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Hi and welcome to UGFREAK!
We finally took the next step and came to eroids, however can see some of our UGFREAK Family memebers have already made sure to speak UGFREAK, our T/A, Para Pharma gear and so on. Appreciate it fam!
We're glad to be here and we thank everyone who supported us, for your support.
Thanks for stopping by. If our website is not answering enough questions, get at me here and I'll get back to you guys.
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Alright not gonna argue about it, I have always been satisfied with your products and still is, so gonna leave it with that.
I’ve been getting monthly bloodwork to monitor my baseline levels while running 50mg of Test Cyp daily. At that dose, my estradiol came back at 70. About two weeks ago, I started PP Mast E 200, and I just got my latest labs back from last Friday - my estradiol is now 141. I’ve heard that Mast E can be fake with Test Prop, which has me wondering what’s going on. I’m still waiting on my total test results to come in, but in the meantime, are there any other markers I should be looking at to help figure this out?
Primo 100 I got just tested as test prop
Them tests are known to fuck up, plus you joined 19 hours ago and you post this straight away.
Probably one of the most tested labs PP. Great way to fuck up a long term business replacing it with test prop. I doubt it giving there history.
Jano test way to go
Why are you attacking to an user? Are you working for the lab? It’s between the lab and their customer. His account age has nothing to do with it. He doesn’t have to create an account. Maybe when he saw a problem and decided to create sn account. What’s wrong with that? Stop being a lap dog. He has every right to question.
Why you attacking a user? Maybe hes been here a while and seen bad tests and corrupt lil kids. You got that as your second account??
It happens here all the time, accounts show up on day and start bashing sources etc. Claiming they ordered, gear was bunk.. Just to hurt sources. That's how people look out for bogey accounts.
Since seem him comment here, he seems genuine and is sending stuff off to be tested.
Working for source lap dog lol. Have a look at my touchdowns and comments..
Source has been around a long time and is trusted and only had positive things to say about PP products and Ugfreak..
Appreciate him sending sample off to be tested
You hit the nail on the head, I’ve never needed an account bc I’ve never commented on anything. I just came here for information, you can read all the comments without an account. I created the account to respond to the guy who’s estradiol doubled.
First time getting pp and first time using ugfreak. Roid test has always worked good for me for testing testosterone. This is the first time I’ll be running primo or mast. After the results come back from jano it will show that the roid test I used is garbage hopefully, and maybe help someone else in the future after they see my experience with it
Be nice to see testing, fairplay helps everybody out
Herd back from jano today, it’s 120 per sample to test. Idk how long test takes, hopefully I’ll have results for myself and anyone interested in a week or two depending on how long test takes
Appreciate you sending to jano bro. Looking fwd to the results either way.
I will say UG and PP both have very good reputations, so I'm expecting them to be legit. And I'm a dodgers fan, so I'm usually right.
I went to see the Dodgers when I was on holiday as a kid. Absolutely loved it, great experience and crowd.
Dodgers are gay af
GO GIANTS.....lol
The GIANTS?!?! That's like comparing tren to fruit juice. The Giants suck.
Fuggedaboutit
That's awesome man. I miss what southern California used to be.
Have some family over there. Been a few times but not for many years. I can say the same about London mate, it’s changed so much. I miss the 90s LMAO!
I was a little kid and teenager in the 90s and it was the best. Music was the best, movies were the best. People weren't taking dumps on the sidewalk and shooting heroin in public.
Bring back the 90s
From your lips to Gods ears mate
PP is legit … especially if you got it from verified resellers like UGFre#* or TeamRoi#*. (Does not mean bad batches and mistakes could not be made IMHO)
I totally get why you’d question it, though. But personally, I don’t trust those simple color reaction tests too much. There are too many variables (carrier oils, solvents, stabilizers, etc.) that can change how the oil reacts, so it’s not really a reliable metric on its own.
If I were you, I’d spend the $80-ish and send it to Jano or Analiza for proper testing. That’s real peace of mind.
If you do go that route, make a full post with the results … pictures, explanation, everything. It would be super valuable for the whole Eroids community and you’ll get positive karma for helping everyone understand what’s what.
That’s just my honest take … you do what feels right for you. But at the end of the day, documents > opinions.
And with lab results in hand, you can actually open a respectful and solid conversation with any source if needed.
Good luck, brother man !
I’m sending my primo and mast out to jano, I’ll post the results. Ugfreak has time to post on here about my comments but not reply to my messages directly to them.
Our service isn't reserved for you 24/7. We get back to all of our customers within 24 hours usually. Also, eroids and ticket support isn't the same staff either, so your point is invalid. We're sure you got your replies, which you indicated in your review too.
Thanks for posting. How legit are these tests compared to Jano?
No telling. Im going to send it and the mast E- 200 I got out for true lab testing. On the roid test kit both come up as test prop. I now realize almost all the reviews for ugfreak look like bots
"I now realize almost all the reviews for ugfreak look like bots". That is such a crazy remark. You tested your products with a unreliable crap test like roid test and suddenly, our reviews are from bots. Such a disrespect to the many users that have contributed to this forum. Perhaps you're paid by competitors, if they're all bots? Absolutely horse shit of a claim! REAL LABS determine this product, not crap like roid test or labmax.
Just take a look here, everybody's talking about how dumb these are:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/19f90bt/roidtest_results_...
If you look up online, even search assist claims:
"Roid test kits can sometimes produce unreliable results, with reports indicating that a significant percentage may yield false positives or incorrect substance identification. It's important to use these kits with caution and consider third-party lab testing for more accurate verification."
Using these, all of your Anavar will be Dianbol, all of your Masteron E will be Test Prop and lots of other things. We've seen soemone post a result showing Anavar as Dianabol and then another person tested the same product and it came as Anavar. You can even get different results on the same product yourself, for each test you make. So please, trust REAL LABS and please don't trust this crap and post bad reviews for any source based on that crap.
If we or Para Pharma faked the products with Test P, we'd never have it out of stock. There was a HUGE demand on this product and still is. We could easily sell the Test P as Mast E then. Why even take it out of stock if we could just sell Test Prop instead? The product is perfectly fine. Raws are tested pre production. And you have to look at what test does and what mast does, and compare what you're experiencing with that. It's not prop, it's mast.
Don't forget it was proven before: https://ugfreak.to/images/labtests/masto-e-200-para-pharma-us-dom-expres...
That’s a 4+ year old test. Given the current landscape of raws people would feel a lot better with current testing.
So a batch can't be good for 4 years now? Being 4 years old doesn't mean it's not telling for the current stock. Furthermore there's a solid track record for Para Pharma with all of the many lab results for several products, whether it's Primo, Mast, Test, Tren or some of the many orals in stock. You're welcome to check out the ton of labs we've posted and have published on our website.
Perhaps certain brands are only making a few hundreds vials. Para Pharma produces tens of thousands, each batch. We are selling several thousand bottles ourselves. The dates on the vials even show the expiration date is several years ahead. We have a ton of Para Pharma products expiring in 2028. Testing them in 2025, doesn't mean the same products are no longer good in 2027 or 2028, because the tests have gotten "old".
Not to mention, this is a roid test. That's a joke of a test. REAL LABS determine what the product actually is. Not these home testing kits, that are very unreliable and it's been addressed a dozen of times! Just take a look here, everybody's talking about how dumb these are:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/19f90bt/roidtest_results_...
If you look up online, even search assist claims:
"Roid test kits can sometimes produce unreliable results, with reports indicating that a significant percentage may yield false positives or incorrect substance identification. It's important to use these kits with caution and consider third-party lab testing for more accurate verification."
Using these, all of your Anavar will be Dianbol, all of your Masteron E will be Test Prop and lots of other things. We've seen soemone post a result showing Anavar as Dianabol and then another person tested the same product and it came as Anavar. You can even get different results on the same product yourself, for each test you make. So please, trust REAL LABS and please don't trust this crap and post bad reviews for any source based on that crap.
All good points @ugfreak, and I definitely agree that RoidTest ≠ real verification. Nobody serious uses color-kits to determine compound identity … they’re way too inconsistent. So on that part, we’re aligned.
The only real discussion here is about recency of testing.
Yeah, a batch can remain stable for years if raw quality and production QC is consistent … and Para Pharma does have that long track record, which is exactly why people trust it.
But the landscape has changed massively in the last 18–24 months:
• Raw suppliers shifted
• Costs changed
• Some raws have become harder to source
• UGLs worldwide have had to adapt
So guys aren’t doubting PP’s past, they’re just trying to confirm the current batch, especially on high-switched-raws compounds like Mast E and Primo E … because these are the most commonly faked in the entire industry. Not by PP necessarily … just historically across all labs, worldwide.
So the reasoning isn’t “that old test wasn’t valid.”
The reasoning is “the market is different now … refresh the proof.”
And honestly, this can be solved extremely simply:
No drama. No argument. No debates.
Just one updated certificate and this whole conversation ends permanently.
IMHO It protects:
• The brand’s reputation
• The source’s transparency
• The customers confidence
• And stops endless forum speculation
Everybody wins.
PP already has the reputation for being the lab that posts real lab work, so updating a Mast E & Primo E test once in a while is just maintaining the standard they themselves established.
Nobody here wants to fight.
We just want to keep the trust → proof → performance cycle clean.
SO…TL;DR:
• We’re not saying PP is fake.
• We’re saying the market has changed, so re-verifying the current batch is the smartest move.
• And it’s literally a single Jano report to end all doubt.
All love, brother man. No ego, no shade … just straight talk… bro to bro.