Anxiety/Discomfort. Need insight and advice Pls.
If anyone can provide insight as to what I am experiencing, I would greatly appreciate it. I don’t want to thread jack another dudes thread.
Going back a month or two. I had 3 episodes with high BP, high anxiety, no sleep, and overall discomfort. 1st Time-few hours, 2nd-couple of days and 3rd-lasted a week. All 10 days apart from each other. There is a thread I had made about it that has labs. I cleaned everything up that I was doing, stopped for a week till I felt right again. The following week I started Test E @150mg/wk again, the week after-300mg/wk. Last inject was 12/21 with 75mg. Starting yesterday morning 12/23 at 3 am, I woke up feeling odd and rolling into today, it keeps getting worse. Restlessness, anxiety, lack of sleep, exhaustion, emotional, water retention in legs, I took 25mg Aromisan yesterday but don’t notice a difference. I have a bunch of Ai, pct, AAs on hand. I’ve read so much different stuff. I just need some insight as to what might be going on becausei am new at this and if this how AAs/trt is for me, I have to stop. Doctors don’t have answers, ER won’t do anything, and it’s a holiday.
Thanks in advance to anyone that takes the time to read this.
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Thank you, definitely interested in grabbing these supplements.
If you suffer from anxiety those things will greatly help you. You can even try things like focusing on higher reps when you work out.
I’ve never had an issue with anxiety like this in the past, it’s only been since I started test and it comes in random episodes. I think I have it nailed down to high estro. After taking the Ai and supplements, it’s knocked it down dramatically and I feel almost normal again. I’m nervous about my next couple test doses but I am closer to being dialed in.
I've got same issue. Have a mild anxiety from time to time my entire life. Throw some test, deca, and tren in on it and it will definitely impact anxiety. My attacks are sporadic like yours. Was so bad one night had to go to ER at like 3 in the morning. Gave me 2mg of ativan and 15 minutes later was back to old self. I now have ativan prescribed and have some in cabinet in case I have an attack. Doesn't matter the supplier it is the test, tren and deca.
Cycles are always positive at first and after you've done a few you get issues like anxiety and depression.
Do you think this is dose, compound or duration dependent? Or do you think it’s just a side effect of running gear? I’ve ask because I’ve only 4 cycles, all under a gram of gear, and never ran 19-nors but the inly cycle I had any issues with was my first one. I crashed my e2 on like week 4 and then had high bp the last couple weeks from high hct. Ever since I got my e2 and bp management dialed I’ve been really stable emotionally on cycle and would like to keep it that way if possible.
That’s good to know. It means I really gotta get this dialed in now so I can be good for the future if I want to keep running gears. I find it crazy how good everything can be going but how fast it can change.
Those are some good choices to look into; one thing I’ll caution is avoid biotin at any supplement level dose above RDA within at least a week of any labs, particularly hormone and immune lab assays are incredibly thrown off by biotin. It has lead to so much b misdiagnosis and even deaths. It’s just gonna raise and lower the standard hormonal panel values in predictable ways for our purposes, but I it’s been a major issue with any doctor and every endocrinologist I have worked with as a patient and had labs out of range I couldn’t explain or expect and you have to literally direct them to the FDA’s general professional public service warning about the issue, and even that hardly states the issue clearly. Anyway, a small aside re: biotin when you get in the B-complex mentioned above. Else, hope you’re on the mend and feeling fine now, brotha!
Thank you for the info Brother, definitely doing much better than I was. I’ll post an update tomorrow as I keep an eye on everything. My last bloods were thrown way off from training way too hard before the draw. I’ve often wondered about supplements affecting the panels. Appreciate the info.
There are a lot of more experienced guys who can or have below given good advice but here’s what I would suggest, in this order (assuming you’re currently only running test and don’t have, like, impending criminal charges or something that you should have anxiety about):
1) Get bloods: 99% chance to solve your issue. Testosterone, sensitive e2, cmp and cbc at minimum. I’ve had similar symptoms with high e2, low e2 and high hct so without testing there’s no way to know why you’re feeling this way. My opinion is if you want to run gear you should get bloods every 3-6 months year round and more when on cycle.
2) more frequent injections: I like ED shots even with long esters. This is controversial but I think I benefit from the mire stable blood levels. I also think it reduces PIP, eg when running prop or DHB.
3) adjust AI timing: same as above. Try splitting your asin up and taking fractions of the pill daily or eod.
4) adjust diet: I’m thinking specifically sodium and carb intake. Both of these affect people wildly differently and can cause all sorts of trouble. Also, it’s free and, if you’re like me, something you’ll need to figure out over months or years to get what really works for you down.
5) drop test dosage or pct: obviously this is not ideal but you gotta take care of yourself and get your shit in order before you can use these compounds safely and effectively.
I hope this doesn’t come off too much like I think I’m some gear expert because I don’t. This is just stuff that I’ve tried and has worked for me. There’s already a ton of good advice in this thread but I hope this helps.
1) Got comprehensive bloods on 12/4/24 and other back in August. Plan on getting more because that’s the only way to monitor this correctly.
2)Initially started at 1x/wk, then split to 2x per week then went to 3x MWF per week, possibly planning to try Ed or Sub Q.
3)Splitting Ai dose is my plan. I hadn’t taken any till this and I think I need it and to try other types.
4)Diet got a msssive adjustment 4 weeks ago because I had problems with Sodium/Hydration/Lipids/Etc. still making improvements.
5)Have everything needed to potentially PCT and stop with all this despite all the great progress and great well being I felt beforehand. Or try to run lower doses and cruise. For the last 2-4 weeks.
I really appreciate the input man. Thank you.
Nice, looks like you have a plan at least. I’d try to change only one thing at a time so you can see what works and what doesn’t. I would bet that you’ve crashed your e2 based on the dosages you’ve mentioned but there’s no way to know without bloods. I don’t currently have insurance or a PCP (long story but there was a dispute with my wife’s employer over benefits) so I just order labs online to make sure everything is in order. Wasn’t your e2 pretty high a few weeks ago? The first time I saw triple digits I immediately crashed my e2 and spent the next couple weeks feeling like you describe in your OP. It just takes time to work this stuff out.
Shit. That’s going to be rough if I did that. Yes a few weeks ago e2 was at 113. I haven’t had many Ai, only in these circumstances. I order labs online too but it is very costly. That’s how I did it last time. How did you crash your e2 that time. I’m hoping that’s not what I did. I don’t see how 2 doses of Ai would crash it that fast in a matter of 36 hours. Unless I’m completely mistaken about those time frames
So we can get a clearer picture of what you have taken, write down a list/timeline of the last 3 weeks up until today with compound name and dosage - everything.
Eg:
Week 1 Monday Test E 300mg
Week 2 Tuesday DBol 40mg
Hospital was: 12/2/24
Nothing for the next week.
First week: 12/8/24-12/15/24
160mg Test E
12.5 mg Dbol(12/15)
Second Week. 12/16/24-12/23/24
300mg Test E
50mg Dbol(12/16-12/17)
I dont get this, you doubled your test and 50mg dbol the next week?
You're just playing with your hormones at that point. So random.
Yes. Back in October, I ran 400wk for 2 months no issues till Nov 24(planning 12 week cycle). Technically the test does would be 160, 225, and the 75 starting the next week. And it was supposed to be Provi but it was double labeled and it was Dbol. As I understand, Provi helps with estrogen? Or so I thought.
These are the last things you have taken? When was the aromasin? Last Test E shot?
My input also on other things, I really don't think that on the small amounts of Test E you are using you should be using any AI at all - that could easily be causing you anxiety, and aromasin is also a strong one, stronger than Adex. Aromasin on that amount of Test should be no more than half a tablet every 3 days I would of thought if even needed. Dianabol is an Anxiety inducing steroid, especially the tablet version. Injectable builds slowly and isn't that bad for it, but tablets taken for 3 days in a row causes anxiety and nervousness - not quite sure what is the single reason for it but a combination of blood pressure increase, HR increase, water build up around the heart meaning it has to work harder, the testosterone base feeling of it coupled with bolting oestrogen etc makes it a tough compound to tolerate at times despite it being thought of as beginner stuff.
Best antidote for anxiety is training mate even though at first it can make it feel worse, you will feel better halfway through the session and afterwards. It gets rid of the excess energy and relaxes you. I doubt you want to stand in a gym feeling like this currently so do a few sets of press ups till failure, some bodyweight squats and holds, and parallel wall squats holding as long as possible (these are proven to be the number one exercise for lowering BP due to the fact the muscle constriction traps toxins in the blood - then the bodies blood vessels dilate and flush out the toxins).
The only remedy I’ve had for these situations is training, walking, cardio, hydration etc. I have to be moving. This time around my Bp hasnt come up. Only alittle bit to 130/90/90.
I had the same thought with the test numbers being low that why would you take Ai. Also with the Dbol, this is happening 5+ days(25mg-12/17) after the last does and 4 days after the last test dose(75mg-12/21). I laid off the Aro until this issue occurred because it feels like high estrogen/emotionalism and that’s what I have, that or Nolv. I didn’t realize Dbol wasn’t a beginner oral, I thought it was way more friendly than that.
Might be the sudden spike in hormone levels test-e gives. I have the same thing, test-e im gives me anxiety, subq doesn't. Have you tried more frequent subq injections? Might be worth to try.
I haven’t tried sub q. That is very interesting what you said about test e IM giving anxiety. I wondered if my body was converting the test too fast? Or idk wtf?
Could be. Me personally I react very fast to anabolics. It sounds like bullshit to some people but it takes a few days for me to notice the effects of a new compound that im using instead of weeks. I'm a hyper responder with hyper side effects response aswell lol.
But the anxiety thing is something I didn't have before, when I started at 26 years old I could inject 500/750mg test with no anxiety issues. If I'd do that now I'd be an anxious mess.
But I have that with everything including medication, I have adhd and I use waaay less than what other needs to feel the effects of the medication.
These days I keep my test subq and other compounds that dont aromatise IM. This keeps anxiety at bay for me ymmv ofcourse.
That’s interesting, when I started the test initially I noticed changes that first week(not gains but changes). When I tried Dbol the other week. I noticed a difference within an hour. When I tried other stuff, I would notice changes within a day or two. Maybe it’s hyper sensitivity. Maybe I’ll try the sub q thing and see if there is variations or lack of. Thank you for that insight.
Aro lives a very short life. Its suicidal which for a high converter to estrogen, is needed. Aro is daily imo.
Sounds to me like roids are not for you. Unless youre taking bloods often to see exactly how youre body reacts. Then you know outright whats happening right now.
Dont tell your Dr youre injecting illegal street drugs!! Thats whats seen by their eyes/ears. And if it lands in your charts you can permanently lose health insurance.
What was your estro last time? And your bumpin up doses to me is trash thinking from 1985. You cant control estrogen throwing more fuel on fire. Hit your dose and thats it.
You dont lose insurance for drug use. Every junkie that lives ina state with free healthcare has insurance and openly tells them they use drugs and they tell them in detail how they inject them with dirty pond water straight into their heart, and no bats an eye. Inmates are setup with health insurance before leaving jail. Maybe some sort of private insurance may give you a hard time but I’ve never heard of such a thing. I still don’t recommend telling a normal doctor, if your on the ER And you think it’s related to gear then I’d be honest just in case it helps figure out what’s wrong but other than that there’s no benefit for telling on yourself.
Insurance covers detox and rehab, do you think that the insurance company thinks they are lying for people who DONT use drugs to go to rehab. lol. In some cases you need to actually prove YOU DO use drugs to get covered
free healthcare
I work. I have healthcare thru providers. They will ding you for having issues using drugs made in someones kitchen.
I agree, when I'm having some fucked up shit with my health, I am 100% honest with the dr, especially when I can't explain what's going on. And I was a junkie 15yrs ago and told Dr's about my drug use and have health. insurance now and had it then. The only issue I've run into is life insurance. If they find out you have a history of illegal drug use, they won't cover you. At least that's the reason i have been denied coverage in the past
I’ve done bloods twice. Once before but only CMP and Test Levels and a second time 6 weeks Comprehensive which I posted. That’s the other issue. I don’t have insurance or PCP so I haven’t a had a solid doctor because no one wants to deal with me. Estro last time was 113. I don’t understand the “suicidal” marking for Aro. Meaning it eliminates the estro completely?
I saw below dbol. Dbol will spike estro. Using provi will spike estro. Dbol aromatozes. Provi var winny--the orals lower sbgh which frees test. More free useable test skews conversion a bit. If youre hitting everything in the sink youre negation of learning is stopped. Folks preach test only so you know test only. Plus if you cant grow on test only then everything else is flawed. The gym, foods, rest etc etc. The magnifying glass up top can get you fast learning. From seeing all this you should stop. Learn first. Then use science.
Privatemdlabs quest etc. Theres whole forums on places that test with links. You should know suicidal and aromasin versus arimidex. Half lives of each. How they work. What youre doing sounds misearble af
That is the thing, before I started all this I spent weeks reading the boards and learning as much as I could. I would go back and reread the same things over and over to try to retain it. I know there is differences between Adex and Aro. I’ve researched half lives of everything in my inventory. I made sure to have everything needed for any issue. I’ve read about Suicidal Aromatase Inhibitors, I’ve watched videos about DHT, receptors, Aromatase. Thats why I am posting, I’m not a medical doctor so I don’t fully understand all these processes within the body. Ive seen everyone experiencing things on both ends of the spectrum for every compound, cycle, or substance. Here I thought provi will help keep estrogen low because it doesn’t Aromatize? I’m not a seasoned veteran with this, been at for not even 3 months, done labs twice. Make great progrss and feel great otherwise, but I have these random episodes that I don’t understand, and on top of it I cant get medical professionals to want to address it. Am I a fucking retard for trying other compounds or an oral on test only cycle? 100% yes, ya got me. I own that. But I’m knee deep in it right now and have no choice but to ask the only reliable people I’ve come across in this field.
Your a high responder and estro spikes possibly. I buddy of mine was highly sensitive to estrogen and had same exact symptoms. Taking aromasin "yesterday" isnt going to magically fix your estrogen over night. Id say lower test dose or give aromasin time to kick in and bring your estro down. But you have some other conditions that maybe need a doctor. Leave out the testosterone when you see them so they can test whats really going on and not say "its the testosterone" and possibly send you home with an unrelated serious health condition.
When you say high responder, does that mean my body breaks down the test quickly, or is it the fact that with test introduced into the body, the other auxiliary process like estrogen kick in faster/harder? And as a byproduct, I’m converting to e2 faster than normal? And for Aro, I’ll take a consistent does Ed 12.5. I don’t know how fast these things will counteract and that is nerve wracking. I never had any other conditions in the past. Every time I go to the doctor they say everything looks great. Even during the last episode the ER said I was good and to come back if so and so happens.
Could be yes, yes and yes. Hard to tell which one. All are fixed by controlling your estro. I can do 300mg of testosterone and not break 85 in estrogen. My boy can take 150mg in testosterone and his estrogen is too much to bear. He would be up all night and all kind of other anxiety symptoms he never had in his life until he started testosterone. Thats why never copy another one AI dose or their testosterone dose. Learn your own levels through bloodwork or self determination
You basically just described my situation. The timeline doesn’t match the injects either, it just happens when it happens. I never had this happen until testosterone either. Without any Ai I guess it’s just a matter of when the symptoms hit. Also I know Ai is something you want to run minimally at all costs so I’ve been trying to avoid it. In my mind, it is extreme emotionalism happening underneath which leads me to needing estrogen control. Thanks again Pumped
Told me story he had to leave house 2am and walk the neighborhood. Lile real bad. He takes .25mg every 3 days of arimidex(or is it .5mg?) for his issue and he has been on his self prescribed 150mg/week for over a year now with no problems. But still have doctor clear you of everything else first to be safe.
This is exactly what I’ve been doing all day. Walking the neighborhood in the freezing cold weather to relax. Getting to a doctor is on the list. I noticed today after taking the Aro yesterday and today, there is much less water in my legs and hands.
Man I'm sorry to hear you're going through this it's never a fun time. Unfortunately there's just so many factors that can contribute to this type of condition.
The high blood pressure issue would be my most concerning. You could be dehydrated and or holding on to too much water. Some trt users face a rocky road in the beginning. If you are holding water in your legs, that is definitely concerning. You could have a possible pre-existing condition with your heart. But who really knows except a qualified doctor. You may want to look into different dosing protocols. Such as, ED subq injections. Personally I use 10 mg per day of testosterone cyp. So no need for an AI and it keeps my hematocrit and hemoglobin in range. How long have you been using gear? Try to post a link to your thread with blood work and or history using gear. If it was me I would start out light and go heavier in time as you adjust to the hormone fluctuations.
How long have you been on trt? If it's been a long time then there could be other factors playing into this. For one, long-term trt use has been known to be a cause of adrenal fatigue. That's no fun. 2-3 gram vit C per day can help stimulate the adrenals, or the need for prescription intervention which calls for hydrocortisone tablets. You would need an endo for a ACTH stim test. Along with long-term trt users, they can possibly face tanked pregnenolone. It's very common in long-term trt users. Along with that I also asked to have DHEA checked.
Aside from the hormone use, when dealing with anxiety it is good to have your iron checked. Ask for an iron panel. That will include your ferritin, transferrin, iron saturation and serum levels. If you are too low or high in range this can cause a lot of mental and sleep issues.
There's just so many possibilities it really takes some hard work to get to the bottom of things. For instance I had an MRI done of my heart in the spring, that was with contrast which used gadolinium. I woke up the next morning with my pillow covered in drool and I was shaking in tremors, including the worst panic attack I've ever felt in my life. This would last all day with dizziness spells and feeling extremely anxious. Not one doctor was able to get to the root cause. I figured it out myself and corrected the issue, which was MCAS. My body was going through constant histamine dumps along with adrenaline dumps following. So now I take an Allegra-D 24hr each morning and pepcid AC morning and night. These are H1 + H2 blockers. I've also included a first generation histamine blocker called Benadryl. The dye free liquid kind. I take two of those at night. My issue was also diet related. I've had to make some big changes to overcome this. So the contrast which was given to me and the MRI machine have both been known to cause mast cell activation syndrome. No fun. When I mentioned it to my doctors after 5 months of pure hell. They said they never heard of it, and we're surprised that I was able to alleviate my symptoms on my own. I had turned down their suggestions for psychologists etc and different medications they wanted to put me on. Treating the symptoms is great but there's always an underlying root cause. But in your case I'm just completely guessing here that you are new to trt somewhat. Some people just don't jive well with it unfortunately and the last thing you want to do is dig a deeper hole. If you are able to attach your blood work here that could really help to a degree. I don't think any of us are doctors here but some of us have been around the block a few times. Everything is a balancing act, taking the right steps and approach is crucial to obtaining the optimal health you seek.
It's hard to just throw darts at the dart board and hope to hit a bullseye. I've been through it. There could be an underlying cardiovascular issue due to poor circulation. Holding water in your legs is very concerning. That's a Hallmark of heart failure. As in general holding on to any extra water from the trt could only be making things worse and lowering the dose or coming off completely is the only way, besides taking a diuretic which I don't advise. I'm really sorry to hear about what you're going through but there are just tons of factors that can contribute to anxiety, poor sleep, restless legs syndrome. Also at another point I was super high in folate, but I was very low in B12. Some people have a gene mutation in which they need to take methylated b vitamins. That's how I fixed that.
Are you taking any medications? One of the reasons my condition became so bad over the summer due to the mast cell activation. Was because I was taking a heart med called metropolol. This medication is known to lower dao enzyme in the gut. And that enzyme is responsible for gobbling up histamine in the gut. I always looked a little flush red, had crazy anxiety and restless legs along with essential tremors. Until I got things sorted out my life was a living hell for a good portion of the past year. I'm not trying to confuse you any but just give you inspiration or incentive to really dig deep and explore all options of how the human body works and how you can balance things out so that you can enjoy a fruitful life. I wish you the best of luck brother. Along with everything I had going on there was a large component of OCD and ADHD which were really fueling the fires. A good medication which seems to kill the ruminating thoughts with also a sedative effect and helps control blood pressure as well as ADHD. Is Clonidine. I take that at .1mg for three times per day. I was able to find a huge sense of relief from that one medication alone. But I'm not suggesting this I'm just sharing my experiences concerning trt. Just remember it's about balance and try not to hyper fixate, that alone will have anybody on the ceiling. Just enjoy your holidays and loved ones and at some points I play on a low volume amygdala calming videos on YouTube during my sleep. I wake up feeling very refreshed, I'm not a big believer in this frequency thing but 432htz seems to help. But remember a lot of things have a placebo effect. Some things work at first but then taper off. Personally I look for the paradoxical effect. Where the opposite happens at first because your body is trying to find homeostasis. I'm going to pray that you find relief. Blood work is very helpful in many regards. I would also strongly advise to be checked for sleep apnea... Wear a pulse oximeter all day and monitor your oxygen, they have one that will record it in your smartphone during the night while you sleep. That alone can cause a huge can of worms and trt has been known to exasperate it. I forgot to mention that mast cell activation or having high histamine in the brain or blood can also be caused by smoking butts, alcohol, diet, exposure to environmental things like pesticides, and of course trt is known to cause the activation syndrome. I highly doubt that's your case but mine was very complicated and very debilitating. So many people are put on anxiety meds and in reality they just have high histamine and or low iron. Or too high of iron. Personally I haven't had much anxiety from very high estrogen I've had it in the hundreds. But I do know that if you crash it, that is pure hell so be careful with high dose AI at once. Better to take a quarter tab per day for many days, large hormonal fluctuation swings are a huge cause for anxiety and or restless legs. And if your shbg is super low you could be metabolizing the gear super fast. That's also something to consider. But remember take what I say with a grain of salt everybody is different! But as stated get that BP in control, first thing is first. As we get older our nitric oxide production goes down. I'm not sure of your age but some people in the medical field considered nitric oxide being the holy Grail when it comes to why people develop all sorts of symptoms or disease. Taking a NO booster alone brought my levels back into range in a month and I was able to ditch the BP meds.
Sorry for the long-winded post, holy shit lol but that's my insight on the matter. Keep at it, It's a new year coming up. You got this! Be well bro.
Here is a link to previous labs and issues. A lot of those symptoms are not an issue currently. I started with all this on 10/4/24. I’m new to all of it.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/test-results-after-bp-issues
I really appreciate you sharing your experiences even if some don’t correlate, I still wonder how people respond to different situations and it lines up with the fact that there could be outliers. The symptoms seemed to calm a bit this morning but I can garauntee I am in the clear. I have changed dosing schedules to 3x a week. Still haven’t done subq,
I’ve had iron in check from previous test. The other major side I have from this is sinus/nasal blockage which I take Allegra D every 48 hours to keep that free.i haven’t had any preexisting heart conditions. My legs are definitely holding water. I was thinking of trying to switch to short ester tests as an option.
I’m not taking any other medications other than supps like NAC, Milk Thistle, Asprin81 but only if I need it.
I really appreciate all the info, I do think there is a chance that sleep apnea is being caused by the change in hormones. I will be looking into that and N O as well. Like I said. I feel way better than I did this morning, not sure why. I just hope that trend continues.
Oh np bro! Okay well one thing to remember is take breaks from the nac. It's best to cycle that one also. Long-term consistent use can have negative effects.
Another thing to remember is that when carrying a high platelet count, keep a close eye on your hematocrit. You're at the top end right now which is okay. It can creep up with long-term AAS use. Say if like you were a 55 or above along with the high platelet count that could be a danger zone for microclots. I was able to fix that situation with a low dose ARB medication, (type of BP med) brought my hema down several points over the course of a few months. Although my platelet count was in the normal range so I didn't have too much to worry about but (220) it's when you have high platelet count along with high hema + hemo, that is definitely stroke territory always something to remember.
The holding water primarily in your legs is still concerning honestly. Other than that yeah take it slow, you're on the right track a shorter Ester might help with that. But yeah sub q daily really has been a godsend for me. Although be it there were so many brands that I just did not do well with and would have reactions. Luckily the latest gear I have been running which is domestic I've had great success with sub q. Anyhow that's great news that you're feeling better these guys are probably right and you're a bit touchy with the higher E2. Definitely bring that down some and see how you feel. Hope you enjoy your holidays and here's to a fantastic New Year!!
Happy holidays to you to man. I appreciate you taking the time.
I’ve only taken NAC a few times, the hemo markers on my last test were in range surprisingly despite me anticipating them being a problem. The water retention I guess is a bigger problem than I thought. I’ve already started the process of changing brands and trying other options to rule out variables.
I did wonder about that also - edema in the legs is normally an indicator of Kidney problems. Dbol can also make you hold water in the legs but in my opinion he hasn't been taking it consistently enough to cause that, as soon as you drop it for a day or 2 it all drops out also.
Yup, the water has been there since the 3rd or 4th week of test back in October. I thought that was something that happens and you can’t do much about it. I’ll have to learn more about that and how to remedy it.
Are you taking anything else? That's how I felt when my prolactin was high. My RHR was in the high 90's.
Nope. I took Dbol two days thinking it was Provi(Label mix up), that was early last week. Test E only. Test will spike prolactin? Or was it from something else’s?
My issue was from hgh. I haven't heard of Test E raising prolactin. How's your heart rate?
Your estradiol is high on your lab test. That can cause anxiety.