-5 TRT for ongoing back, knee and shoulder, generalized ergo problems
Before we get into dosing I’d like to say that I have to do PT and make mobility a priority like yesterday. Minor herniations in my back around the typical L4/L5 region. Was healing fine until a new doctor ripped my back muscles and traumatized them during an injection. Needed to see a neurosurgeon to clear me to say it is more orthopedic specialized. My knee even before heavy use has always been agitated, my glutes and such need stretches, etc etc.
I’m not looking to cycle anytime soon and really want to stabilize. But also figure this is a great time to use deca. I’ve been shutdown for sometime and also would like to use HCG but also know that deca being a 19nor is a heavy shutdown. I’m a big fan of using Masteron as an estrogen controller but I’m not looking to breach a certain milligram dosage.
Right now this is what I feel
125mg - 200mg test cyp
75mg - 100mg deca durabolin
50mg - 100mg Masteron
500UI of HCG
2UI-3.3UI HGH
The option of replacing Masteron with primo or using Adex/Nolvadex is an obvious option to lower anabolics since I’m not trying to cycle and the deca is only for pain/healing. I do love Masteron but again I don’t want to breach a certain cycle dosage where as we can all see is pretty much already there!!
Also I’m looking to only dose once a week which would be Monday. However we all know that dosing twice a week is ideal for maintaining levels but I am not lookin to cycle!! Hence the choice of test cyp. Masteron Enanthate has a half life of 4-7 days so I’m thinking that once it’s saturated in my system that dosing Masteron E once a week will still keep estrogen where it has to be even if the half life is near dying by the 7th day for another shot.
An AI may need to be added even if it isn’t Masteron since 500UI of HCG will kick me in the face. I haven’t taken it in awhile
Looking for some input
I don’t think I’ll need Caber since it’s such a low dose of deca.
That’s my rough draft and any more information on my injury and goals that you’d like to know please inquire before blasting me with “you don’t know what you are doing” please
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This comment section is painful yet hilarious to read lol
Ranger3252I’m taking the high road today and staying away from this clown show.
Ranger3252What was i reading? That Michael Jackson was saving the kids from the Epstein island. He was keeping them safe if they slept in his bed and stayed in his private room?
[b]Bro it’s simple math
.50ml of 250mg of test decanoate is 125mg
.50ml of 250mg deca decanoate is 125mg
Making my total milligram weekly 250mg not 500mg
You guys RRRRR Retarded
Depo
Or depot is slang for decanoate
Guys just accept the L on this one
I’m clearly not a newbie and Pumped knew this. From now on I’m DM’ing him if he accepts because clearly he is your daddy. I’m going to repost this is in bold so everyone knows you guys are butt hurt[/b]
Decanoate half life is 10-14 days and stays in for weeks once terminal half life’s are saturated
Therefore for a cruise only injecting on mondays may be lazy but definitely plausible. Yes mon/thurs makes for more stable peaks BUT IM NOT CYCLING.
Holy damn shit
You’re really are a fucking idiot.
It’s Deca Nandrolone, not Deca Decanoate.
Deca is the slang term for Deca Nadrolone. Deca is short for decanoate, the ester.
You also switch between Deca and NPP, 2 very different esters and they respond very differently.
Finally pinning more then once dose not make something a cycle. The dose you take is what makes something a cycle/blast.
But have fun, I can’t wait to see you post in a month asking for help with man boobs.
Fuck you zoot
So what are I’m thinking is
.25mlof test depo 250mg Monday/Thursday
.25ml deca depo 250mg Monday/Thurs
Or just do
.50ml test depo 250mg Monday
.50ml deca depo 250mg Monday
Depot has a half life of 10-14 days and last weeks
I’m not cycling and the whole point of adding deca was to assist with ergonomic rehab until I’m ready to CLEAR RACKS AND T BAR FOUR PLATES AGAIN ON MY FIRST DECA CYCLE. Imagine if I cycled for years.
Anyway good job reading the title
Great job reading in depth guys
Awesome job trying to attack me when Pumped and I were clearly not arguing but a bunch of losers had to do the YoU OnLy HaVe OnE PoST ATtAcK guys!!
Losers
Wtf is the half life on "depot". You're dumb dude. Lol.
Fuckin fAceTAnK hahaha.
250-400mg/wk IS cycling you moron. Also reppin 4 plates on a tbar isnt impressive. If that's your goal, go get some protein powder.
Using steroids for "ergonomic rehab" is not a thing. Only in your world is it a thing. A thing you made up and are now arguing with everyone about you fuckin troll.
Go rep ur 4 PLATER T BAR and maybe even bench 135 while ur at it.
Bro it’s simple math
.50ml of 250mg of test decanoate is 125mg
.50ml of 250mg deca decanoate is 125mg
Making my total milligram weekly 250mg not 500mg
You guys RRRRR Retarded
Depo
Or depot is slang for decanoate
Guys just accept the L on this one
I’m clearly not a newbie and Pumped knew this. From now on I’m DM’ing him if he accepts because clearly he is your daddy. I’m going to repost this is in bold so everyone knows you guys are butt hurt
You should get your estrogen checked prior to starting all of this. You type like a woman with the caps and seem a little emotional.
Otherwise blast away. The Deca may help your pain but it isn’t going to help heal you. Would explore long term use of peptides on top of your HGH for healing.
Last thing adding Masteron to that stack is like cancelling out what you perceive to be the positive effect of Deca. It’s going to dry you out while you said you are attempting to lubricrate. So that didn’t really make any sense.
Also the only thing Masteron does for e2 is stops your tits from growing, it won’t lower e2. No matter how much Masteron I’ve taken so far my e2 hasn’t moved.
I agree with Mrtomorrow...check your mental sides before hopping on bud. You sound a little unhinged for an anabolic forum and hard headed, but good luck.
As they say...you can't save them all...especially from themselves. Hope you find some help bud
I’m gonna be honest, you sound dumb and @Pumped_ is trying to explain it to you. Frankly arguing with him after you asked for opinions only makes you look worse.
What you’re describing is not a TRT dose. 100mg to 200mg of Test (maybe 250mg for poor responder). That’s TRT
Only wanted to pin once a week because you don’t want to cycle..are you fucking kidding me. You actually think pin more than once a week makes a cycle? It’s smart to pin at least twice a week, if not more.
Adex/Nolv to lower anabolics? That is not how that works at all. You want “lower” anabolics you take less. If you having estrogen side effects they can help manage that, but they don’t lower anabolics.
You’re going to crash your estrogen and feel like shit if you take Adex for no reason and think it lowers anabolics. Then you will really feel like shit and your joins will feel horrible!
Being shutdown is shutdown. There is no such thing as shutdown and heavy shutdown.
HCG, why? Are you planning on coming off? Having kids? If not, there is no reason to run this. You’ll just cause your estrogen to spike for no reason and possibly give yourself man boobs.
I hate to sounds like a dick but you clearly need to do a lot more research and understanding what your reading.
I’ll give you the saving grace because although you were CONDESCENDING. You attempted to educate. Yes I’m not trying to crash my estrogen WHICH IS WHY I WANT TO ADD MASTERON WHICH DOESNT CRASH ESTROGEN. Removing MASTERON AND ADDING AN AI IS TO LOWER OVERALL MILLIGRAMS SO I CAN MINIMIZE FEELING LIKE I AM ON A CYCLE.
I’ve been shutdown for a long time on TRT. The girlfriend would like to see me look like I could have kids. The shit you don’t say because it’s awkward.
I’m triggered because that other dumbass thought I was arguing when clearly PUMPED and I were talking before this post got hijacked BY A FUCKING BRIDGE TROLL
I hope either you or the girlfriend is sterile because we as a society do not need ass face retarded clowns like you reproducing.
Removing MASTERON AND ADDING AN AI IS TO LOWER OVERALL MILLIGRAMS SO I CAN MINIMIZE FEELING LIKE I AM ON A CYCLE.
So you are uneducated. Nothing lies overall milligrams of anabolics besides not using them. I’m amazed you haven’t fucked yourself up yet, but you do you.
I mean sounding like the 15 year asking about Tren for a first cycle is a good look for you.
Nah man I just gave up when clearly I was listening to Pumped and got circle jerked by a bunch of homos who probably share dic pics with each other
Would you like a dick pic too?
I don’t feel like slapping you guys around any more no
I’ll listen to people who don’t yell before READING THAT IM ACTUALLY TAKING PUMPED ADVICE
Love you to idiot
Ahhh...another troll. Good try
I remember you
You trolled me before on another account I had to ditch from a lost android device getting locked out of Google
If I remember someone like Pumped had to come in and put you in your place for trolling FoR OnlY HaVing OnE PoST… He must be dumb
Nobody goes full retard like KockStrap
It's zoot!!
Holy shit
Just throw em in fight club
Let's kill this guy
This is the best comment!!
You figured out I don’t care about your fake fronts to scare off tren teenagers!
Took your slow ass long enough!! Hahahahaha
There is no saving how dumb you guys are
It’s been established these are not TRT
When I pinned my deca cycle I did mon/thurs/sat as it was an NPP durabolin mix with test and mast
Arguing with pumped
We are having a legit back and forth
You wasted all your time typing up shit that is already clearly common sense
BRO DEPOT HAS A HALF LIFE OF 10 DAYS. I CLEARLY ALREADY SAID I DONT WANT TO CYCLE
FUCK OFF
That’s not going to work with NPP
And you keep saying Deca before. Is it Deca or NPP.
The short ester of NPP has to be injected at least every other day, if not everyday.
You don’t have to like me, but that still doesn’t change the facts.
I am about to give up, where are these fucktards coming from. I am just going to skip this one, I dont have the energy for this shit. So fucking retarded he has no clue what does what but wants to inject it into his body.
RETARD
DECA IS BEING ADDED FOR A FUCKING BLOWN OUT BACK YOU SLOW ASS ANIMAL
Yeah that is what deca is for a blown out back.. God damn your mother should have swallowed and then smashed your daddy's balls. A complete retarded ass clown came out of them.
What if
Deca 200mg
HCG 500UI
HGH 2UI-3.3UI
No primo no mast
Adex or ai maybe not needed. I have plenty of spare caber if I get progesterone production
No test either. Just deca and HCG. 500mcg/day of HCG and 2grams/week of deca. Keep it simple, yet effective.
Im sorry but not one sentence in this post says TRT.
..and you are looking to cycle if you are adding all that so lets clear that up now and you can move forward and not fool yourself. The deca even at low dose helps with joints for me. Id hold off on masteron/primo and stay with deca or just do test/masteron. No need for all those compounds, i dont see any competition in your future.
Not looking to compete in doing this as a hobby
If I were to run just deca what dose we looking at for deca as TRT?
1.5-2 grams per week if you can afford it on your allowance
Deca is going to raise your levels over "trt" levels so if we want to be politically correct we will call it a cruise or mild cycle. I find 100mg is enough to combat my roto cuff pain and not give the water gain or raise prolactin levels but give added strength. So 125 test and 75 deca i may think would work for you. Personally 200 test 100 deca i would go with. Either way you are shutting down especially with the nor so why not get maximum results from it with minimum sides. Doubt you will need an AI as most dont with that low but keep on hand and remember estrogen raises prolactin somewhat also. Still dont see need for caber. Not really sure why not wanting to "breach a certain milligram dosage". Its either real TRT which would be 125mg testosterone or around depends on testing only or do a mild cycle like we are talking about. Figure out what your actual goals are besides not wanting to breach goal. Masteron or primo if you are running a real cycle is the only way to benefit from either of the 2 and dont waste on a small cruise cycle.
I’m wanting to strictly focus on cardio, physical therapy rehab and mobility. I’ll be tossing in very basic preliminary workouts such as pull ups, chin-ups, pushups, arm workouts, cable shoulders, core such as planks or safe weighted cable core work, plenty of safe back extensions and one legged squats on the bench. Nothing heavy and I’ll travel with caution. Definitely some hip abduction workout alongside resetting my hips and stretching my glutes and hamstrings for a very long time
I was doing phenomenal on my previous deca cycle watching blood pressure and heart rate and never really had any side effects.
Put on a ton of weight and started to clear racks and recovered from abusive leg days within one day. I was only within week 9-12 so the deca was really only peaking. Was going for a 20-26 week cycle and come down to TRT. I went for a four plate T bar row, mind you lifting like a mad dog going over set and rep limits and could hear the pop. It was a very long road to heal but it healed itself. I stupidly decided to get back injections with a new doctor and based on the neurosurgeon he traumatized my muscles with the epidermal needle and actually really fucked up my back when I was better off legit letting it heal on its own. I regret it. MRI revealed they were minor herniations!! I was pissed!! You can tuck minor herniations back in place with posture, mobility and PT. Sure the cell walls are considered more weak but enter HGH and deca with safe long term healing.
It’s been over a year since I’ve been in the gym. Like I said. I’m not looking to cycle and already TRT. I’m really looking to take the slow path. I’d like to maximize my cardio while not focusing on muscle mass so when I do cycle body fat will be far from an issue. The basic preliminary workouts as mentioned is to maintain mass and if anything put on some good lean mass while putting more focus on stretching, yoga, mobility and cardio so I can prepare my cardiovascular system for any cycle in the future. Whenever that time comes. I’m not in a rush
I’ve been trying to find the minimum amount of nandrolone needed for the joint benefits and I’m down to 50mg ew and my shoulders and knees feel as good on 50 as they have on 500 in the past. It doesn’t take much to get your joints feeling good.
Then don't use any gear at all!! You want to maximize your cardio and not worry about muscle mass. Then fucking go run and leave the gear out of it. Go do your yoga in your spandex and forget gear altogether. What you are doing in this proposed cycle is not TRT look up the definition.
Seriously read the whole post
IT IS FOR BODY PAIN. ADDING DECA AND REMOVING MASTERON FOR BODY PAIN
GO BACK TO SCHOOL SLOW FUCKING ANIMAL
Shut your fucking mouth dude
Seriously if you can’t add anything you don’t know how I look or how hard I work
WE KNOW IT ISNT A REAL CRUISE THIS HAS BEEN ESTABLISHDD
I wish I could get in the boxing ring with you and punch logic in your face
Read the back and forth first fucktard
If you got into a boxing ring with me, there would only be 3 hits, I hit you, you hit the ground, and an ambulance hits 90 to try and save your floppy ass.
You're so fucking retarded that you think this cycle is a good idea and called TRT and will help your body pain, because that is what deca was developed for, body pain. Again go back to your spandex and do your yoga, show off your camel toe, and pretend you are accomplishing something in life you penis breath bitch.