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+ 7 6 months before and after

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24 wk cycle
250mg test e wk 1-12
500mg test e wk 13-24
Ed subq injections
No ai needed
230lbs on the left to 190lbs on the right

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Well done

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bloodgutsngear's picture

Thanks bro

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Ccacc's picture

Hell yeah bro, you should be proud of yourself and your new life. Be well !!

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Aggieguy's picture

Very nice, I wish I would have taken a before pic but man I love the transformation.

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bloodgutsngear's picture

I just uploaded 2 fully clothed pics at 270 and another after pic.

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bloodgutsngear's picture

Thank you bro, I appreciate it! I have some older pics at my heaviest but I'm fully clothed. I guess I can add them to the post.

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Aggieguy's picture

Way to go man, that is quit the transformation. I love seeing people better themselves.

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Waltdisneysbum's picture

Very nice

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bloodgutsngear's picture

Thanks bro

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Waltdisneysbum's picture

I forgot the upvote, take two!

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Dixon_Credible's picture

You're blessed with the E2 staying in check at 500mg. Excellent progress!!

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Thanks bro, I appreciate it! Haha I know, I've run up to 1g of test for 12 weeks with no sides. Never got any gyno, hair loss, acne, etc. My bloodwork was good too.

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Asa's picture

Damn, pretty incredible! Got them lats and shoulders locked in bro!

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bloodgutsngear's picture

Thank you bro, I appreciate it!

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irongame427's picture

Huge transformation man. Great work. Wonder how much better results would have been if you manned up and stuck to needle in your muscle lol? Kidding, kind of…. Absorption of the test is typically much higher IM vs sub q. And aromatization is typically much lower. But, daily injections are the way to go.

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Thank you bro, I appreciate it! Lol, yeah you're right about the injections. This was my first cycle. I've switched to IM since then. The absorption is a lot higher and more effective. Personally I've never had a problem with aromatization. I've taken almost every compound that aromatizes and can cause gyno. I've taken them all at fairly decent dosages and never gotten gyno. I've never had to use an ai or serm in my life. Every time I get bloodwork my estradiol is always below 15. Also my test levels on 500mg test e subq were:
Total 1800
Free 660
Bioavailable 1360

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irongame427's picture

Below 15pg/ml with no AI? On 500mg of test? If so that’s unheard of. And kinda sucks actually for bulking. You may need to look into how to boost your estrogen. I don’t think I’ve ever uttered those words before lol. But in mass gaining phases it’s ideal to be more like 40-50. Even cutting I wouldn’t feel good at 15. But I’d look pretty good.

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I know its so weird. Every time I get my bloodwork I'm hoping to see a decent number instead of "<15" I've even run up to 1g test for 12 weeks with no aromatization. In one sense I want all the benefits from moderately high estrogen while trying to add mass and strength but also I don't need to ever worry about taking an ai or serm that we know is very bad for your health. I also have an easy time holding onto size when off everything, not sure if low e2 has something to do with it. I also can confirm the test is real based on bloodwork. My natty test levels were 230 total test before ever touching anything at 24.

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irongame427's picture

That’s crazy man. Definitely real test. 1800 is on the higher end of where id expect you to be on 500mgs ew injected subQ.

One explanation is you genetically have very low levels of the aromatase enzyme.

It’s odd that it just shows <15. I wonder if it’s missing something or not actually testing for it. I haven’t personally seen a low end cap on estradiol, it’s always a cap on the upper end of the range. I’ve accidentally crashed mine before and the test showed it being 5pg/ml. And man did I feel like shit then.

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The link below is a screenshot of my estradiol. The description mentions and recommends getting an "Estradiol, Ultrasensitive, LCMSMS assay" is that a more accurate test that most people use?

https://postimg.cc/Tpc7RC75

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Maybe I'm getting the wrong e2 test done then. I'll upload my bloodwork sometime soon to confirm I'm getting the right test done. It's always so difficult getting my doctor to order estrogen bloodwork for me, even if I tell them what I'm taking.

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