posted Thu, 05/04/2023 - 21:35
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I'm still pretty scared of moving outside the realm of Test for cycles so not looking to do this next cycle but maybe next year for the fourth. Maybe. I was looking into NPP as a fourth cycle and was wondering if anyone on here can point me to 19 nor info and how much caber is needed to keep on hand for it. Maybe my syntax for searches is incomplete or bad but I don't seem to find a lot of definitive info for how much to keep on hand. Mast is going to be incorporated if I decide to head that route. A couple (many) links for good reading would be much appreciated.
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RustyhookerId look straight at dhb. I do like npp a lot as well but dhb less issues and impressive
I don't need impressive Rusty. I just want to see how my body reacts from another injectable. NPP from what I've read is 125-150 of Tests 100 rating and if I want it out it can be so if needs be. I wanna go nice and slow like my wife likes it when I fall asleep on her LOL. I know I'm a smart ass but for me right now I'm basing all injectables by multiplications of Test effectiveness. If that makes sense. I don't want to double what test does to me with a compound if I can just hit it with a 1 and a quarter multiplication. I'm not a showman I really want to keep most of what I work for with as little as possible. Does that make sense?
Keep your estro in check and you likely will not need any caber. The mast definetly helps with this. I have run a lot of 19-nors and I can't remember the last time I actually had to use any caber. I always have it on hand of course, which you should. A pretty standard dose if you do need caber is 0.5mg/wk (split that 2x/wk at .25mg). If you need more than that you probably shouldn't be running a 19-nor. Don't get the big 2mg pills. Impossible to split into .25mg doses. Stick with the 1mg pills and split it into quarters. A little caber goes a long way.
Test/NPP/mast is a really good cycle. You are hittlng all the AR pathways (Test/19-nor/DHT). Toss in some anadrol and you can hit that mysterious non androgen receptor pathway that adrol works through. The mast though, really seems to take the NPP to another level than just running it with test. Try running with and without mast for a couple cycles and you will see the difference for yourself.
I really appreciate the feedback. I still have a lot of reading and time to do so.
Facts from beginning to end. The .25mg caber tabs are godsend and hassle free, not too many labs make them unfortunately. To OP ...I have .25mg caber in my pics section if you looking for quality caber at .25mg/tab. Check the 1st pic I ever posted, click on it
I'm not big into telling people what they should and shouldn't do. That's just me though. It really just comes down to trial and error. You don't really know what works well for you until you run it. Stay away from Tren for as long as possible. NPP > Deca in my opinion. Deca just takes too long for it to build up in your system and the clearance time could be months before you PCT. You can run an 8 week cycle of NPP and get some good gains out of it. Bloodwork will tell you everything you need to know. I would suggest keeping a variety of AI's and PCT on hand. It's better to be prepared for the worst, than under prepared. You won't get as many as the negatives with NPP as you do with Deca. If something were to happen at least it's a shorter ester and you can PCT much sooner. No need to over complicate cycles early on by adding half a dozen or so compounds.
If you want to add a DHT like Mast, what is your reasoning behind it? For AI like properties? You could add Mast but maybe Proviron would be a better alternative? I know there are a bunch of guys on here who run Proviron every cycle and never need an AI.
Definitely why I would like to run NPP as my "advanced" cycle. Not going any where near TREN. Every time I hear a beginner running Tren I get Ossy's riding on a crazy train anthem playing. I don't have that courage!
https://www.eroids.com/group/intermediate-cycles/cycle-test-deca-bulking...
Does this help at all? This cycle has 2 19-nor and has a good chart at the end for dosing caber
Flushin Thank you for the link but it hasn't cleared anything up for me other than that Caber is needed on hand.
"was wondering if anyone on here can point me to 19 nor info and how much caber is needed to keep on hand for it."
Sorry, I was just responding to this line in your post. My link shows how much is needed.