label? If so what batch(es) and mfg date(s)?
Have other Ultima oils recently been tested to show meeting label claims?
Perhaps other brands Test C/E likewise impacted by the same unscrupulous suppliers?
I’d like to see some data points to restore confidence in the Ultima brand and show that although the impact on the community is widespread it’s root is truly a series isolated incidents that have gone unchecked until now.
@LaBahia2 i am a man and know when i owe an apology. I believe i was the first dickhead who rode you for posting reddit info on here but it looks like you have awoken an awareness that noone realized. Seems noone complained about the product until you posted this and everyone just assumed they just had something like long covid or something because everyone was silent. Again i apologize for jumping to conclusions, the one thing i preach against.
Thank you, I really appreciate you saying that. It takes a lot of integrity to circle back and apologize, and that means a lot.
I understand how easy it is to jump to conclusions online; tone and intent don’t always come through clearly. My only goal was to share information and hopefully help others make informed decisions.
@Pumped mad respect for you brother. Always respect a man who can do what you did. I hope it all gets sorted for everyone but it will take some time. I have a feeling this may only be the tip of the iceberg but we will see . Good thing is people will be more inclined to test . Be easy brother and again much respect
Well this will be interesting. Not just that I am waiting 40 days for my international shipping to arrive and I am in the middle of cycle and running out of test ..... Now I have 14 test cyps coming that might be bunk well truly let's stir the pot ... So idk when it's gonna come and when it comes it could be as good as my olive oil in kitchen and then I'm screwed. God help me
I wouldn't say they have gone dark? They posted an official response and resolution on their website. Granted this is a huge fuck up on their end. I feel like their whole huge page on the ultima website is an official response. No?
The batch MTO09779 was sold out. MTO09662 was still available at the US warehouse and MTO09879 they still had at the warehouse a few bottles, that's why they could check these two.
I think If they take responsibility, replace the bad batches that are out there now, and work on never letting it happen again. Then that’s respectable and shit happens at least they do the right thing here
No, this is beyond a small mistake. I’ve seen everything this environment has to offer and this is right up there in probably my top three of huge fuck ups to ever occur. This is just the tip of the iceberg with Ultima and possibly others that will be coming out in the near future. They don’t get a pass on this bud. They tried to get out ahead of it and made piss poor excuses. Things started to pile up very quickly and now there is no corrective action that would warrant anyone to trust them ever again. Let’s put this in a numbers perspective. Three bad batches of E and C. So that’s 5000 vials per batch so we’re looking at 15000k e and 15000k c out there. 30,000 vials is crazy. If a batch makes 5000k which I think is accurate but could be wrong. Either way it’s the death blow for them.
I actually really like how your flagged review still has more likes than a non flagged review. The paid actors here will never let anyone devalue the ones who pay them.
We've got the information from Ultima that inside the vials is MCT Oil, BA, BB and Vitamin E. So the factory that provided the raws practically scammed the manufacturer with a vitamin and provided a fake COA. There is NO RISK for you at all.
All the oils and batches are currently in testing process and this will delay the shipping of the pending orders. As we have already informed, the products will be replaced with new products that have the quality control pass.
However, Ultima admitted they did not test the final product so to say it's perfectly safe on top of the fact they are dealing with a shady supplier is not a statement you can honesty make.
cant OSGear and others that carry the Ultima brand ask them to provide a list of impacted product? if they know that they used a different source for the impacted batches why not release the list of batches made with that source instead of having the community get tests done that come back like this one and thennnn they say" oh yeah that was with bad supplier". it stands to reason that if they can give us feedback about the batch like that then they have a record for all the batches made with that bunk raw? or maybe i am asking to much? seems weird and gives me the impression that they are just gonna wait for a complaint or test that proves it before they respond on additional batches....
100% THANK you. I landed on this a few days ago. They say they tested....no....USERS tested it at Jankshik. They never tested the raws, finally fess up, then lie again saying only 2 batches affected, pin away, the lie is the said they tested them, no....we did. So their method is.....wait for users to complain, then wait for them to test it. When their test comes back bad, Ultima agrees....pulls it. Theyve done nothing but lodge excuses. No testing Ive seen.
COA's are produced by the manufacturer, I never look at them personally because I don't care what they say, I'll be the judge.
The only time I trust a suppliers word, is when they tell me their raws are bad, which does happen. Positive results can be faked by anyone so it's up to the community to do their own testing and don't just take a sources word on what they're giving you, regardless of how well they've produced in the past.
That being said, we don't test every batch of raws we receive. Normally we will test everything from a new supplier up front and then as we established a relationship, we test randomly. If we were to test every single batch, our shelves would be empty for weeks at a time (or months as they are now). This is why we rely on the community, even redditors, to keep us honest. If we fuck up unknowingly, we want/need to be caught in that mistake ASAP. I'm not going to crucify Ultima for their mistake, especially since they owned up to it like big boys. They likely had a relationship with a supplier who turned around and fucked them when things got tough, which sucks.
And before the rumor mills begin, I have no relation with ultima, never even spoke to them I have nothing to say for or against their actual products, I'm just speaking from a source POV.
Fair enough brother, but as I'm sure you know the consistency and smell of Test E raw is unmistakable. For a company who brews so much you would think they would notice the difference immediately on that one as I'm certain you would have. Not to mention Test C and Test E raws are very different in feel and consistency as well as the look itself. There is no way in my mind they could not have noticed that the E and C looked identical and therefore questionable. The only honest way for them not to have noticed is if they are purchasing finished oils in which case they should 1000% be testing each batch before sending it out the door.
Test E is one of the easier ones to identify by smell, feel and temperature.
If they are a chinese source or reseller, they are almost certainly buying premade. Either vialed and packaged or in liquid form. if they have the fancy packaging with boxes etc, i'd bet on premade, labeled, etc ready to go from the factory
The fact that they said this came from a separate supplier than their normal supplier tells me it didn't come boxed up and ready to sell because that random supplier doesn't normally do business with them. Therefore, it most likely came finished in large bottles that they then transferred to vials. If you want my honest opinion and this is gonna piss Ultima lovers off, but I truly believe they ran low on raws, but didn't want to stop production and take the chance of people going elsewhere and potentially losing customers so they tried to get one by knowing that some people would find out and they'd have to make some story up of how it happened and then reship to those who realized it was bunk all in the name of maintaining production. That's where I'm at because I do not believe what they're saying for a single second. They been in the game for decades. This was a decision made during hard times....one they knew they'd regret, but didn't feel they had a choice to maintain production. I've been in this game a long time like you brother. Seen a lot. It's a sad situation, but definitely one that tells me with certainty to avoid them entirely moving forward.
I’m waiting on MTO86061
They said the raw tests came back positive but who fucking knows with these guys man. I would say hold it until you know. But my guess is prob it’s garbage
I’m waiting on MTO86061
They said the raw tests came back positive but who fucking knows with these guys man. I would say hold it until you know. But my guess is prob it’s garbage
Just arrived, ultima test-e batch number MT009772 with expiration date of 6/14/2030. Also I have ultima test/EQ mix batch number MT532150 with expiration 2/27/2027. Would you just trash it?
Why the the official statement have only 2 batches listed when there is more?
The official statement added a batch of HGH as well without notifying anyone. I also have 2 vials of Sus, one is yellowish and the other clear, the yellowish one smells like gear smells and the clear one smells like plastic and stinky feet.
I plan on sending both out for testing, and both claim to be from the same batch.
I bet the batch numbers are as fake as their gear…
Batch numbers def dont matter, did u end up sending out?
Which ones ? Cuz I have no9772 do you know something about it
I don't know it's something like this to make me say I'll never buy that brand again. How did they notice that someone out them or they came out as transparent and announced it themselves. How do they know that other random lots of gear aren't shit either. I remember sometime ago I think there was talk of them being underdosed
As someone who has handled test E raws they 100% should've known the difference simply looking at it. At room temperature the powder basically melts and turns into a gel like substance. Test c i dont know but yea test e is easy to spot as a fake
Just received this response earlier from OS. How the hell does a big name company like Ultima not have a highly reputable supplier they can trust?!? Ultima dealing with suppliers that would do something like this is extremely alarming. I will absolutely NOT be using Ultima ever again! Vitamin E is NOTHING like Test. How the hell could they possibly have not noticed the difference? The very smell alone of Test E is unmistakable.
2026-02-28 09:24:33 By Angel
Hello, There is absolutely no need to worry, you are on the best hands in the industry. We'll make things right and replace all the batches that have quality concerns. Ultima informed us today that they have been scammed with fake documents and the factory provided Vitamin E for those batches with COA's of Test C and Test E. So inside the vials is MCT Oil and Vitamin E. The vials will be replaced and the new batches are currently under testing. Regarding the package, currently we've made an inquiry to the freight company and asked the exact status because there are many packages waiting to clear customs and hopefully this will happen in the coming days. We'll have to see what batch is being delivered and we'll act immediately. Thank you for your patience. Respectfully!
What’s everyone opinion on other brands made around that time? I have some test made 05/25 but different brand you think alot were hit with fake raws.
When was the last time anyone had lab results on an Ultima Test C or E come back meeting the label? If so what batch(es) and mfg date(s)?
Have other Ultima oils recently been tested to show meeting label claims?
Perhaps other brands Test C/E likewise impacted by the same unscrupulous suppliers?
I’d like to see some data points to restore confidence in the Ultima brand and show that although the impact on the community is widespread it’s root is truly a series isolated incidents that have gone unchecked until now.
@LaBahia2 i am a man and know when i owe an apology. I believe i was the first dickhead who rode you for posting reddit info on here but it looks like you have awoken an awareness that noone realized. Seems noone complained about the product until you posted this and everyone just assumed they just had something like long covid or something because everyone was silent. Again i apologize for jumping to conclusions, the one thing i preach against.
Thank you, I really appreciate you saying that. It takes a lot of integrity to circle back and apologize, and that means a lot.
I understand how easy it is to jump to conclusions online; tone and intent don’t always come through clearly. My only goal was to share information and hopefully help others make informed decisions.
No hard feelings at all.
@Pumped mad respect for you brother. Always respect a man who can do what you did. I hope it all gets sorted for everyone but it will take some time. I have a feeling this may only be the tip of the iceberg but we will see . Good thing is people will be more inclined to test . Be easy brother and again much respect
I respect you for that brother.
@Milfpounder said he’s not racist but is scared of black people cuz he’s so white
@Petecastiglione is only here because he takes hormones for his sex reassignment.
I started taking hormones because i was told thats what Michael Jackson used to get white. 10 years later and $10s if thousands later im still black.
Dkoon211I think Michael was using mt-2 that's a negative 2 just for clarification
LMFAO holy shit dude lol
You need to be hooked up to a Propofol tank every night pal for 8 hours too - all that White Milky solution is what gives you the colour change!
Some milk of amnesia lol
Midazolam is where the real funs at - someone should have told him that.
Nothing like a good memory wipe
Got any?
Well this will be interesting. Not just that I am waiting 40 days for my international shipping to arrive and I am in the middle of cycle and running out of test ..... Now I have 14 test cyps coming that might be bunk well truly let's stir the pot ... So idk when it's gonna come and when it comes it could be as good as my olive oil in kitchen and then I'm screwed. God help me
A new batch MT009779 is confirmed bunk. Ultima Pharmaceutical has gone dark - no official response.
They have included the batch in the statement: https://ultimapharmaceuticals.com/news/dear-ultima-lovers-out-there
I wouldn't say they have gone dark? They posted an official response and resolution on their website. Granted this is a huge fuck up on their end. I feel like their whole huge page on the ultima website is an official response. No?
Correct, they updated their official statement since. And I've updated the warning message.
Looks like they've updated their statement to include it, but why it wasn't originally included seems a bit malicious...
Pissing on my face and spitting on it at the same time?
The batch MTO09779 was sold out. MTO09662 was still available at the US warehouse and MTO09879 they still had at the warehouse a few bottles, that's why they could check these two.
You say it like that’s a big thing. You deserve a neg for devaluing my fetish. But I digress
Slut
I thought you liked that?
Sounds hot
I think If they take responsibility, replace the bad batches that are out there now, and work on never letting it happen again. Then that’s respectable and shit happens at least they do the right thing here
Ranger3252No, this is beyond a small mistake. I’ve seen everything this environment has to offer and this is right up there in probably my top three of huge fuck ups to ever occur. This is just the tip of the iceberg with Ultima and possibly others that will be coming out in the near future. They don’t get a pass on this bud. They tried to get out ahead of it and made piss poor excuses. Things started to pile up very quickly and now there is no corrective action that would warrant anyone to trust them ever again. Let’s put this in a numbers perspective. Three bad batches of E and C. So that’s 5000 vials per batch so we’re looking at 15000k e and 15000k c out there. 30,000 vials is crazy. If a batch makes 5000k which I think is accurate but could be wrong. Either way it’s the death blow for them.
Dkoon211I actually really like how your flagged review still has more likes than a non flagged review. The paid actors here will never let anyone devalue the ones who pay them.
Hello guys,
We've got the information from Ultima that inside the vials is MCT Oil, BA, BB and Vitamin E. So the factory that provided the raws practically scammed the manufacturer with a vitamin and provided a fake COA. There is NO RISK for you at all.
All the oils and batches are currently in testing process and this will delay the shipping of the pending orders. As we have already informed, the products will be replaced with new products that have the quality control pass.
Thank you.
However, Ultima admitted they did not test the final product so to say it's perfectly safe on top of the fact they are dealing with a shady supplier is not a statement you can honesty make.
cant OSGear and others that carry the Ultima brand ask them to provide a list of impacted product? if they know that they used a different source for the impacted batches why not release the list of batches made with that source instead of having the community get tests done that come back like this one and thennnn they say" oh yeah that was with bad supplier". it stands to reason that if they can give us feedback about the batch like that then they have a record for all the batches made with that bunk raw? or maybe i am asking to much? seems weird and gives me the impression that they are just gonna wait for a complaint or test that proves it before they respond on additional batches....
100% THANK you. I landed on this a few days ago. They say they tested....no....USERS tested it at Jankshik. They never tested the raws, finally fess up, then lie again saying only 2 batches affected, pin away, the lie is the said they tested them, no....we did. So their method is.....wait for users to complain, then wait for them to test it. When their test comes back bad, Ultima agrees....pulls it. Theyve done nothing but lodge excuses. No testing Ive seen.
except the BA and BB can cause sterile abscesses or granulomas, no risk at all? They're both irritants, they have risk.
Are the COAs results going to be posted or shared?
COA's are produced by the manufacturer, I never look at them personally because I don't care what they say, I'll be the judge.
The only time I trust a suppliers word, is when they tell me their raws are bad, which does happen. Positive results can be faked by anyone so it's up to the community to do their own testing and don't just take a sources word on what they're giving you, regardless of how well they've produced in the past.
That being said, we don't test every batch of raws we receive. Normally we will test everything from a new supplier up front and then as we established a relationship, we test randomly. If we were to test every single batch, our shelves would be empty for weeks at a time (or months as they are now). This is why we rely on the community, even redditors, to keep us honest. If we fuck up unknowingly, we want/need to be caught in that mistake ASAP. I'm not going to crucify Ultima for their mistake, especially since they owned up to it like big boys. They likely had a relationship with a supplier who turned around and fucked them when things got tough, which sucks.
And before the rumor mills begin, I have no relation with ultima, never even spoke to them I have nothing to say for or against their actual products, I'm just speaking from a source POV.
Dkoon211I appreciate this man. Yeah, I think you are right. You have changed my mind.
Fair enough brother, but as I'm sure you know the consistency and smell of Test E raw is unmistakable. For a company who brews so much you would think they would notice the difference immediately on that one as I'm certain you would have. Not to mention Test C and Test E raws are very different in feel and consistency as well as the look itself. There is no way in my mind they could not have noticed that the E and C looked identical and therefore questionable. The only honest way for them not to have noticed is if they are purchasing finished oils in which case they should 1000% be testing each batch before sending it out the door.
Test E is one of the easier ones to identify by smell, feel and temperature.
If they are a chinese source or reseller, they are almost certainly buying premade. Either vialed and packaged or in liquid form. if they have the fancy packaging with boxes etc, i'd bet on premade, labeled, etc ready to go from the factory
The fact that they said this came from a separate supplier than their normal supplier tells me it didn't come boxed up and ready to sell because that random supplier doesn't normally do business with them. Therefore, it most likely came finished in large bottles that they then transferred to vials. If you want my honest opinion and this is gonna piss Ultima lovers off, but I truly believe they ran low on raws, but didn't want to stop production and take the chance of people going elsewhere and potentially losing customers so they tried to get one by knowing that some people would find out and they'd have to make some story up of how it happened and then reship to those who realized it was bunk all in the name of maintaining production. That's where I'm at because I do not believe what they're saying for a single second. They been in the game for decades. This was a decision made during hard times....one they knew they'd regret, but didn't feel they had a choice to maintain production. I've been in this game a long time like you brother. Seen a lot. It's a sad situation, but definitely one that tells me with certainty to avoid them entirely moving forward.