+ 1 Toxicity Question
Hello everyone. I have a question regarding liver toxicity and other negative sides that "aren't worth the risk". I've been on Test C for nearly two decades with about a year off in the middle. I have run two small test cycles in the past between 400-500 mgs a week. I toyed around with adding a small amount of Tren for a couple of weeks the first cycle, and uses dbol for a couple weeks on the second cycle. The tren was outrageous even at microscopic doses. I honestly thought I'd end up in jail if I didn't stop it because the rage was insane. I will say I liked it as long as I had the right outlets for the energy if you know what I mean.
Fast forward... I keep trying to find something to add to my HRT, or to run as a small cycle, that isn't harmful to my liver. I don't have major issues, but I also don't have a perfect liver either. I'd prefer to steer clear of anything that is going to negatively impact it.
What compounds besides Test meet this criteria? I'm actually open to help with muscle growth or cutting or both.
Thanks in advance!
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Primo isn't toxic like you're thinking. Just expensive.
Primo slightly toxic?
And yeah there was a debate awhile back about what were best primo dosages. Alot of folks need 600mg or over but I know of guys that didn't need that much. It depends on genetics is what I'm thinking, especially with this type of mild compound.
Glad you seek advice. I gotta say this is another example of Tren being used with first cycle when it clearly should not of been used at all for first cycle. And glad you admitted the jail part as that puts it all in perspective. Honestly I always said first 2 cycles should just be testosterone but other advice would probably be more helpful to you.
The sad part was that it was literally one line on a typical syringe too. Like ..a tear drop worth once a week. At the time, my wife and I had a girlfriend living with us. I was exhausting both of them and still wanting more. I felt like a machine with limitless stamina. The night sweats were not cool though. It all came to an end when a guy put his hands on the girlfriend at a bar, and I turned full green before I even knew what happened. I knew I couldn't control it, so I stopped taking it. I felt amazing on it though.
Omg....this dude said he was exhausting both wife and girlfriend lol. +1 just for that alone!
I promise you your honesty is appreciated. I think more newbies thinking about running tren need to hear the jail part and how emotions can be changed in a blink of an eye.
Hahaha. I have a high motor and desire as it is. The tren was like rocket fuel.
I do agree with you though. I have a good friend that keeps trying to get me to buy him Tren. I flat out refuse to do it because I know he'll end up in prison. Notice I didn't say jail. I've heard plenty of people say they were fine on it. I'm actually not a violence first person. I try really hard to remain calm, but I know the beast is lurking inside. If you are a person that has that instinctive "killer" inside you... stay away from the Tren. Hahaha
I've been in this game awhile myself and have stayed way from it. I look at it this way, whether a drug or hormone like tren, if it alters my thinking to where there's a chance I could do something violent and then later wonder why I did what I did then I can go without that substance that made me act a fool lol.
I've always found NPP to be very liver friendly, so the same should be for Deca too. I am becoming more convinced that certain Carrier oils are better for bodily organs than others too - I can't categorically prove with bloodwork this is the case for each carrier but I can generally feel when things like liver are suffering and as of late MCT seems like its a really good, tolerable choice. EO and Migylol I feel unwell on these days, often get stomach ache on them. I saw some literature once saying EO was slightly toxic but not sure how much.
We must share some of the same DNA lol. mig/E.O. is no go for me either
I've read a few things about NPP, but it seemed like it was more toxic than I wanted to risk. With Deca.... you even hint at the fact that I will have "performance issues", and I'm out. Haha. I'm not trying to be the biggest guy in the gym. At 45ish, I'm just trying to get a little help alongside the Test C to feel and look good.
I definitely know what you mean about the liver health. I can tell by the way my body feels that something isn't right with my liver.
Yea npp or deca isn't as clean as primo so I understand what you mean.. Also nandrolone tends to up lipids a little more for some folks also. And performance in bed issues...yep for some. So I feel ya.
I guess you also have Primo as a possibility, but I've never run it so can't comment on bloodwork. You realise injecting synthetic testosterone is toxic to the liver and kidneys in a very small degree too?! There literally are studies investigating it if you search online.