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If we or Para Pharma faked the products with Test P, we'd never have it out of stock. There was a HUGE demand on this product and still is. We could easily sell the Test P as Mast E then. Why even take it out of stock if we could just sell Test Prop instead? The product is perfectly fine. Raws are tested pre production. And you have to look at what test does and what mast does, and compare what you're experiencing with that. It's not prop, it's mast.
Don't forget it was proven before: https://ugfreak.to/images/labtests/masto-e-200-para-pharma-us-dom-expres...
That’s a 4+ year old test. Given the current landscape of raws people would feel a lot better with current testing.
So a batch can't be good for 4 years now? Being 4 years old doesn't mean it's not telling for the current stock. Furthermore there's a solid track record for Para Pharma with all of the many lab results for several products, whether it's Primo, Mast, Test, Tren or some of the many orals in stock. You're welcome to check out the ton of labs we've posted and have published on our website.
Perhaps certain brands are only making a few hundreds vials. Para Pharma produces tens of thousands, each batch. We are selling several thousand bottles ourselves. The dates on the vials even show the expiration date is several years ahead. We have a ton of Para Pharma products expiring in 2028. Testing them in 2025, doesn't mean the same products are no longer good in 2027 or 2028, because the tests have gotten "old".
Not to mention, this is a roid test. That's a joke of a test. REAL LABS determine what the product actually is. Not these home testing kits, that are very unreliable and it's been addressed a dozen of times! Just take a look here, everybody's talking about how dumb these are:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/19f90bt/roidtest_results_...
If you look up online, even search assist claims:
"Roid test kits can sometimes produce unreliable results, with reports indicating that a significant percentage may yield false positives or incorrect substance identification. It's important to use these kits with caution and consider third-party lab testing for more accurate verification."
Using these, all of your Anavar will be Dianbol, all of your Masteron E will be Test Prop and lots of other things. We've seen soemone post a result showing Anavar as Dianabol and then another person tested the same product and it came as Anavar. You can even get different results on the same product yourself, for each test you make. So please, trust REAL LABS and please don't trust this crap and post bad reviews for any source based on that crap.
All good points @ugfreak, and I definitely agree that RoidTest ≠ real verification. Nobody serious uses color-kits to determine compound identity … they’re way too inconsistent. So on that part, we’re aligned.
The only real discussion here is about recency of testing.
Yeah, a batch can remain stable for years if raw quality and production QC is consistent … and Para Pharma does have that long track record, which is exactly why people trust it.
But the landscape has changed massively in the last 18–24 months:
• Raw suppliers shifted
• Costs changed
• Some raws have become harder to source
• UGLs worldwide have had to adapt
So guys aren’t doubting PP’s past, they’re just trying to confirm the current batch, especially on high-switched-raws compounds like Mast E and Primo E … because these are the most commonly faked in the entire industry. Not by PP necessarily … just historically across all labs, worldwide.
So the reasoning isn’t “that old test wasn’t valid.”
The reasoning is “the market is different now … refresh the proof.”
And honestly, this can be solved extremely simply:
No drama. No argument. No debates.
Just one updated certificate and this whole conversation ends permanently.
IMHO It protects:
• The brand’s reputation
• The source’s transparency
• The customers confidence
• And stops endless forum speculation
Everybody wins.
PP already has the reputation for being the lab that posts real lab work, so updating a Mast E & Primo E test once in a while is just maintaining the standard they themselves established.
Nobody here wants to fight.
We just want to keep the trust → proof → performance cycle clean.
SO…TL;DR:
• We’re not saying PP is fake.
• We’re saying the market has changed, so re-verifying the current batch is the smartest move.
• And it’s literally a single Jano report to end all doubt.
All love, brother man. No ego, no shade … just straight talk… bro to bro.
Thanks bro. We appreciate you chiming in. We don't doubt your intentions and all of that really isn't a problem at all. And shouldn't be a problem. You don't eve nhave to explain all of that. We're well aware a test will do all of that and we'll well aware of everything. While at the same time, a test from us will still be doubted by some. But there's no "we" here. OP isn't on the same page as yourself.
We're in this business brother and we're among the first ones to know about the landscape changing. However, changes made in the past months don't mean the products we already had in stock before that, are now suddenly not good anymore. People might want fresh tests, but ton of products are purchased in advance, and the current changes make people question the products. Questioning new products makes sense, not the ones from before the many changes in our opinion. However, there's several labs on the many products.
You might not be doubting it, randomdude may not be doubting it, BUT this is about the OP posting a result from roidtest and even posted a bad review saying it's fake. You see the issue? It's not about posting and asking if it's legit, if the test is to be trusted. It's about the same guy posting a review about it. He'll send it to testing at Jano, cool! But there's still a review made making it seem like we sell fakes, due to these completely joke of a test kit, and concluding " I do not recommend shopping here!". THAT is the issue. Along with the comment from OP "I now realize almost all the reviews for ugfreak look like bots".
That’s a different batch number. NTZU339 is the current batch most people have.
I agree those at home roid test kits are shit.
I don’t care about expiration dates.
My comment clearly states I have a sample in the mail for testing. It’s headed to Analiza. Should arrive by the end of the week.
I’ve purchased 32 vials of this mast from your site since July. The cost of sending it out for testing is small compared to what I’ve spent on gear from your site.
No reason for you to come at me that way. Relax.
Whether you care for the dates or not, doesn't change the fact about the dates friend. But not sure why you ask me to relax? Didn't come at you any type of way. You might be reading into it in a different way. You said the lab result was 4 years old and and we commented on that part, asking if they can no longer be good due to that. No ill will about that. The rest is about the roid test, which is commented on generally. Not for you specifically. It's all about OP. Did see you posting about testing it and also liked that comment. No worries!
It actually changes everything. You’re very aggressive and attacking people, arguing, bickering. People has every right to question and it doesn’t matter how long long you have been around. Whoever you don’t like is a bot, whoever you don’t like has no valid point.
The only person to mention bots was the person who made the test saying "I now realize almost all the reviews for ugfreak look like bots". We never called anyone bots, stop spreading lies.
Then go check your history. Even on your review page you call people fake/bot and ‘you don’t have valid points’ is your motto for people questioning you. There is no single review you didn’t attack if it wasn’t 5-star. There is no single review you’ve been solution and be nice. From now on I’ll live on your source page and I’ll call your BS out. I’ll show everyone how miserable you’re
lol! You're more than welcome to live on our source page and show how miserable you are with your free time.
Seems like ur getting a little overly defensive. OP didn't do anything wrong. Regardless of whether you agree with his initial route of testing, he (as well as all of us) have an interest in attempting to verify the legitimacy of what we are buying.
You could assuage some of those concerns by providing current testing for the batches you're currently selling.
Quit being a meanie to @randomdude. He's my little Sagittarius
OP did the wrong thing by posting a result with an unreliable test, which has years of criticism for not working well, and posting a review saying they don't recommend us. Yes, we're absolutely defensive about our reputation and having anyone claim something we sell is fake. An actual lab determines that, so the route of testing does matter 100%. If you're going to tell us the gear is fake, you need ensure you got solid proof. And he was already informed about those tests being unreliable but continued to make a review about it, not recommending us and also claiming our reviews are made by bots. You might not see a problem with that, but we certainly do. There's plenty of reputable users who have reviewed us over the years, now being labeled bots.
A meaniie? lol. Please read my response to him. No one's a meanie to him! Already made sure he knew it was all about the OP's test and not him. And he made it clear too, that we're all good.
You’re skipping over the part where that 4 year old test result has a different batch number. A 4 year old test is fine if the batch number is the same.
When it comes to expiration dates they don’t bother me. I’ll use it beyond its expiration date.
Maybe I misread your tone in your post. That’s the problem with communicating via text.
We’re all good. Thanks.
Because your initial comment didn't mention the batch, but only how many years it had been. It was only mentioned in the later comment and that's fine. We're looking forward to prove this batch solid as well.
For sure. We do agree with you on that.
No worries brother. Agreed! All good!
Mast doesn’t really lower E2. It can mask some high E2 symptoms. That being said I currently have some of this Mast from the same batch in the mail for testing.
It could just be that he’s pinning more test with his test instead of mast, but mast also increases free test since it lowers shbg which would thus provide more substrate for atomization and increase e2. could be a stretch tho
I was more surprised that whatever this is raised it double. I’d love to see those results.
UNIT_whats the carrier oil used in para pharma?
All of the oils on our website contain Benzyl alcohol, Benzyl benzoate and Miglyol 812, a pharmaceutical grade MCT oil, to make it smooth and nice.
Hello everyone, we hope you're doing well! Thank you for your continued support and love.
Sad to see the 40% off go down to 30% along with some price hikes. But I guess that’s just the state of the AAS market currently.
Placed my order 24 days ago, still no update on shipping. Starting to get nervous. I obviously see all of the amazing reviews so I have faith. But it’s like an 800 dollar order and I’m really praying it goes smooth and delivers before the 31 day mark. And if it does end up not coming in that time period I hope even more that they reship as promised. Has anyone else had prolonged shipping times since this gear shortage?
Did everything work out? I went past 31 days no tracking updated no delivery an they said they would send a new tracking number and ship this week and i would get it asap but its friday and havent heard anything. Now they stopped responding for the past two or three days of me checking in via my order messages below my order. I been a loyal customer so im hoping it gets resolved i really like UGFREAK they have been EXCELLENT so far with all my other orders.
Still nothing for me. I am also past 31 days, and they keep giving me the run around so it seems. I’m really let down so far. I spent over 500 on this order and this is my first time dealing with them. I even told them I’ll pay twice if the package arrives twice. This is cutting into my prep now and messing up everything for me. So I’m definitely upset
Ive been ordering with them for a year never had any issues this is the first time. Mine was almost $500 also. Really unsure whats going on but it needs to get sorted
Update: My stuff just got reshipped! So hopefully yours as well will be sorted out soon. Im confident in that
Yup! Mine just reshipped as well. Just got the message today. I’m sure it’ll get here soon
You’ll be taken care of brother. Ur in good hands. Talk to ticket department on website. Don’t you have tracking number??
Been going back and forth with them on the ticket bullshit. They keep saying different things. Basically anything but an actual solution. Super frustrating especially with this being my first experience with them. I’ve been using napsgear for over ten years and they always solved any problem immediately. And those problems were extremely rare. I just hope it comes and I didn’t get ripped off