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+ 6 GK Bloodwork June 2024

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Been on Gorillaking test cyp at ~150mg a week for like 16 weeks now. Ran a little experiment because some wanker, who shall remain nameless, cough @press1 cough gave me shit for microdosing my trt with every day injections. So I tried MWF for the last 16ish weeks.

The quest bloodwork is GK test Cyp (250 mg/ml) 50mg, or 0.2ml, on MWF. Bloodwork collected last Friday morning before my pin for that day. Only running test and HGH. No clue why my free is so high. No high E2 sides.

The labcorp bloodwork is from early 2023 running my pharm test ~200mg/wk doing ~0.14ml or 28mg every day with 1/2” slin pins. Not subq. 1/2” gets shallow IM for me. Especially in the quad. I just bounce back and forth between the quads when doing ED with 30g 1/2” slin pins.

As to be expected, ED injections can allow you to run higher dosages with less aromatization. So it’s not necessarily a waste to do ED injections with long esters. Especially if you don’t mind the ED sticks.

I’m going to switch from using my doctor for trt and use GK’s test Cyp from now on. Last time I went to my endocrinologist, they ran bloodwork with a different lab than they usually used. New lab wasn’t under my insurance apparently and the doctor sent me a surprise $800 bill for that bloodwork. After a couple months fighting with my doctor and insurance, my insurance agreed to pay it the one time only. The doctors response to me was “well you should have asked if the lab work was covered under your insurance.”

Well asshole you are under my insurance and this has never been an issue before, so why would I randomly ask this time if you’re using a different lab??? In short, fuck that doctor. Don’t need him anyways if I can get stuff from GK that’s just as good as my pharmacy stuff while also being cheaper.

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Sorta sucks you can't compare the same lab companies to each other. That would have been the best way to compare as labs so give different results. I had labs from Quest and my hospital done the same day and not one lab from my hormone panel was the same. Not saying these are way off but this does give you at least a little look at the difference

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SeeOhShow's picture

Oh I have about 14 tests through Quest. I just had to go back a ways to get one on every day pinning on my pharmacy test. I just didn’t want to compare UGL to UGL. People usually give more validity to comparisons against pharmacy stuff through a Dr to UGL

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Mac12769's picture

Nice labs bro. +1
I’m about to change insurance too with my lady’s new job. See what labs they’ll cover and won’t. ugh.

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23Sparta's picture

Did you check SHBG? Maybe why free test is high. I would assume it’s recovered by now if your T-levels have been within the reference range for 16 weeks, but you never know. Also, GH can lower it as well

Goodstud's picture

There was a domestic lab on here who put proviron in his test to give everyone a better free test result. Having more free test is really what you want as that is the amount your body will use. As long as your E2 is in check keep them free test being high is good.
Should also say some clients of ours get TRT therapy even though there test levels are normal because they have no free T to use. Total test is nice in all but if you have no free T readily available then you won't get the benefits of TRT therapy.

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Goodstud's picture

Never went back to look on that comment and I don't need to post a pic of me with identifying features plus for my 2 jobs I can't believe what you believe I don't give a shit but my private life and safety is more important than proving to some guy I don't know and don't give a shit about because of jealousy or to appease you. Also don't need to listen or care what negative people on here think. I come here to help educate people about safe use and learn from others. Also HGH will affect the way your body uses insulin over time and can negatively affect your A1c levels. I assume that's what you were trying to say that it doesn't affect the way your body uses insulin over time? It most definitely affects blood sugar levels That is what I was talking about. I have had to stop GH because of that. No
Also I am not on here everyday maybe once or twice a week if that. And I only neg dangerous or false information that's it. So to me that is perfectly fine.
But the reason I don't get in here anymore is the Rustyhooker guys like you on here who IMO ruin this site for people. Now this is just my opinion but we don't need more Rustyhookers on this site. I am sure he is back under another name but one is enough.

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press1's picture

One of your jobs has you working in a Hospital right? Smile

Goodstud's picture

Huh? You want me to add the 4 inches taller I really am to my profile or the 5 lbs lighter I am now? What do you want buddy? It isn't about being cool it is about not being an asshole and acting like you or run this stie and your word gospel. So bro if you come on a page just to comment at me then Wow?!. Anyways bro have more important things to do and once again you see and hear what you want to. Be positive and support others on here don't pick and choose. RH is gone bro and you don't want to RH#2 Have a great night! May God bless you

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23Sparta's picture

Chris Bumstead off season stats…. 6’1” 264lbs

Goodstud's picture

He is big mofo.

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23Sparta's picture

Maybe he’ll spill the beans on a pod cast with Steve

23Sparta's picture

It’s not big deal to post a pic, that road is well paved

23Sparta's picture

Just adds some credibility and I respect any and all who post up

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I agree that high free test is great, but imo not at the expense of a crashed SHBG. You lose out on other anabolic pathways. For me personally, there is a sweet spot. 400mg aas, single digit SHBG, I’m not growing (and feel like shit). 200mg aas, 20-25 SHBG, I grow (and feel great). Everybody is different though

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Yes you don't want to crash the SHBG it controls how our body uses these hormones and is very complex. Certain AAS can lower it Proviron, Primo, Var. Bloods and unfortunately we need that frequently to get the best results from cycles to make sure all of are levels are in the right range Ever check DHEA and Pregnenolone levels? Men who been on test for a long time and don't take HCG usually have low levels of those and can feel lethargic and have the Brian fog. Those are actually neuro hormones that for many can drop. That's why after a few years some guys feel just not the same as when they first got on test.
Also many need to know a good or slightly higher then normal E2 levels on cycle will make growing so much easier. When we drop it joints hurt and gains are nil. We can have E2 higher then normal when we have higher test be sue the body loves to be in a certain ratio. But in your overall comment each person is different but certain things still apply such as having free test being in anabolic state and trying to keep SHGB levels in the proper range

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23Sparta's picture

I see you edited your comment to include that fact of how important SHBG is. I’m assuming you watched the video I sent you. That’s what Eroids is about, we’re all trying to achieve a common goal, and help one another out.

See? It’s not as simple and basic as…. High free test good, low free test bad. My bro, who’s first cycle bloodwork I’ve been posting…. His natty total was 972 and free was 14. Yet, he looked better than the vast majority of steroid users that I’ve seen. How did he achieve that physique with only 14 free test?

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Actually I didn't but I will check it out. I have to reread some stuff I write because I don't always write what I think I write ADD or something. I just wanted to make sure you knew I wasn't disagreeing with you and make sure others are aware to. It is very hard to dial in ones hormones once they go out of wack. Also one point is genetics is a major major player in ones ability to achieve looks. Not saying hard work and diet doesn't pay off but certain individuals just don't have the ability to put on pounds of muscles and still live a normal life and healthy. I have a hard time with some patients dialing in their perfect hormone dosages. Some guys take months and others I have taken a year or more with different dosages and meds to get them where they want to be. I always have the owner and Doc to help guide me.
But like you said Definitely not as basic as total test of 4009 dam I am going to get big as hell or why do I have a limp dick with a 4000 total. Or my E2 is 100 I need an AI when on cycle. Have had some guys not need AIs and others need one on low doses TRT. But it is always great to hear others share their knowledge and help educate others on here. I have even been wrong about patients in the field and had to change on the fly be aue what worked for others wasn't working for this guy. In the end we can say one shoe size doesn't fit all. Also I want to make sure people have to realize genetics plays one of the most important roles in what we can hope to achieve as some just don't have the bodies or the abil6to get big and function healthy in life

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23Sparta's picture

And we stay pushing

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWplHYgzIgk

Yes, again, I agree that high free test is great. Im just in the same camp as Vigorous Steve, that if it’s high due to the fact that you crushed your SHBG, then you’re missing out on anabolism.

Excellent point about DHEA and Preg. They are in my year round supplement stack.

Expectant point about E2’s contribution to growth

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Most definitely the body loves to be in this perfect balance where ratios of test to E2 to DHT and free test. Unfortunately there isn't one medication that will make you get bigger while keeping everything in balance. .plus 1 for the knowledge 23

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23Sparta's picture

Agreed, it as balancing act. Kinda like playing whack o mole. Although it is possible to achieve an optimal and harmonious state of high anabolism. We all have our own unique blueprint for that to some degree. Just gotta figure it out and when you do, know that it cannot be maintained forever

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The downside is the shorter life span of highly muscular people and taller people due to all the extra strain put on heart to meet the needs of our body and other factors. If we play our cards right and be healthy as we can and actually be preventive in Western Medicine then we can live longer better lives. Bodybuilding to some degree is not healthy but it can be if we do it right.
I don't know about you but living long and healthy is my goal. I no longer want to add mass just maintain and keep making little improvements. My body is already getting broken down from previous jobs and joints taking on to much stress.

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23Sparta's picture

Agreed. That’s yet another balancing act. Quality of life vs longevity. I always have that in the back of my mind and it definitely needs to work its way to the front. I enjoy being a little bit bigger than nature intended, and I plan to give myself a few more years to expand on that, as safely as possible. Afterwards, in my own best interest, I’m gonna shrink down to something a little more manageable in middle age and beyond

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I’ve always had high free compared to total. Blasted my pharm stuff once and total was 2700 with free at 1200.

Biggest thing about these tests is how much lower the E2 is with daily shots vs 3x a week. Smaller spikes leads to less aromatization.

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23Sparta's picture

Yeah that’s definitely true, micro dosing = less aromatization. Appreciate you showing that through bloods. Something for guys to consider… you can manipulate your E2 through injection frequency. Very useful information.

Also, imo, another big thing about your post is the fact that you cruised, pulled off a brilliant cut, maintained muscle mass, all while staying within the reference range. That’s motivation right there, for me personally, because my scary ass thinks I’m gonna wither away to nothing if I’m not supraphysiological

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It might I tried the sub q and all I can say is that shit hurts. I prefer once a week when on TRT or 2 times a week when I remember to pin. I hate pinning so I will never do everyday but if it works for you then do it. As for me it didn't work that way for me.

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SeeOhShow's picture

It wasn’t sub q. I’m not really an advocate for that method. I’m fine with shallow or deep IM

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SeeOhShow's picture

I did not. Full work ups with stuff like that I usually do on cycle. When running the low dose for trt/cruise I just do CMP, lipid panel, psa, test, e2, and complete blood count

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press1's picture

Hey Babyface - It was done purely outta Love, the new guy Ass-Kickin initiation phase to see if you have what it takes to talk the shit with the Eroids crew LMAO Lol

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That's because in your picture post you looked like you had a considerable 'Package' under there - but I ended up bitterly disappointed.

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But did I get to see Drexs wiener back then???? Lol

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Drexyl's picture

Next pic will be of the stiffy

press1's picture

I Double Dare ya ...

Drexyl's picture

It’s too soon, and if I do I’ll be getting PMs from guys want me to meet up with their wives. I’m no stranger to that…

press1's picture

The question is more 'would it have made you stay? LMAO