posted Fri, 11/01/2024 - 19:12
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Can I build muscle and lose fat at the same time on only 150mg?
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Currently 8 weeks into my 150mg/week TRT regimen. Never been on any other ped in my life. I got on because of low T, low libido, plus just being tired and exhausted all the time.
I’m getting a bit puffy from my bulk right now so gonna start doing a bit of cardio. Can I build muscle and lose fat at the same time because of the TRT? I want to keep putting on size but I am also getting a bit fat.
5’9 185 lbs
475 g carbs , 200g protein, 75g fat training days
250g carbs, 200g protein, 85g fat non training days
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Being able to lose fat and gain muscle is more a product of how extreme your energy reserves are. If you’re fat, then yes you can build muscle while being in a slight caloric deficit.
There isn’t a drug out there that can make you lose fat and gain muscle while in a caloric surplus. That’s simply not how the body operates from a thermodynamic standpoint.
To do this successfully you have to really, and I mean really, be on top of your diet. Knowing exactly how much you need to maintain and cutting ~250 cals per day off that mark.
The easier and more efficient route is to just cut properly and forget this “recomp” shit. You can maintain all your current muscle on 150 mg/wk and lose substantial body fat quickly even without doing everything perfect. Cut for 6-8 weeks. Drop 10-12lbs of body fat. And then go back in to your bulk.
There isn’t a drug out there that can make you lose fat and gain muscle while in a caloric surplus. That’s simply not how the body operates from a thermodynamic standpoint.
What about trenbolone?
Doesn’t matter. If in a surplus, and doing resistance training, your body will put on muscle and fat. Tren might just make that ratio more favorable to muscle. That’s the whole point of AAS. More favorable nutrient partitioning. You put on more muscle than fat (especially compared to a natty), but you still put on both.
I guess except for the scenario where you eat exactly to the calorie all your body needs to just build the muscle you damage while training. But even in that theoretical scenario, you get 100% lean gains but still not lose fat while gaining that muscle tissue.
Being exceptionally fat is the only scenario you can build muscle while losing fat. Drugs don’t have anything to do with that. You just have so much extra energy stores that while in a deficit your body can get the energy it needs from your fat stores, combined with dietary protein, to rebuild the muscle damaged from training
Recomps are possible for new lifters or those who are just running gear for the first time. When I got on TRT (200mg/wk), I put on serious muscle and lost like 40 pounds. I ate in a serious deficit for like 6 months for that recomp.
Born in 1999?! You can accomplish that without PEDs. Research and dial in your diet/training. Just going to hurt yourself
Where does that logic come from where is he going too get hurt at all if the man can afford too run the shit and do it the right way i see no problem if he’s going too be on at 35 why not 25 you think gear is more harmful than fucking Alcohol or other drugs people are doing relentlessly everyday with no benefits look at those people health markers bro legit don’t known how they are even surviving the human body is a fucking unit of a machine!
It matters because it is a well known fact that everyone who was born in 99 is gay. The ones who were born in 99 and have a Transformer as their profile pic are even gayer. Totally kidding! I do see what smurf is saying. I do think it is better because most 25 year old do not have their diet and training down. It is better to wait as long as possible. Dudes do actually drop dead from AAS. But this dude has already started TRT.
Just going off his profile history, stats, and question. You can do that without steroids… just a few days ago he was asking why he hadn’t made progress at 6 weeks into being on 125 or 150mf/wk…. The mindset is wrong & dangerous so trying to promote research and harm reduction as always
People drop dead From anything lmao guys dying from aas are legit over doing the shit outta of it chasing a dream if trt or whatever you wanna call it in any range that’s improves his everyday life and sense of well being and he’s living the life style all a win for him.
Just cause you can doesn’t mean you should. Sure you can compare whatever, but the question is dumb, the history is dumb, and he got an answer.
Don’t hurt yourself thinking about it!
I promise I won’t hurt myself I’m so upset lmao
where is your mind at it ain’t that serious “big daddy”
Exactly it’s not that serious lol. This forum is about harm reduction… if you’d take the time to read the rules or anything else you’d understand that buddy!
Ahhh you’re born in 99’ too… you’re running a ton of shit so I’m sure you’ve already messed yourself up for life, and this topic is hitting home for you. Steroids are not some magic drug. You should have everything else dialed in and be at your natural maximum before starting tons of stuff, which I guarantee YOU were not.
Buddy up there gotta better chance of dying from over drinking water then on 150mg wk if he’s telling the truth that’s all I’m saying your saying he’s going too hurt him self and you've yet state how he’s any danger!
Too early to type it all out, but your ignorance speaks volumes on your knowledge. Another kid who probably doesn’t even get bloods and is taking years off instead of adding them on….
I’ll leave you with this- at 25 do you think ANY doctor is going to instantly prescribe exogenous Testosterone that will leave him shutdown, infertile, and never back to natural production again? Fuck no. There is countless drugs and methods to restart and remedy. I can tell by the ways things have been said this is through his doing and not a endo.
Your tryna shit on the guy he’s tryna improve his life your right I’m wrong my bad I think he should just drop it all! Big daddy the professor drop the wisdom for us young bucks.
Maybe just do it the CORRECT and SAFE way? Re-read and try again buddy! I’m sorry you take all this shit and look the way you do
Hes a returned troll....
Your so hurt the kill shot lmao I’m tryna wonder all this shit I’m taken as well I love the way I look sounds you like you don’t drugs work on my body fantastically when I’m doing it the “correct and safe way” lmfao
In a promo for free gear
Look at your TD’s. Doesn’t even know the difference between your and you’re…
Grammar police one of those guys yikes yea look at my TDs I’m glad the drugs don’t do shit it all about food and lifestyle you’re brain dead test mast tren most common aas and dick pills I’m way over doing it I know scary lmfao.
Hey man you do you… don’t encourage that shit on others though. Blasting Tren and not being able to bench 225 must hurt huh…
Man I’m proud you learned the difference between the forms of Your/You’re in the last comment!
Maybe you should spend more time training your brain over your body. Clearly you need that much more.
I’m taking 250 for 8 but I’m glad 225 is your benchmark maybe when I first started lmfao I never even tried anything over 250 don’t see any point what does any of that matter how much you lift is pretty irrelevant too all this I’m glad you know me tho goofy ass clown.
Smurf with the killshot!!!