+ 6 Offseason Cycle for Mass
Current stats
5’6.5”
198lbs
9% bf
Goal- Add 5-7lbs of lean body mass while minimizing any accumulation of body fat. The leaner I am the easier my next prep will be and the goal is a class win at nationals with opportunity to take the overall and/or top 4 for pro card.
Training will be heavy volume (6 sets of 5-8 reps) for 2 weeks followed by 1 week of moderate volume (4 sets of 8-12 reps) and repeat with mods as needed. Focusing on bringing up weak points but planning to hit everything.
2 days on 1 day off. Orals and GH will only be taken on training days. Minimizing liver strain and insulin resistance.
Diet will be roughly as follows-
TRAINING Days
Meal 1- 8am
9oz chicken , 50 dry rice , 200g pineapple
Meal 2- Noon
Overnight Oat recipe 1:1 carb to protein ratio.
Meal 3- 4pm
REPEAT meal 1
Meal 4- Intraworkout shake
2:1 carb to protein ratio 120g:60g Composed of fast acting carbs from Coconut water, fruit, vitargo, and hydro whey. 10g creatine. 10g L- citrulline malate
Meal 5- 9pm
10oz lean ground beef, 75g dry rice or 350g potatoes
Maximize sleep and recovery as that’s I’ve realized over the years that’s proven just as important as diet and training when it comes to gaining or prepping.
This will start mid Oct. I will add a few pre cycle pics prior to starting.
Sust and Dbol are from Titans.to
Anadrol Sdrol and Proviron from PharmaQo
GH and Insubolic from roidsource.net
Edit- had to scrap the DHB after two weeks of messing with diluting it. Just not a compound for me. To much post injection inflammation. To be able to tolerate I’d have to dilute 1:1 and inject daily probably no more than 1ml total volume (50mg). For the length of the cycle. Who tf wants to do that? Not me. I’ll go back to primo (from DC). If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
| Week/Product | Sustanon | Primo | Anadrol | Dbol | Sdrol | GH | Insubolic | Proviron |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | 50mg BID | 3iu | 100mcg | 25mg | |||
| 2 | 600mg | 25mg BID | 3iu | 100mcg | 25mg | |||
| 3 | 750mg | 500mg | 10mg BID | 3iu | 100mcg | 25mg | ||
| 4 | 750mg | 500mg | 3iu | 25mg | ||||
| 5 | 750mg | 500mg | 50mg BID | 3iu | 100mcg | 25mg | ||
| 6 | 750mg | 500mg | 25mg BID | 3iu | 100mcg | 25mg | ||
| 7 | 750mg | 500mg | 10mg BID | 3iu | 100mcg | 25mg | ||
| 8 | 750mg | 500mg | 3iu | 25mg | ||||
| 9 | 750mg | 500mg | 50mg BID | 4iu | 100mcg | 25mg | ||
| 10 | 750mg | 500mg | 25mg BID | 4iu | 100mcg | 25mg | ||
| 11 | 750mg | 500mg | 10mg BID | 4iu | 100mcg | 25mg | ||
| 12 | 750mg | 500mg | 4iu | 25mg | ||||
| 13 | 500mg | 500mg | 50mg BID | 4iu | 100mcg | 25mg | ||
| 14 | 500mg | 500mg | 25mg BID | 4iu | 100mcg | 25mg | ||
| 15 | 375mg | 500mg | 10mg BID | 4iu | 100mcg | 25mg | ||
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I liked Titans DHB. Didn’t know it had guiacol when I bought it but luckily my body tolerated the stuff quite well and didn’t knot up. Cut with the sust and heat the oil before pinning. Wouldn’t recommend cold shots.
Interesting oral schedule, you’ve run them like that in the past? I can see the benefit of cycling them for sure.
Unc told me it was actually EO, at least right now it is. I do better with guaiacol than EO so we’ll see. I’ll definitely heed that advice and warm the shots though. Planning on splitting the volume bilaterally between delts thighs and glutes.
Yessir I have. First time was most recent off season cycle and I haven’t had a more productive bulk to date. Hoping for the same this time around using DHB in place of primo.
What is you dosing protocol with the insubolic. Timing it with meals, pre or post workout?
Currently thinking post workout with my last meal.
I may try that for the first half of the cycle then switch it preworkout with my intraworkout shake and move taboo to with my last meal.
What are your thoughts on it Mak?
Best is Insubolic 100mcg dose with first meal, run taboo as necessary pre-workout as you are, and then Insubolic 100mcg dose post large meal.
If, you'd like to try Insubolic pre-workout, just switch (no pun intended) taboo to first large morning meal...the spike also helps burn fat throughout the day/and you have plenty of meals ahead, and run Insubolic pre workout and into the night...you actually get better recovery the later you take the IGF IMO towards bed when you are repairing, but I take a nap during the day, def feel well rested lol @Makwa
No doubt!
Start shutting those carbs early, you'll get a narly pump off Insubolic!! All about nutritional timing/we'll have to set up a post in adv
Insubolic is new to me. I have not used it and am learning more about it. Normally with IGF-LR3 the best time to take it is post workout because your IGF receptors are upregulated by an intense workout so they soak it up like sponges. I have one of those diabetic pin cases with an ice pack in it that I take my dose of IGF to the gym and then pin it as soon as I am done working out. Have a protein shake on the way home and eat a good post workout meal when I get home. I am thinking Insubolic is going to follow the same routine. I would double check with @IronMind though. I would think for sure that you want at least one dose immediately after workout though. I am going to get some and try it out myself
Absolutely love superdrol but it just writes me off, I feel shattered all the time. Looks like a great cycle. Is that pharma GH?
Superdrol is amazing but I've never been able to run it longer than 2 weeks. I generally stop at day 10 @ 10mg.
This is a very interesting cycle strategy here.
That’s funny, the two times I’ve run it I stopped at day 10! I fully intended to do 2 weeks both times but after days of barely being able to get off the sofa I had to quit. Going to have another go soon though!
Bloody awesome for strength gains - But I find it takes all the fun and satisfaction out of training. Its weird, but half of training for me is feeling great afterwards.
For me, I need to be in a good mood to lift. If I hit the gym feeling like shit, my session is going to be shit and I'll walk out of there without breaking a sweat. I'm too old for no motivation haha
What are even funnier is those sessions where beforehand you feel lazy, no energy and not strong at all. You almost force yourself to train then when you end up getting to your max set you lift like a God and are strong as hell! I've set quite a few PR's when I've felt like this and afterwards I sit scratching my head wondering where the hell it come from??!! I wonder if its from excess estrogen from test or DBol and as a result its given you the extra strength in the meantime in your joints and ligaments etc.
Exactly why I never run it longer than a week usually. That last week of prep before stepping on stage it’s a game changer too. Primes the muscles to suck up all the glycogen when carb loading the day before comp.
Do you really think its better for Glycogen loading than Dianabol?
What Liver supps and doses do you take Bud?
I would say it’s very close but without the bloat. Ideal for comp prep.
Honestly bro I only take NAC 1000mg twice daily. At least 4 hours before or after any orals. I have used TUDCA in the past and LIV52 but it actually increased my LFTs in bloodwork. And there is decent research that taking TUDCA alone can cause initial strain on the liver and it’s a downstream effect that has the healing/regenerative/anti inflammatory properties.
It's an amazing supplement, probably one of the best out there for a multitude of conditions and illnesses. Only after it became touted as something that helps with covid treatment and recovery by NCBI and other studies did the FDA seek to ban it from use as a supplement. We should start carrying it out of spite
Fucking FDA and big pharma man it’s ridiculous. As soon as I heard that I got on Walmart.com or ordered a two year supply. Dozen bottles
Same actually that’s why I don’t run it for very long.
Nah never used pharma gh honestly. I’ll be switching between a few generics. Starting paratropin and then back to Qtropin which I’ve used w great results for years now since it came out
Have you tried pharmaqo qomatropin?
I haven’t but was just looking at it considering that dope promo. Not that reconstituting is an issue but I do love the liquid Qtropin formulation and for price with effectiveness and consistent numbers I’ve had on it I haven’t swayed much save for a recent promo and credit I had received.
I love pulsing Adrol. I would probably up the DHB to 4-500mg/wk. It has such a strong binding affinity that it really aids in recomp.
Appreciate the advice Mak. So long as I can tolerate the PIP (couldn’t in the past from another source) I do plan on upping the DHB to 450.
4-500 seems to be the sweet spot
I have been searching around for a good lab for DHB. Trying some right now with basically no pip. Glutes, legs, shoulders pinning it straight and all good. Shoot me a pm if you want.
I like this design!
Can't wait to see the progress pics.
RustyhookerSd....perk up the liver supps. Fun times
Couldn't agree more. I can feel the difference when I do and don't use a stringent liver support regimen with things like superdrol and anadrol.
This sounds awesome bro. I'm excited for you!
Looking forward to the results. Keep us updated!