+ 7 So then I started blasting... Bloodwork
Bloods 6 weeks into blast. Running Test 660 Primo 440 HGH 6iu Reta 12mg. Lipids went to shit, so I started atorvastatin 40 mg. I’ll retest in a month to check impact.
I donated a pint of blood the week prior to pulling these as my Hematocrit was creeping up and I'm thinking that may be the impact on MCHC.
My Igf numbers haven't moved since pre-trt. I was pinning 6iu nightly. I didn't pull Serum and I understand it's more nuanced than pin gh igf go up. I continue to respond somewhat weakly in total test for the amount I'm running, but man I'm happy with the results. So far over these 6 weeks I have lost 25lb, all of my lifts are up, and I surprise myself when I take my shirt off in front of the mirror.
The gears: Cypotest 300, Primodept 200, Goldtrope 400iu pack
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Wild how much of this is genetics. My lipids have never been anything but perfect, regardless of my blast or my diet. And I have had some bad diet years haha. I do need multiple BP support meds when I blast sometimes though. So i got shafted in that regard haha.
Thanks for posting big dog!
Damn dude, those are bad lipids for just primo and test. If you didn’t tell us I would have guessed you were on tren or anavar. I’m suprised reta hasn’t done more for yours.
A certain brand of red yeast rice cut my LDL and triglycerides in half. RYR is chemically identical to lovastatin. My lipids looked amazing on it, total cholesterol was like 119. But the muscle cramps were bad, even when supplementing with coq10. Others may tolerate it better. It’s the HPF Cholestene Brand from Swanson. A lot of RYR is junk and doesn’t have lovastatin in it but the HPF stuff does. It dropped my total around 100 points so it could get you back where you should be. Didn’t take long either. I was only taking 100mg of coq10. I should have been doing 200 or 300 since I had the cramping issue.
The 400iu GT kits are fire. I’ve been on it for a while now. Still getting sick results at 3ius Ed.
Thanks for the feedback. Your previous posts on igf and key's kits kept me grounded when my numbers didn't move. Per your suggestion, I'll keep pinning at night. I also appreciate your advice for lipids.
I’m gonna get my Igf levels checked this week. I’m using 10ius of usroids gh and I’ll let you know what it looks like.
Did you ever?
I think I’m gonna get my IGF tested now. I’m no genius I know the Igf testing isn’t the end all be all if your HGH is legit but I know it is a decent indicator atleast. Even at 6ius I’d expect the igf1 levels to be a bit high right?
Igf-1 is the end all be all for testing. It’s the best we have, but it’s not consistent fo all people. It’s not a great measure of one’s response to GH, or the quality of the GH except for everyone. Certain people just don’t get much systemic IGF-1 elevation from GH, but still get great results. Others get significant IGF-1 elevation and blood test will tell them if they have quality GH or not. I’m one of the people that gets significant systemic IGF-1 increase from GH so blood test will tell me if GH is good or not. I’ve been on goldtrope for a while my igf-1 was around 500 on 4ius. If I’m not at 400 on 4ius, or 300 on 3ius etc then there’s something wrong with the GH.
6ius has got him to where he’s at. That’s not his natural production, that’s shut down and has been replaced with the exogenous GH.
I'm going to switch things up and move dosing GH to the AM while also running some I stacked from another source. I'm also running a different eroids sourced test for my next pull.
It's mostly still just early data points for me, but I was hoping for some movement there.
I wouldn’t switch to morning. There’s no benefit to it, but you are much more likely to screw up your blood sugar/insulin sensitivity taking it in the morning.
I’d forget about your IGF-1 levels and focus on the mirror. The 3 month mark is when I personally start noticing results in terms of body composition.
Much higher. Normal replacement is like 1 IU.
I have to ask, why are you taking such a high dose of Reta? In their phase 3 trial 12mg is the max and half of the individuals started having some sides. Less is better when it comes to this stuff to get your desired results.
You could cut your Test and Primo down some and still get the results you seek. Thats what really is fucking up your Lipids to higher levels. If you were not on Reta you would be even higher than you are now.
I think there are still two schools of thought on reta dosing, running the lowest dose that is effective at reducing food noise for as long as possible, or titrating up to max study study dosage for maximum effect if tolerated well. I also think the cost of US sourced reta plays into the dosing meta as well.
While I felt food noise go away at my first 1mg dose, once I titrated up to 10mg, the fat really started falling off. So now I'm running 12.5mg of inexpensive China sourced reta which symmetrically quarters a 50mg vial.
I know everyone is different man but the low dose Reta is working. If you would weigh yourself on a low dose once a week you would see you are losing weight at a safe pace. You should only lose 3 to 5 pounds a week anything more is not good. I only took 3mg a week and lost over 50 lbs in 4 months. My Reta came from HongKong.
I feel way better about my lipids when on cycle now.
Without telling you what I do for a living you might need to consider multiple LDL meds with it being that high. You might need a pcsk-9 inhibitor like repatha. For now I would at least add zetia to the atorva. On your repeat in 4 weeks if you can separate out the lipids portion and its still high I would go talk to your pcp.
Thank you for the feedback, I have an Ezetimibe prescription in flight now.
This is really good advise and should be read a few times by OP ^
Get those lipids under control. That's a recipe for disaster in the future, especially running gear. Ezetimibe will help but your probably gonna need statins or something more potent.
How did you lose 25lbs in six weeks on a blast? Shouldn't you be gaining weight?
Because he is on 12mg of Reta and its way too much which is hindering his gains.
Taking anything for e2? With that amount of test I'd say the primo is doing its job if no AI in play if that's the case
No AI. Primo is my jam.