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Your comparison and experience, what would you choose?
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what do you prefer to use, what would you choose Trenbolone acetate or maybe better Trenbolpne enanthate? What was your experience with it and what effect did it have on your kidneys, liver and heart? Or maybe it would be better to choose Boldenon?
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DocMcGainsHave you tried any other 19-nors? They aren't exactly a crystal ball, but they can give you a sense of how you might respond to tren. Run some NPP, and if you don't get terrible prolactin sides, or nandrolone anhedonia, or myriad other side effects you might be someone who does OK on 19-nors. Then maybe escalate to the low-dose tren.
Dr. Todd IS a nutter, as a wise person below said, but Vigorous Steve and his colleagues on the Anabolic Roundtable (Kurt Havens and Dr. Dean) make a similar suggestion. Dr. Dean claims you can go as low as 25-30mg/week of tren (ester doesn't really matter, except if you have shit sides and need to dump it, in which case, as others have said, you will be stuck with those sides for longer if you run enanthate) and still get the nutrient partitioning and anti-catabolic effects.
I have a similar plan for a summer cut, starting at 6mg/day and titrating up if I need to. I tolerate other 19-nors (NPP, deca) well, but have never run tren before so it is a gamble. I have a vial of enanthate, thus I will likely go with that, but I would probably be better served by acetate with daily injections.
EQ is a different kind of drug - I'm on 420mg now. I don't have any sides, and I'm adding nice lean mass, but it isn't crazy, dramatic, or volatile. Slow and steady gains, and generally feeling good on it, except it crushed my E2 because I pushed it too high relative to my test and had to take dbol to spike my estrogen back up while my test levels caught up.
Tren does nothing for me. I like test and HGH. Tren sucks
If you have never ran it, you should use Tren Ace. Shorter ester so if you have sides you will have it out of your system quicker. I used Tren E and let me tell you the night sweats were horrible and I would wake up in the middle of the night with severe dry mouth. I dont even know if I will ever run Tren again.
This ^ Ace allows you to bail. E was the worst gear experience of my life
DocMcGainsShare! Everyone loves a worst gear experience of my life story!
I’m curious what dose you were running, I haven’t run it yet, planning to in the next couple months, just giving my body some time off, but according to Todd Lee, starting 5 mg daily injection with Tren enathate and titrating up max 5 mg daily per week, Should produce all the good and none of the bad effects. If you start having side effects, taper back down to the previous dose.
LOL I dont know man, I dont even know if I would dare try everyday injections. I was only on 200mg a week and got those sides. I will say it did make my muscles big but waking up almost every night feeling like I was running a fever was not fun. It took a long time for all of the sides to go away as well. Like weeks after I stopped I would still wake up here and there sweating. I also turned my piss almost an orange color.
With enathate most people don’t consider it necessary, but with acetate, due to the quick half-life, you would absolutely have less side effects with daily injections to prevent fluctuations in your levels
In all honesty I would choose DHB over Tren and Bold
I haven’t run Tren yet, But I’m planning to in the near future. I’ve been studying some of the videos from Todd Lee’s anabolic university on YouTube, apparently the vast majority of psychiatric side effects come from people, injecting acetate, especially every other day. I plan to start with Tren E, 5 mg daily, and titrate up 5 mg per week until I notice I start having a short fuse, then return to the dose where I previously experienced no side effects.
Todd Lee is a head case, not saying you don't have a good grasp of how to handle your cycle schedule but I would not take much advice from him.
I hear you, He does have deep knowledge on the subject, And in this case, the advice seems conservative, and less likely to cause serious issues, when compared to other dosing schedules. My main goal, is to maintain my muscle mass while in a caloric deficit to help me compete in a lower weight class. But since I am new to this specific compound, I’m wondering how you would run it?
I'm not a bodybuilder I do this for fun so I don't really have a good background on tren as it wont likely ever be something I run. Seems like the general consensus is ace the first time you run it that way you can hop off quicker with the shortened half life, start low ive seen people run as low as 25mg a week and still have a great impact on their physique, titrate up if going well. Just listen to your body and keep it short the first time around.
I’d opt for the shorter ester. If you have an adverse effect it’ll clear quicker. Tren is one of those that some tolerate and others have TERRIBLE sides. Start low. Tren ace dose daily