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Hello everyone,
Hope you all had an amazing thanksgiving! Anyway, I just went to pick up my package and kinda of disappointed, this is the first time this happened to me with this source, I know things happen and I know they will make it right, just wanted to share a couple of pics I took and see if any of you guys have had this problem. When I opened the package I noticed that the Boldenone it’s uneven when you compare the two vials, it also seems to be leaking a little bit.
What concern me the most was the test mix, you see how cloudy it is? I’ve never seen that before and I’ve used this same lab and test in the past, dont really wanna put that in my body.
Thanks and hope I can get some feedback/advise.

Have a great weekend!!!!

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Dadbod00's picture

Sorry that some asshole down voted your complaint. Gave you a thumbs up

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zorro2021's picture

Haha lol thanks, the person who voted me down is actually cool though thanks for the thumbs up bro

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pmroids's picture

Hi @zorro2021

Thanks for your sharing image of course I will tak care of it to figure it out asap. Also, PMR Team replied to you in order ticket system.

Happy thanksgiving.

PMRoids.

JayPlug's picture

I received the exact same thing from you and my vials are the same or worse and one is also leaking from the crimp. Not sure what’s wrong with these but when I contacted support they just told me it’s crystallization which is not correct, i didn’t get any store credit or reship, I can take photos to prove it, damn shame I wanted to use it as my test base.

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zorro2021's picture

Sorry to hear that bro, although I can only speak for myself, these guys have always been great to me and I really trust them, every time there is something wrong if that is the case, they are always on top of it .

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zorro2021's picture

Of course bro I know things happen and it is out of your reach, been doing business with you for years so you have earned my trust 100%

Thanks again!!!!

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Leprechaun's picture

U c they r pretty good. The worst if they will give u shop credits. I have shop credits in ashop and I can't spend for last two or three years. Because that shit what they're selling not delivering to my place

zorro2021's picture

Ohh man, that sucks, are you located somewhere in the USA

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Leprechaun's picture

Ireland

SeeOhShow's picture

Are you basing the leaking on it being filled unevenly compared to the other? Or it has oily residue on it?

The uneven fill is inconsequential and not something they should refund or exchange. The lower filled vial looks like a 10ml fill whereas the other looks like an 11 ml fill. You can fit roughly 12ml in the “10ml” vials. So they overfilled one and properly filled the other. You come out ahead here.

I wouldn’t throw any of it away. Just filter it into some empty sterile vials and enjoy your cycle. Probably should be done with the shitty Chinese peptides too, but that’s a different rabbit hole to go down.

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Gotem69's picture

Hey brother quick question never filtered anything but you think it's ok if I just transfer to an empty vial I've used that's empty from a reputable source so I know his stuff is clean I'll just swap the stopper Got some tren a from cn I need to filter and swap vials

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SeeOhShow's picture

You can amazon prime empty sterile vials if you don’t wanna wait too long. I get some 20ml ones for making my own glutathione.

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Gotem69's picture

Yeah I'm gonna do rush I just got done lookin thanks brotha

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randomdude's picture

I don’t have an answer for you but sterile vials are cheap

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Gotem69's picture

Yeah good point I'm just being an impatient crackhead lol

Is your booty that cheap?

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randomdude's picture

Cheapest booty in the Midwest.

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Gotem69's picture

Mmmm come to the south

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randomdude's picture

BUSSY

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Gotem69's picture

Close your eyes it feels the same sometimes even tighter

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zorro2021's picture

There was a little bit of oil coming out from the vial bro. So you think by just filtering the the entire vial even though there was leaking a bit and put in a new vial would fix the issue,? I got new vials I just need to buy the filter needles.

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SeeOhShow's picture

Aw well that sucks about it leaking. I’ve had that happen in shipping and it’s just annoying opening a pack with everything slicked with oil.

Once it’s through a sterile 0.22um filter, it’s sterile. Any concern about getting an infection from the gear should be gone after that.

Honestly though, there’s not really any means for bacteria to get in there even though it leaked a little in transit. Not like it was submerged in water or some other liquid where something could have contaminated the contents. Plus it has BA in there, so stuff wouldn’t survive and proliferate in the oil anyway. Filtering would just be extra peace of mind.

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Leprechaun's picture

throw in the bin... who knows what kind of contamination could be there. and remember pmroids they are like a brokers. they are selling many brands, trust me they even don't know how the packages are packed and shipped. they r giving just warray for delivery, damaged products if u have video when opening package

zorro2021's picture

There are just a lot mix opinions bro, some say they are good by just hitting them up and some like yourself won’t take the risk, tbh I’m leaning more towards throwing them in the bin

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

The guy has negatively karma bro

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Gotem69's picture

I got some cloudy tren that I'm using the brewer has filtered 5 times during the process he told me its due moisture getting to the raws if I remember correctly he even refunded my donation bc he operated on a higher stands than any other sourced I've used in my life. I have also seen some yellow eq going around from another source that's not on here but it's do the the liquid raw I've seen pics the liquid it actually tested good so it's just a raw thing I'm assuming I can only speak for what I've witnessed personally.

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Pandateston's picture

Brother, @foreverlost4 said it perfectly already:

“The raw situation has been ass, a lot of mid products been hitting the market. We’ve been spoiled for many years lol. If you’re ever sus about your oils you can always refilter them with a .22 filter and put them into a new sterile vial. A little extra work and some extra $$ but will give you some peace of mind.”

And he’s right … this whole year China/India raw suppliers have been all over the place, especially with EQ, DHB, Mast, Test E and test blends. (You can ask @UncleYoked and other reputable srcs about it) Inconsistent melting points, higher impurity content, and raw powders that require more BB/BA than usual to stay stable. That leads to stuff like: Cloudy oil from micro-crashing, uneven fill levels, small leaks from pressure changes during transit, sediment or “swirl” when you tilt the vial, opalescent test mixes caused by temperature swings…

Now … to be fair … there are some small U.S.-based brewers who don’t have this issue. But if the raws all come from the same upstream supplier, even locals can get hit with the same inconsistency. Hard to know if it’s raw material issues or sloppy brewing overseas. I’m not Sherlock Holmes either, lol.

I mean…
This doesn’t automatically mean underdosed or fake … ironically, most of the weird-looking oils I’ve seen lately have actually tested fine in lab assays. The issue is more about raw powder consistency and solubility, not potency.

The real concern with cloudy or leaking vials is sterility, not whether the compound is in there. And that’s why the refiltering suggestion is legit … a 0.22μm sterile filter will remove any potential contaminants and micro-particles and give you clean oil in a new sterile vial. Peace of mind.

Now, being honest with you… IMHO
You can pin it as-is and you’ll most likely be perfectly fine. Most guys do. Cloudiness from crashing is not inherently dangerous … it’s just annoying and looks sketchy.

But if it were me?!?!
I’d either filter it or wait for the vendor to sort you out just to avoid rolling the dice with sterility.

No need to stress, though … this is a manufacturing/raw supply issue we’re all dealing with lately, not necessarily the source trying to cut corners intentionally.

But that’s just my 2 cents, you do you, brother man … hope they make it right for you fast.

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Unswolemuscle's picture

Since we’re speaking on this, any word on when this raw issue might be addressed? I know it’s been asked time and time again.
Just genuinely curious as to what’s gotta change politically and logistically for this issue to be resolved.

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Pandateston's picture

Bro, that’s the question everybody keeps asking and nobody can honestly answer.
This isn’t “supply and demand,” it’s China locking down raws, India tightening precursors, borders frying shipments, and labs staying quiet to survive.
Until geopolitics chill out, the steroid market stays unpredictable.
Anyone giving you an ETA is selling fairy tales.

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Unswolemuscle's picture

Bummer, let’s just hope things straighten up sooner rather than later. Can’t believe I used to take for granted how many reliable sources we used to have.

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Gotem69's picture

Nobody knows sources I use and talk to often are mentioning that there vendors are projecting after the new year that's just more word down the pipeline so who honestly knows

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zorro2021's picture

Thanks brother! That was some good info right there and everything you mentioned makes perfect sense, I will try to fix this matter on my own first and see if the cloudiness it’s because temperature issues, depending on what pm says I’ll go from there, for the leaking vial what would you do? Do you think by filtering that one as well would enough or not the case?

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Pandateston's picture

Now for the leaking vial… honestly? If something is leaking OUT, that means something can get IN … contamination risk 100%. Even if the leak is tiny, that stopper integrity is compromised. You can technically filter it as I mentioned up there, but that won’t fix a bad seal. And with gear, sterility > saving a vial. No point risking an abscess or infection over a few mLs.

If it were me, I’d ask for a replacement straight up. @pmroids A leaking vial is a manufacturing/handling flaw, not user error. Any reputable lab/reseller should replace it without hesitation, because compromised vials aren’t safe to use, period.

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pmroids's picture

Yes of course and I don't recommended to use leaked product and always reship with new vials so I sent PM to him to be sure it was leaked on shipping term or it was filling less then 10ml vials on bottle.

Anyway, I have 100% guarantee to get safe and 10ml vials as the products details..

Thanks Sir.

Pandateston's picture

All good, man … thanks for jumping on it and making it right. That’s why people trust you.

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press1's picture

Hi buddy - To be honest it looks fine to me, seen A LOT worse lately Lol Test is a little cloudy thats all and the level of the EQ is a little off - I've had all this many times before especially with vial levels and it doesn't mean anything. At least your Test doesn't look like Tren which a lot of it seems to be doing lately.

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What’s good ma man, I mean I remember someone posting the other day something about some cloudy gear from última and the comments were pretty interesting, i love this forum for the same reason, a lot of you guys have always some good info to share and in a lot cases some have gone through the same problem, i honestly never had to deal with this type of issue so thats why i was like nahhh im not injecting that into my body, 300-400 hundred dollars is not worthy to put your health at risk but I will try to warm it up and see if that fixes the problem.
Like always, thanks bro!!!!

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press1's picture

Have you approached the Source at all with these queries regarding the Test?

zorro2021's picture

Yeah I just did, just waiting on their response, they are always on top of it so I’m very confident I will get some good answers

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foreverlost4's picture

The raw situation has been ass, a lot of mid products been hitting the market. We’ve been spoiled for many years lol, if you’re ever sus about your oils you can always refilter them with a .22 filter and put them into a new sterile vial. A little extra work and some extra $$ but will give you some peace of mind.

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zorro2021's picture

Huh thank you man I never thought about that though, although we shouldn’t have to do that, it is no cheap specially domestic.

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Aggieguy's picture

The test mix may be cloudy from cold temperatures during shipment. Put them on a candle warmer and then shake them and see if it clears up.
As far as the vial that is leaking, yeah do not use it because it is not sterile.

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zorro2021's picture

Thanks brother! I will try that and in case that doesn’t solve the issue then that means contamination right? Have you ever dealt with cloudy gear?

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Aggieguy's picture

Yeah it could be contaminated if the cloudiness doesn't clear up. I have dealt with cloudy/crashed gear and others on here gave me the idea of a candle warmer and it works like a charm.

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

This is part of the reason gear is so expensive on these forums. People want this to be tested like it's amazon. And Amazon doesn't even do what these sources do. You get something messed up from Amazon is yours no refunds or replacements.
So you want free reship for packs I've yet to ever have seized got it, replacements any little bs problem like one vial being filled a lil more than another. And something wrong with 2 other vials of sust that have nothing wrong with them got it. Customer service like it's Walmart got it. Everything is marked up 5x. Just think of it as insurance. Most people won't even make a fuss over things just don't want to be bothered. They have to part for the few who complain about nothing though. It would be nice if there were options to opt. It of ask that and just buy your gear at your own risk. But the cry babies fucked that up for everyone already. Buying shit that's is illegal on the black market. Complaining. Go complain to your drug dealer. The official one not the bozo you grew up with trying to pay for his drugs by selling.

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zorro2021's picture

Thanks for your opinion — even though it was a complete waste of time to read. I’ve put thousands into this source and know what I’m talking about, while you’re over here acting like an expert with nothing to back it up. Amazon isn’t refunding or reshipping? Are you nuts, are you on other type of drugs besides steroids? and whether I complain or not is my problem, not yours. You don’t have to approve it. You don’t even have to be involved.

But you still chimed in anyway with an opinion that contributes nothing and means even less. Next time, try offering something useful — or just sit this one out. It would save both of us time.

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Nice

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zorro2021's picture

Hope you liked my response

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

It's what you think. There's no right or wrong response. It's what you think and it is what it is. If people start worrying if anyone likes their responses which i think people do then it's going to jade the opinions of the forum. Then it'll all be fake regurgitated bullshit.
Say what you say and fuck it. Everyone's got their opinion and in this here land of the United States. That's your right. God bless A-fucking 'Merica.

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zorro2021's picture

I respect that that man, I like this comment better than the previous one, don’t know why you unlike my post then Smile

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Well i still didn't agree with the post.
Just don't forget to update what the source does to resolve the issue. To many of these stories end up one side you hear the complaint. Then once the source does more than expected to "fix" the issue the individuals who made the post don't let it be known.

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