+ 4 HUGE glute infection after shot of Test E250 Ultima
So I've had 2 vials from Osgear, promo order, looking like this. I've injected Test E250 Ultima and had huge bruise and pain on my glute. I couldn't walk for days ... I then checked the vial and found this. The rubber went down in the liquid. I'm happy it went away after a week of aspirine and I didn't had an infection. I then just stopped injecting, OF COURSE ! I am also surprised as after 5 years using almost all injectables from Ultima it's the first time EVER I see this.
I saw another member on Eroid had same issue with Beligas NPP. He's lucky to had a reship as I had no compensation on my side, no credit, nothing. I'm not really sure what meant the explanation ... ''We can't compensate free gear for obvious reasons. Also, the Ultima-Enan 250 is no longer in stock. You've used 5 vials so it's enough quantity to be able to test the product and it works for sure''. I have to say first time ever I am disapointed with Osgear service ...
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Great. I just order 3 of those from PM and seen another guy post the same thing.
First off I would like to thank Tits-and-mass (sorry I don't know how to tag you) who was brave (not like me) to go and open a topic regarding the issue of the rubber stopper. He inspired me to decide to do the same. Thanks for everybody who commented. We are a community. We want the best for each other. We want to do our sport with as little risk as possible. We eat clean, (hopefully lol), train, do cardio and use gear wisely (hopefully), We'Re also here when a rookie came in to tell him stay away from tren or just don't touch yet the juice. Thanks.
I was looking at the pictures posted by @Tits and Mass and there is a different issue (robber is damaged completely) and it looks different. I would say that Ultima's robber stopper is way better.
You're welcome mate, it's what we as a community are about. Take the rough with the smooth, can't be damaging customers for sake of a few pennies, these companies spend pittance compared to what they make, or made. I'm glad you spoke up, maybe more have issues, we will see
I have no doubt other had same issues. As it's produced in mass in factory I don't think it will be a few vials affected ... more like hundreds if not thousands. Maybe the supplier of rubber stopper is the one to blame. Ultima, Nakon, Beligas ''I THINK'' are the same oils. BUT, the vials and rubber stopper is produced by another company. It's just PURE speculation. Don't quote me on this.
I wouldn't say that "these companies spend pittance". I want to inform you that is not easy to make these products available, even if it looks. It's a lot of work and risk - considering the nature of the business - and as you can see, there is a raws shortage on the market so, first of all, the primary material is missing. I assure you that all the manufacturers are looking for highest quality.
Truly grateful for the companies that do make them, must be a very stressful time with the raw situation right now. This is the reason why we look upto reputable companies like yourself and trusted brands mate
Thank you, we appreciate it.
Obviously there’s been a manufacturing error. This isn’t the only brand it’s happened to but the company should be notified. I can show you all the stoppers are sinking in and softening up. Just use filters to protect yourself.
OBVIOUSLY. When I hear ''which needle you used'' or ''filter'' it's all good, don't get me wrong. But with 25+ years of pinning and thousands if not hundred of thousands of vials in my hands and I see this for the FIRST TIME EVER ... come on ...We call this ''STATISTICS''.
The company was notified about the stoppers and they are checking the quality once again.
I have done that using 18 gage needles. I switched to 20 gage or 21 gage
Hatchet or .22lr ? I’ve never seen a stopper look like that.
Look at my recent images mate, can happen. Never known the issue beforehand either used 21 to 25g and same results
Yet again proving why you don't use a fat needle to draw. 25g works great.
I’m a 27g for both draw and inject. Never an issue
Hello,
Is quite strange that you've posted this on the board since you've contacted us about this back in October 2025.
To complete the picture about this promo. It was a $450 loyalty promo order and you've got:
7 x Ultima-Enan 250
1 x Ultima-Oxa 50
1 x Ultima-Oxy
1 x Ultima-Cialis 25 - FREEBIE
Your complain:
"As I recently injected Test E250 I had huge bruise and pain on my glute. I then checked the vial and found this. It seems the rubber went down in the liquid. I hope I wont have an infection. I am also surprised as after 5 years using almost all injectables from Ultima it's the first time EVER I see this. I had this issue on 2 vials. The 5 others were great as usual. I am attaching the pictures. Also can you send me 2 vials to make for it or credit. Let me know. Thanks. How can I send pictures ??
L. A., 2025-10-24 22:39:23"
This was our answer:
"The rubber stopper sometimes can be damaged by the needle and particles from it might end in the oil but that is not an issue since you don't inject them.
This order was an Eroids promo order placed in April so 6 months ago. We can't compensate free gear for obvious reasons. Also, the Ultima-Enan 250 is no longer in stock. You've used 5 vials so it's enough quantity to be able to test the product and it works for sure.
2025-10-24 23:13:10"
So here are some points:
I hope you've enjoyed the promo and I hope you find a better source that could meet your expectations.
Thank you.
Thanks @Osgear for stepping in. First off thanks for many years of excellent product, quality and service. You've always served me great and the numerous 5 stars reviews I did for you is a statement of how much I've appreciated everything you did for me. Now, regarding the ''October 2025'' incident to wait until now is what is explained in my post. I saw few days ago another member having same issue so I decide to report to protect the community.
Thank you for feedback.
There might be another member having the same issue but I repeat, this doesn't mean that the product itself have a problem. With care, this situation can be avoided.
I have NO DOUBT the oil is absolutely perfect ! I did almost all the oils of Ultima for 5-6 years. I consider it one of the best. It's only this freaking rubber stopper lol Maybe they,ve changed their supplier of rubber stopper. I am just speculating. In 25+ years of pinning I never saw that before those 2 vials. So that's still more than 99% success for Ultima overall.
I used to draw with 20g and that would happen a lot with any rubber stopper vials I used. I switched to drawing with 23g and never had an issue since.
UNIT_i draw all my oils with 20g needles never had this issue
UNIT_did you stab it with a knife
lol I was thinking the same thing
Looks like ol’ buddy was drawing oil with a bayonet
Should post pics spreading those cheeks to prove it
Finally someone had the proper solution.
Hey I had a bad experience with that same stuff. My friend who gave it to me also had a bad experience too. Extremely painful and lots of swelling. The top of the vial bubbled outwards. Not sure what caused it to protrude but I threw the it away after that. I think my friend got them to reship a new batch though. I don’t think it caused the same issues though. I just stayed away from that brand after that experience --
Literally the same with what happening to me with B brand, as a few have said they're the same manufacturer different names. Issue needs addressing as this could cause serious issues in us. Comes to something when even your fucking gear has microplastics/rubber. We're doomed!
Exactly ! Thank you. Micro and nano plastic.
That sucks. Hopefully the info will get to the lab so they can fix it. I've been using all their oils for 5-6 years and had them in my top brands. I've had them as the best in terms of ratio quality/price.
This is why I consider “pharma grade” a joke. Ive seen this same brand on here in the past with a pube in the bottle. It’s all ugl to me unless it came from a dr, hospital, or pharmacy.
Also that's why it's safer to go with ampoules. 0 rubber.
You and I both need to invest in a filter
I’ve been curious about them however Ive heard they have their own issues as well with glass shards. Not to mention what if i just need a half of a ml, then i gotta use up another pin to store the rest?
Easier with ampoules is like back in the day. Guys were not counting in ml but in ampoules. 2 or 3 tests per week means 500-750mg/week. You can still be accurate. If you divide 1 ampoule in 3 shots. That's 83mg per shot. Say 166mg. A correct dose for TRT. But there is a limit for being accurate with ampoules. As for glass shards, never had with REAL pharma grade. And they are WAY bigger then super thin rubber powder also.
I forgot to mention, look into multi dose vial adapters. I put em on vials i know im gonna need to take more than 10 pulls from. You wont have any coring and you can get away with using them a couple times.
Wow, it's not an isolated case then mate. No stopper should be doing this nowadays, the oils are thinner so we naturally use high gauge pins anyway. My quad now you've mentioned that was similar, need to invest in filter needles i think now
That response from OSGear honestly doesn’t sit right with me.
You provided pics, explained what happened, and there was clearly a defect (rubber pushed into the vial). You then had a serious reaction after injecting it. Regardless of whether it was a promo or paid order, that’s on the product side … not user error.
Saying “you used 5 vials so it works for sure” completely misses the point. One bad vial is enough to cause a serious issue, and in this case it almost did. Health > quantity used.
I’m not here to bash @Osgear … I’ve personally never had an issue with them either … but situations like this deserve to be handled better. At the end of the day, sources benefit massively from reviews and community trust. When something goes wrong, how they respond matters more than keeping a 5-star ranking intact.
IMO, you should leave an honest review explaining exactly what happened and how it was handled. Not out of spite, but transparency. Promo or not, customers should be treated the same … especially when there’s a legit safety concern.
This is a good reminder that rankings don’t always reflect overall service or how problems are handled when they actually come up. Just my 2 cents.
Hello,
I have to point out some facts. We have shipped 7 vials with clear oil in them and we haven't decided or indicated what needle and gauge should be used. The client used 5 vials successfully... look at the rubber stopper of this vial, the needle damaged it from the top. There is no way for us to verify what or how was handled and used but we know that this can be avoided if product is handled with care.
From our point of view, there is nothing that was wrong here and where the source should have made the situation right.
Thank you.
Appreciate you taking the time to respond and clarify your perspective.
I understand your point regarding handling, needle choice, and the fact that multiple vials were used without issue. I also agree that improper technique can damage a stopper, and in many cases user error is absolutely a factor … no argument there.
That said, from a customer and community standpoint, the concern isn’t really about whether the entire batch “worked” or how many vials were used successfully. The concern is that one vial showed a physical defect that coincided with a severe reaction, and once that happens, the priority naturally shifts to safety and reassurance rather than fault.
I fully get that it’s difficult for a source to verify handling after the fact … that’s a reality of this space. At the same time, when a member documents an abnormal vial and reports a reaction that forced them to stop injections altogether, many customers expect at least some level of goodwill response, even if responsibility can’t be definitively assigned.
To be clear, this isn’t about bashing or accusing. I’ve personally never had issues with you( @Osgear ), and that’s why I commented in the first place … because long-term trust is built not only on smooth transactions, but also on how edge cases are handled when something unusual comes up.
I appreciate you explaining your reasoning here, and I’m sure most people reading can now better understand your side as well. Transparency from both ends is always a positive thing.
Thanks again for taking the time to address it.
Hello,
Yes, "one vial showed a physical defect" but after the vial was unsealed and as you can see in the picture, more than half of it was used. I was dealing with hundreds of issues, also related to products and I know how to deal with these issues. When I get multiple reports or there is something that we consider being an issue, is immediately (if not instantly) reported to the manufacturer. We deal with all the issues reported! That's why we encourage clients to report any problem so we can take action immediately.
I want to assure every single person who read this message, that we take everything very seriously... from products quality to customer support and this is not only at a statement level. We do act.
Sometimes, the opinions or perceptions might not coincide but we do know where the limit is and what we can do or not. I hope this is reasonable.
Respectfully!
Na they talk to everyone like their a piece of shit
Dude, i bought some glp or glp1, don't quite remember which? Sema or tirz for the wife and it wouldn't reconstitute for shit. I reached out and tried to talk to me like I haven't been reconstituting shit for years now. I told them, look at my list of orders and tell me this is the first time I've attempted to reconstitute. After going back and forth, they reshipped replacement for it, but come on! You don't talk to customers like that! I know we don't here in the States. And with the amount of mates I've met from across the pond, I know that's not how customers or ppl are treated over there either.
Makes no sense at all! What if something did happen to somebody? Wouldn't matter to you? I have a feeling it wouldn't. One of the reasons I stopped dealing with OS. Now, they ignore me like the plague. And I honestly don't give a rats ass what they think of what I just said. The truth is the truth! I still have all the messages. We didn't wanna go there, do we? How they stay at #1 is beyond my comprehension.
I disagree. "talk to everyone like their a piece of shit" is a delusional statement.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that with OSgear.
Honestly after that incident I stayed quiet. I don't like drama. But when I saw today someone posted about the NPP Beligas I was ok I have to say what happened. I've also had excellent service for years, with them, 5 stars.
Sources need to hold these brands accountable because it's the source that is going to take the blunt of it for dumb shit like this. That for sure is a piss poor rubber stopper. Looks like the rubber was dried out and now it's just crumbling. I would use a smaller gauge needle though like 23g or 25g.
I did use a 25g. That's my go to. Always. And still ... And yes that's unfortunate for the Source. Maybe raws are getty rare/expensive and they are getting cheap on the rubbers. Every cent counts. But to the cost of health ?