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That’s the usual progression.
That test p price is damn nice! Are you still receiving test p raws? Is it only Test e and c that are hard to find? If short esters are more available then I sure as shit am gonna be switching to ED injections! 3mL shots per day! Yeeaahhhhhh buddyyyyyy!
I prefer test prop - running 200mg EOD on a mass phase right now - I know people say test is test but prop just hits different for me. Enjoy slut.
Some esters of some gear do indeed hit different.
Idk what it is but it’s true even though on paper doesn’t make any sense lol placebo or not I’m rocking the prop!
nope, we just have some excess and want to ease the burden on folks
Freddy-BtownRecently got prescribed blood thinners to help my heart to keep pumping been staying off the gear and keep my test low but can I even be on blood thinners on trt I see a lot of things saying absolutely not but tbh I’d rather have test than thin blood unfortunately
I had a pulmonary embolism myself, went on eliquis fir a bit til heart specialist said you can come off. He also said you can stay on for life if you like as a PE event tends to be something that can come back again. I stayed on the eliquis as there are no sides.
I run trt dose 7 months and a cycle 5months. I run bloods through Quest typically 5 times a year with a few extra heart tests added in for good measure. My heart specialist who I see once a year gets copies of everything and says they look great. Off record he said trt is fine. On record he would not sign anything for a clinic, which lead me this route. I'm in better health now than ever. Pull a D-dimer test twice a year, get your liprotein (a) tested twice a year at least, pull Fibrinogen twice a year. Stay on top of cholesterol. If it's high incorporate niacin with a flush, gun for 1500mg a day, i am using 2000. It brought me down from 100 to 74.
I cycle with test, gh, primo, npp.
My man even if you came off everything and stopped lifting for 2 full years you can bounce back in like 1-2 mass phases and like 1-2 diet downs. Health > then you can at least get TRT and HGH.
You’re playing with fire my bro
Freddy-BtownWhat am I supposed to do stop test all together I need it :(
Dude there’s a difference between needing test for a medical reason and needing test because your “needing” it to be a gym bro. If you “ need “ it go through a dr and get an Rx for it and get monitored by your Dr on it.
Personally, and it’s just me, I would work closely with specialists and let them work up a protocol. Let the physician consult with your endocrinologist, and go from there. If you don’t have a cardiologist already, you will be adding one to the mix soon. You’re going to get great advice on here, take it. In your situation you do not want to fuck around. It’s not worth having a great physique and looking good in a casket. Give it some thought my friend, we’d prefer you to stick around for a while.
2nd that not worth the risk I see it to often guys say I wish I could of gone back and done things different when it's to late.. don't be one of them bubba.
The blood thinners are prescribed to prevent blood clots.
I am on blood thinners too, as well as a cholesterol medication.
TRT should be fine around 200-250 per week.
Dude you’d rather stay on the blood thinners, instead of a blood clot giving you a stroke or worse bud.
So...a cycle doses which raises hematocrit??? And cycle levels?
I gotta be honest, I always thought trt was sub 200mg a week. Which is what I think your saying. I've been hearing more of this lately where people are saying trt can be 250-275. Personally, I think people are getting crazy.
@sandman3698 my trt is 75mg and 850test levels at blood test time. People just back rub the non informed into full time cycle. Long term it will mess you up.
Some dudes are going to run sauce regardless of what anyone tells them. And that’s pathetic and sad actually. I mean 90% of the forums on this site are nothing but Bro science bullshit cycles from people who are fucking with people or who have absolutely no physiques whatsoever. He bro take 600 of this and 700 of that and hey add 400 of this. All strictly bro science. What works for you won’t work for me or vice versa.
Honestly there’s absolutely ZERO reason for most of these dudes to be using as much shit as they do just to be gym bros. But most assholes think more is better which is never the case.
Hey man when you or I stick a needle full of gear in our ass and take that first shot that’s on us at that point. No excuses. Nobody can cry to me or you later and say the shit fucked me up. Well no shit!!!! That’s the risk we all take taking gear.
I am fully aware of the risked I take, and I’m willing to live with that risk. If others aren’t, then don’t ever start taking juice.
Anyone with an existing heart condition that chooses to stay on gear in my opinion is an idiot.
But when people make excuses and far fetched reasons to try to stay on gear they have more problems than anyone on this site can help them with dude.
@Tat2man so warn em and write em off. They return broken. Maybe they listen but most dont. Ive trained ifbb pros who are on our site. The rest...lost...do your best
Freddy-BtownSo what should I do is 175 still too much I unfortunately can’t stop test 1 I was actually diagnosed with low test quite a few years ago and even if I wanted to I think it’s too late I’ve used anabolics for 2 years never using hcg or enclo just test and other shit never really high doses I think my biggest cycle was like 10 dbol 300 eq and some test
If people don’t know the risks of taking anabolics, they shouldn’t start doing it. I’m not the dude to come cry on a shoulder when the drugs fuck them up. Not my problem dude. They were warned that if shit goes south don’t cry to me about it. Not gonna listen.
That’s cool IFBB Pros are on this site. The amounts of gear they take is for a reason and a purpose of winning a competition and having a career in bodybuilding. They know the short amount of years they can take gear for before it fucks them up. But the gym bro who take gear to just try to impress their gym bros and buds those people are simply clueless when it comes to not overdoing taking grams of gear for absolutely no reason. More isn’t actually better for regular Joe’s in the gym. So when they do go psycho over the top with the gear, fuck em. That’s on them.
I have ZERO sympathy for them.
My personal opinion TRT isn’t for guys who scam and crash their test and get an Rx for test. TRT is suppose to be used for guys who have depression, low sex drive, fatigue, muscle loss, mood changes, etc. the dudes that say they are on TRT that go to the gym are full of shit. They use the system to get test for vanity purposes.
A lot of us who use PED’s are using for vanity and to look better. But I’m not using the TRT umbrella to lie about why I use gear.
Freddy-BtownSame I genuinely needed test I didn’t even start getting pubes til 17 1/2 lmao but I do tend to like to push it into higher ranges!
I honestly think it's people confusing cruising with trt. Like yeah, you can cruise on 250, but if your test level is significantly above ref range it is not replacement therapy.
Yeah, I have 2 friends here where I live who are on TRT with Pharma prescribed Test C. They both take 250mgs per week split up between 2 shots, 125 mgs each.
For people on TRT, doctors monitor hematocrit levels. If levels become too high (e.g., over 54%), they may adjust the dose or recommend blood donation.
Freddy-BtownThanks man!
No problem man.
What’s your definition of Trt?