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Hey I have a chance to score some 200mg/ml primo for the typical exorbitant prices primo commands nowadays.
I'm already running mast E at 200/wk and have been for about a month.
For those of you that have run both, what's ur opinion? Should I spend my chicklins on primo, or just keep running my mast? Is there a huge difference In muscle growth?
Mast > Primo
I’m going to disagree with the other replies and say run them both together. I know the primo you’re talking about and it is very good. To me, mast is like a freebie. Doesn’t affect my e2, not really anabolic, doesn’t touch bloods except to lower HDL minimally, but it dries me out, makes me look like a sick cunt and gives me a mental boost in and out of the gym. Primo will actually contribute some gains and has the bonus of not affecting my bloods (except e2) at all. I think mast and primo actually compliment each other really well and I usually run at least a little mast in pretty much every stack
Thank you buddy for the detailed answer. I think I might skip the primo for this specific round. I'm making good gains and I'm pretty dialed in. I don't want to make a sudden change and throw things off.
But next time...
No problem, just wanted to give a dissenting opinion. Keep up the good work
Thanks buddy. Hopefully get fucking gigantic like you one day you stud.
One day I’ll feel as big as other people think I am. Until then I’m stuck here with you guys. Looking forward to seeing the progress you’re making on this cycle.
Primo isn’t as harsh on lipids as mast. I love mast, but if they had identical pricing, I’d run primo. It’s a slightly different feel. It’s said primo is the better of the two for growth at higher doses, though I didn’t perceive major differences.
Prices being what they are, I’d keep pinning mast brother.
Thanks buddy
In my opinion Primo is better of course but I wouldn’t break the bank on it especially at 200mg/week you won’t see much of a difference between them. They’re not the best for muscle growth either especially low dose. Better off spending that money on some HGH instead.
Be careful with sourcing primo nowadays because you might be paying more for mast thinking it’s primo.
Oh yah buddy I'm on the GH too. Just started. Waiting on some npp to show up and I'm just probably gonna stick it out with test/mast/npp and Gh. And reta, and HCG, and Cialis, and injectable pwo.... I'm sure I'm forgetting something
rhino82You my friend are not fucking around.
Fuck my mother that’s a lot of gear
I would stick with the mast and spend the primo money on gh. I know you are already on gh but can you tolerate more and if you tried and couldn't have you tried more again possibly with different injection timing. I feel like more gh will have more noticeable effects then switching from mast to primo and the primo could crash your estrogen when the mast was not.
I’m keeping it clean with bio-identicals lately just test higher dose and GH, plus the additionals you mentioned like Reta cialis bp meds etc. How’s Reta treating you? I’m on low dose and like all the benefits but it kills my appetite on 2mg/week
Anyone know where i can find estradiol Valerate.its for my wife who is going through menopause and needs it.
Titan taking over the stash, Unc’s gear is the duck’s guts.
Damn brother. That’s a stash. I had one like that a few years back. When I first went on my own from clinic I stocked up.
I use the same pharma test cyp. we probably play the same game of timing out blood draws to make sure we are gonna be able to get out scripts haha
I don’t miss the cottonseed oil from my pharma test. That shit was so annoying to load or pin with anything smaller than 23g.
It's my least favorite game to play every 6 months...
LMAO, that’s like taking advantage of the Welfare system when you don’t really need that shit. If you are bodybuilding, you don’t have Low T, and don’t need an Rx brah.
I pay cash for mine. My insurance won't cover it. And it is A LOT more expensive than UGL. so technically, they are taking advantage of me.
But never have to worry about Walgreens pulling an exit scam, or pharma gear being bunk.
Furthermore, as it is prescribed by a Dr, that comes with regular blood work, that is then Reviewed by a Dr (not a bunch of bros on the interwebs). So overall health is taken into account.
In sum, whether or not you "need" trt, or are just using it to get swole, it's irrefutable that being under the guidance of a Dr, AND taking at least one thing that you know is 100% real is preferable to self prescribing a blast n cruise lifestyle.
I completely understand what you're saying. I don't mean to come off as complaining or as if my situation is all that bad. I actually needed TRT since my levels were 64 total ng/DL and a free test of 3 pg/mL in September 2024 without ever having touched a PED or sarm. They thought it was a pituitary tumor causing it but that wasn't the case. So I definitely needed an RX. My current RX is for 100mg a week but I take 200. So maybe out of abundance of caution I go down to my true TRT dose 4 weeks prior to my appointment. But yes, I definitely was a true hypogonadal male. You're right if police were to find 6 10ml vials of test, the outcome would be imprisonment.
Yeah bro , if it’s truly needed I totally understand. I’m talking about shit bags who play the system to get legal Rx Test in order to use it for PED purposes. I have friends who use Rx Test for their intended purposes and they thrive on it. But there again they truly need it.
Hey fellas you do you. I’m just giving my opinion.
Don’t get butt hurt about my opinion dudes lol
I pay astronomical amounts for insurance brother and I never use it outside of this specific purpose. If anything it’s the insurance companies that are the dirtbags. After decades of gear you’re better off on TRT than trying to be natural again. Plus like Mr. McMilf mentioned, you have peace of mind that it’s quality gear for when you’re on TRT only and trying to get levels back to baseline and get healthy and do labs. UGL stuff can be all over the place which matters less in a cycle if it’s a little under/overdosed, but when you’re dealing with 100-200mg/week trying to get healthy then it matters a lot more. Plus the quality of oil, solvents, contaminants which you don’t have to worry about anymore on RX stuff. Look at Vigorous Steve, he only uses pharma anymore, because it’s cheap and quality, can’t knock the logic if you have access to it. Unc’s right - unless you have bathtubs worth of it, they won’t spend the resources to deal with a petty user. You have literal Junkies on Skid Row or San Fran injecting garbage in the middle of the street while taking a shit at the same time with no one to bother them.
Dude you don’t have to explain the system to me. I know the system pretty well. My wife is a nurse lol. So with that being said if you are on 259 or less of TRT Rx Test it’s totally understandable . But that stash you have isn’t any kind of TRT patient stash. It’s a great stash by the way lol. I don’t give a damn how much you or anyone else pays for insurance. I pay for insurance pay my taxes etc blah blah blah lol. The point is this and has always been this since my fair comment on this thread. If you are a TRT patient legitimately and use TRT doses that’s what it’s intended for right? Yes.
If you later become PED user who use way over any TRY dosage then you are playing the system in order to keep your Dr giving you RX test. Blasting and then cruising in order to keep a script is a bullshit bitch move. I don’t care what anyone thinks about it, that’s facts. You don’t have to try to justify anything to me dude. I had a low T issue about 6 years ago and I’ve been on Test as well. But I never tried to scam any Dr into giving me script for Test by crashing my test intentionally. lol.
And trying to use drug addict junkies on the streets in this as an excuse is pretty fuckin lame dude even for you.
Look at Vigorous Steve? Hahaha that guy is a fuckin idiot.
Tell yourselves what you want dudes. Whatever makes you sleep better at night. But it’s still scamming the system in order to get legal test….. period.
Hell I will always have more respect for dudes and girls who straight up use underground gear because they wanna get huge than a dipshit who says I’m on TRT , then blasts and cruises and crashes in order to keep an Rx Test script man. That’s facts.
You sound pretty upset brother, everything going good? We all make our own choices in our own lives, no need to get so upset about it. It’s just chatter on a forum, don’t take it so serious
No bro I’m really not upset man. But this TRT issue is a hot button topic for me honestly. Sorry for the rants. But I do have lots of buds who actually need TRT after we came home from Iraq whether it was from depression, sex drive, lethargy, insomnia, etc. So it does bother me when dudes use the TRT umbrella to take advantage bro. That’s all.
I get it brother, no worries. Some of us were hypogonadal in teenage years, started the gym to beef up not knowing what the issue was and eventually found out why no progress was made. Then the doc hops you on TRT, and you’re already working out so eventually you dabble in gear also and here we are decades later. Just sayin, everyone has some sort of background story, it’s not always malicious. RX is useful for “health mode” or travel but it’s not that easy to run cycles on it because it would take forever to build up a decent stash amount and it’s all gone in one cycle, hence my stash being UGL mostly.