posted Sat, 11/22/2025 - 12:29
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+ 12 Jano reports for K4L test e and pharmacom test e
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After having some unfavorable total test values on bloodwork. K4L offered to pay for testing if I shipped out. But since it wasn’t truly blind I asked that they let me send 2 samples not disclosing which one was which until after the fact.
Sample A : Pharmacom test e 300mg batch #PHT300014EV
Sample B: generopharm test e 250mg batch #OOD11
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anvilAnd yet they are still sending out crazy orders, stuff is just crap. Just to much hit and miss for a 2x price and insane min order. But I guess y'all will keep paying and hope one day they will fully fill a vial or test well.
K4L is disappointing
Hell someone needs to send pharmaqo in that shit id love to see test on that. Their products have always been hit or miss for me. One time its good next time its crap.
Damn for the price I'd hope pharma was more accurate
The pharmacon test is within 5% of the label. That’s not bad at all. But k4L being 16% under is not very good. I think this is one of the first lab reports on k4L showing significant underdosing. Guess you out smarted them and Jano sending 2 samples.
Their clarus 300 C line tested at 225mg test and 25 mg mast. It didnt garner much attention, at the time, everyone was concerned with the underfilled vials.
That was some bs n yea like you said everyone was freaking out ab the vials really being 10ml everyone forgot ab that lol
I remember that now. That was really bad.
Imagine thinking you’re running 600mg of test n getting only 450mg. I knew for a fact around a year or so ago something was up when I used kits test. They refunded me so I don’t want to bash hard they did the right thing
Yes^
So Basically one is Bad (IMO) and the other is Diabolical ......
The Pharmacom of Old (8 years ago) would never of produced underdosed Test like this.
Kits are 17% Less ------ well what else would you expect .....
Yet they take the number one spot. Ridiculous
They get that number one spot because morons will vote for it just because they got some vials in the mail in decent time. I am so glad at those who have tested their products and shown us how under dosed and under filled their vials are. I for one will never order from this source.
A LOT of people that run gear have no idea what good gear feels like - they simply don't know what an accurately dosed, good quality Testosterone E feels like to have in them. Even DBol inject they don't know how it should feel the instant you inject it, seen countless good reviews of a DBol inject on here that has no guaiacol in it stating how good the pumps are and the weight gain they got, I have tried this myself and its absolute DOG SHIT. Nothing at all in it other than carrier oil. The only opinion I go off when it comes to great gear that I know works the way it should is my own.
I gave dbol a shot this year pumps and strength are great but, it gave me terrible palpitations. Had to stop after 2 weeks
I can sometimes get heart palps off it too, it can come and go. I think its maybe to do with the oestrogen increase but not too sure.
That is fucking horrible won’t be trying those brands!
Have some ultima and 76 that I’m gonna send out as well.
Hell yeah man please post the Ultima one. I have bloodwork from old batches and it seemed legit but I think their accutane is weak as fuck doesn’t do shit for me same with their Clomid
someone posted ultima test e, ive been using the same batch. 246.46/250 also nice pic lol
https://www.eroids.com/pics/ultima-enan-250-janoshik-results
Sweet I have 4 vials of that same batch
It’s not in your head brother …. Their Nolv , Adex , and Cialis doesn’t do shit me as well …. Even their test e seems off lately with this recent batch
Man, we’re definitely in the famine era. Every batch is underdosed these days …and I’m talking across different brands too. I miss the days when gear used to come overdosed like crazy.
Now I don’t know if it’s the ‘economy’… or just straight-up bullshit.
Btw thanks for sharing jano testing.
I sent you a friend request i wanted to get some advice if you are willing to share. I see your very active on here, jacked AF, let me know
FR accepted, brother man
The situation seems to just be getting worse and worse. I’m new to the game so unfortunately this is all I know
I got you…
Always stay sharp, brother man.
In this game, there are a lot of wolves dressed like sheep. Keep your eyes open, build real connections, and always ask for legit references.
We’re in the best review forum in the whole niche … but even here, a lot of reviews are manipulated by sources. Unfortunately, that’s the dirty reality of this underground world we’re all in.
But that’s exactly why you gotta be willing to “get your hands dirty” when necessary without ever compromising your principles. That’s what keeps you safe long-term.
Good luck on your journey, man. Stay solid.
Thanks for posting. Good call on the two different brand samples.
@Gotem69 @Milfpounder favorite source is legit
Love them my got to! We will call it harm reduction!
So grateful for this source
They are #1 for reason bro!
Looking a little under-dosed for K4L. business as usual for them. The p-com Tess is looking legit and I'm sitting on quite a bit of that. I'm happy daddy
@Gotem69 just can’t get enough of this place.
Yeah they can have all my donations
K4L 16% off lol wonder what there excuse will be? Machine calibration issues, Olivia or Ben’s titties distracting the brewers who knows.
Business as usual for K4L. Their vials stay on a calorie deficit year-round.
No explanation given just a good amount of store credit. In the future staying away as far as oils are concerned. Peptides and gh seem to be gtg.
Smart move brother and even for gh and peptides they’re overpriced. I used to think they were amazing pricing but in all reality just another domestic reseller.
Both of them r shite... Even phl, ok everyone will say it's in 10%, but company (phl) with such reputation shouldn't be so bad. Imho...
I’m not really sure of the variables that go into brewing test but with equipment such as precision analytical scales that are +/- .1 mg accurate.
Being 16% off is terrible qc 5% while not great seems more reasonable especially since FDA allows pharma companies +/- 10%
Well if you weigh out 100g of powder and it’s only 97% pure then you only got 97g of test powder. Now factor in that an entire batch can vary in purity % AND Jano has a 5% or so variance in results, then you can see how it happens. Thats why there’s even an acceptable variance. Dude above just doesn’t know jack “shite” about brewing.
Coming in at 285 with a label of 300 is perfectly fine. Bet he wouldn’t complain if it was 315…but would be the same piss poor brewing according to his criteria.
If u read ugl websites or other sources, they always r saying, " we always are checking raws before". It's mean stop talking rubbish, add more take less raws. Every knacker on street will do better job with any crystals.
That makes a lot more sense ! Thank you for the explanation. And yeah I’m not a fan of overdosed compounds either especially if they affect e2 levels. I was running one of K4L eq batches that tested at like 274mg (200mg) my e2 was single digits
I love overdosed gear. I just pretend like I never saw the hplc and go off of the label. I’m also retarded so there’s that.
the_escobarrIt wouldn't be right to call phl crap. There's a 5% gap, and I think that's perfectly acceptable. But K4L is seriously awful.
They r brewing for years-should be proper dosage. The r not newbies.For them who sells a lots of oil great profit even from 5% shortage in every vial or ampule. I hope sombody will do test for phl cypionate 250 as well, there are a plenty of rumors - very underdosed
What’s stopping you from getting it tested?
Last time I had phl 2022 ordered, I don't have on the hands nothing except farestos. Use to be my favorite ugl. First time I brought them from Russia around 2019... If they will have some black Friday offers probably I'll get few things.