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+ 7 Downsized significantly with reduced trt dose and pct stack

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Pumps went away, so did the definition as water weight left the body after I reduced the testosterone to 105mg / week and included PCT ancillaries. I'm also noticeably weaker but still disciplined. My training regime didn't changed, I do six weight sessions and 2-3 cardio sessions per week. I'm now deloading, working with the lighter loads and the next week I'm taking one week completely off training, first time after several years and I'm hyped for it.

I'm now focused solely on healing, I'll run a lean mass cycle in two or three months according to my bloods and fertility results.

Currently downsized from 109kg to about 105 in the morning, BF 11%

wanted's picture

6 weight sessions and cardio. Sound like your burned all the muscle away

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Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Not really mate, its just a water weight that left the body with lowered test dosage. I eat A LOT as well, I don't believe I'd just burn muscle while not on a diet...

wanted's picture

No way

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Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

why do you think so? Don't your body release a lot of water when the cycle is over as well? I thought its pretty common for everyone

juiceball8082's picture

You don't need pct while on trt bud.

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Well, usually you don't unless you decide to have a baby and fix your screwed reproduction hormones. My bad luck was a fake HCG / HMG that I've been using for long enough to fuck up my LH and FSH and stop the spermatogenezis almost completely. My Andrologist who prescribed me a TRT told me to run Clomiphene without ceasing the TRT. I decided to go lower with test anyway but not completely off and administered Clomiphene into my regime as well. Needles to say, this helped, my fertility profile somehow improved, far from healthy concentrations, but enough for assisted reproduction methods and freezing some of my swimmers.

juiceball8082's picture

Gotcha

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Its clear now, I didn't wanted to take Ai to lower my estro throughout the TRT so some of Acne along with other sides appeared. Ironically now, with the high dose of test and some Ai my skin looks way better than that. In the past I also ran Accutane, but didn't helped much and my eyes were really dry and didn't felt good, so I decided to stop the cure.

YouputyourDecainmyTest's picture

Does anyone else not see this skin? Goddamn.

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wanted's picture

Aslong as its only on the back it doesnt count

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DeeMan's picture

What?

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

My skin Is perfectly fine my man, Its only light And the
New hair growing on my back.

YouputyourDecainmyTest's picture

That's not perfectly fine. But whatever works for you! Smile

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Caner's picture

looks perfect dude !

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Thank you buddy!

Nattyboomba's picture

You look great my man. It is so hard to see the value in rest, rebuild and detox, especially when dropping size, but you are solid. I’m quite sure that the differences that we obsess over aren’t even noticeable to anyone else. It takes a particular type of bravery and intelligence to cycle down the way you are. I believe it is the area where most AAS users err. Well done

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Thank you for huge motivation friend!

simonmagus84's picture

It’s all mental, you look great.

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Mental problems are the most serious ones though, haha. But its all temporary, soon will rise and shine again, that's for sure. Thank you Simon, I appreciate that.

bundlz's picture

Bro if that is acne on your back you use to much or to long i would do a 4 week detox no gear just hgh and get your metabolism up high + 1 for your shape

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Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Hey mate, I never went over 350mg of any compound in my life, therefore "to much gear" gear is relative to this. Yet I'm pretty prone to acne. Some usually appears after basicaly any dosage adjustment or after adding any compound that affects my hormonal state. On this picture though, only acne is a pimp on my left tricep, everything else is badly shaven back hair... .-) I've had much worse when running nor19s, decided to use Acuttane back then, but it caused extremely dry eyes to me, so I discontinued its use.

DeeMan's picture

Good for you for not going over 350mg of any compound in your life. Most folks probably can't say that. I don't do that high dosage stuff myself.

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

With all the possible respect Rusty, whose recommendation in this topic would you rather consider if any of two doctors who agreed on this approach independently? I'm thirsty for knowledge, Any recommendations (except these that cause more harm than good) are very welcome!

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*then

FJB's picture

Solid AF and do your thing bro. Nobody knows you better than you

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Thank you FJB, I appreciate that!

Drexyl's picture

There’s nothing wrong with breaks from some of the things we put our bodies through, it’ll keep you healthier and alive longer. Moving on from that statement, downsizing? My man, you’re in solid shape! Good for you for building a solid foundation, it shows. I wish I could give more than a plus one.

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

You are perfectly right, breaks are necessary and keeps us healthier, well said! Unfortunately taking a break from training when you feel weak and mentally down is the hardest thing that only most disciplined can do. Downsizing is a part of the process and I totally respect that. But without a doubt this period is the hardest part of PED usage... Smile

Thank you for your kind words and the motivation!

Diesel77's picture

You are still a tank bro, keep on trucking regardless how you feel and what you think you seeing in the mirror. You are in great shape and look very functionally strong, as a soldier/battle tested man should. (No Homo) wish you well and hope you and your ol lady achieve the goal of conceiving, then full battle rattle with the AAS buffet lmfao. Thumbs way up

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Such kind works keep me up, thank you Diesel, very much!

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

most likely you will get a lot of mass from just simple Test only cycle, unless you're in peak condition already....

JakeKO's picture

You look awesome for downsizing. Good for you, Bro!

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Thank you Jake, I needed to hear that, I honestly feel like a pre-school kid who never lifted a bar ever in his life, weak and tiny. That's incredible how these hormone levels oscilating affects your overall mental state and wellbeing :))

JakeKO's picture

Bro, trust me, it’s all mental, because you look jacked. I’ve been off of everything since January 26th, and have my mental ups and downs. It can really fuck with your head being off cycle. My wife tells me that she prefers me bigger, but not if I’m rock in’ a set of tits with the size. This girl has no bedside manner, so I know I’m looking good right now. I have a cycle planned for March 1st, and I’m just about watering at the mouth waiting for that day to come. I probably would have broke by now, but have my Mast P caught up in Customs for the past week, and won’t start without it.

Btw, if I looked as good as you do now, I would probably stay natural for a while, LOL.

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

you're the Man, thank you Jake and wish you all the best with your girl and also with this cycle. Hopefuly it all goes great, Masteron is hell of a compound, definitely one of my favourites of all!

P.S. all the women prefers bigger (man) just some are to shy to admit it!

Goodfella1118's picture

With your test dose down to 105 but still trt what Oct Rego mine are you taking , does it work if your still on trt. I was under the impression pct didn’t work if your still on trt , I usually just manage estrogen and steady lab values while dropping down to trt dose like that … currently down to 125mg a week of test

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

I honestly only do what my andrologist and sexuologist tells me. We're trying to concieve while on doctors prescribed TRT, but my sperm counts dropped down (after using fake HCG and HMG) so we had a open discussion about this and he told me not to stop taking testosterone completely, only to incorporate LH and FSH stimulating agents to improve my hormonal balance and therefore sperm counts...

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

What a motivator you are, my friend! I appreciate you. And you are right, the best thing about all this crap is that the receptors clears and the cycle hits different when you're 100% healed after previous one!

Goodfella1118's picture

Ok that makes sense , didn’t realize u were trying to conceive . Best of luck my man !

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Thank you fella Smile