posted Fri, 10/23/2020 - 07:02
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Just like the topic says. I'm a newbie as far as gear goes and have only been on trt for 14 months, so I dont have much to offer. I do know that low dose anavar will absolutely destroy my gut flora for about a month after a cycle.
But list some of the stupid things you guys have done or experienced from using AAS. I'm talking about adverse reactions, bloodwork, libido problems, crashed estrogen, etc.
I believe some of the new guys on here need to hear from some of the experts learning curve moments.
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Waiting too long to start pct and not using it correctly at 25 fucked me for life
What were you running and for how long that it messed you up for life?
Accidentally took 240mcg of clen because I couldn’t read a label on a liquid version, felt like I was gonna die, also the reason I don’t fuck with liquid oral anything
PcushionOuch man!!!
The funny part is that it was probably under dosed cause I think a full 240 would have killed me, but it felt like I was gonna die
Edit: For those wondering here is a guide to deal with toxic levels of Clen, granted I doubt anyone has the drugs on hand to counteract the effects https://epmonthly.com/article/handling-the-clen-overdose/
PcushionI bet you did brother. Damn it man.
Worst thing I’ve done was start using gear!....now I’m addicted...wait...that’s a whole other post green pickle..
Actually it’s the best and worst...not sure how the long term of my use will effect my overall life expectancy but damnit I look hella jacked and feel great!
Then the flip side of the coin is how much time have I taken off that I could be spending with my loved ones....idk but this is without a doubt the most +- decision I’ve made in my life...( with the exception of volunteering as assistant in a Juarez donkey show back in 84), ....
Stay green my pickled friend
PcushionYou were in Juarez in 84??? Me too!!!
Only for a short period... I like to call that time frame my “ experimental “ phase....lol
I agree with you completely. As the pickle is green, so am i when it comes to running gear. I hope I can keep my gear decisions, especially the addiction part under control. But, I know my personality and I do like the experiment when I'm the guinea pig{This shit is the closest thing we got to becoming super heros.}
Stay swole my Donkey's friend!
Thing is Bud is people say they don't want to lose years off their life by running gear, so are they saying they are looking forward to being over 70, not running gear or training anymore, rocking in an armchair being miserable? I'd rather enjoy living in the now and making the best of being mobile enough to move the Iron - then when we are done and can't anymore at least we know we damn well made the most of it!!!
Well said Press, I’m much more concerned with health and longevity now than I used to be but I’ll continue to use gear sensibly and train for as long as I can or at the very least trt when I’m looking too hench and vascular at 60 or 70 lol
For me my two biggest mistakes were using too much clen too frequently and most likely damaged my heart doing so.
Secondly letting my estro go too out of whack because I’d read that estrogen conversion helps with gains and I made my pubertal gyno get worse.
Yeh Clen does seem to be quite damaging as compounds go, not that I've ever tried it. Too skinny as it is Lmao Read quite a few stories of beginners using it and going to bed and never waking up again as they've died of a heart attack in their sleep.
Knuckles!
Wasn't there but there are videos to prove you were. No Homo. LMFAO
Ha...the quality of those videos is poor at best, add in my Joe Exotic mullet and zoro mask, there’s no way to get a positive Id on ol drock!
PcushionI ran superdrol in 2008 SOLO. It wasn’t marketed as a hormone, just a dietary supplement, and I didn’t really know any better. My dick stopped working and I had no idea why... I also didn’t run a pct because I didn’t know to. Live and learn!
Sounds like you were a typ. dumb 20 year old at the time, no offense. But even with all the brains and research in the world, experience is oh so important.
I went into my first cycle extremely uneducated and was paranoided about gyno so I started taking 2.5mg letro ED on DAY 1 of a 500 mg/wk test enan run. Completey crashed my estrogen, killed my sex drive, felt depressed as hell for two weeks then finally researched the side effects of low estrogen in men and realized that I am in fact a moron.
AnonJESUS! Omfg wow yeah fuck estrogen right!?
I actually looked into tanking it when I was like 20 because it was a woman hormone, and I don't want no bitch in my business.
I'm so glad I didn't... Amazing how much we change as we age lol I don't do anything without really looking into it now.
Too took much Caber & for too long! I did it because it was making my Gyno shrink & nonexistent! Killed my sex drive
AnonWhat dosage and what duration? I'm just curious.
Long story! 1 mg a week for months(I know), but I’ll explain why below. Was doing .5 mg every 3.5 days. I only have/get gynonflareups in one nipple, Weirdest thing!! One side nothing; other side the size of a walnut under the nip. (Not as bad as Franco Columbia in the 1981 Olympia though) He had it under one nip too; check it out on YouTube. A few years ago I was running a good amount of Deca & decided to add pharma grade Caber. I wasn’t taking Ai’s so I know it was the caber at play as I’ve had that gyno under that nip for over 20 years. Low & behold... My gyno on the one side kept shrinking slowly every month w/ that caber dose week in & week out. I was really excited that the gland was shrinking after having it for soo many years. I would say it took about six/seven months for the Gyno to be totally gone..I mean nonexistent from the size of a walnut, but my sex drive was also disappearing too. Had to go on Cialis & never had to rely on that before. Once the Gyno was totally gone I mean it went from the size of a walnut to nothing. I quit taking the caber. Believe it or not I’m just telling you my story. I’m sure I crashed my progesterone and that’s why I was having a sexual problems and it took a while , but my body reset(3/4 months) and my sex drive came back and I was able to get off the Cialis. But that’s not the end of the story, fast forward, sometime went by, used some Primo, Test, & Tbol & it didn’t return. Was really happy for a while & could not believe it wasn’t coming back. Then I ran a few cycles w/ Dbol in it and it came back. Moral of my story. I’m not gonna take the Caber to get rid of it again..I feel good now even with the little one under one nip. If anything I’ll just get it cut out one day and not crash my progesterone levels that are important for sex drive/function too. I don’t know why but for some reason caber shrinks my gyno & Ai’s don’t. Trial & Error
Simple... not realizing the value and importance of bloodwork much sooner. Having a baseline is like a golden map to guide you and keep you from getting lost in the valley of side effects. Holy shit "less really is more" when you have hard numbers in your face , for me at least.
Thinking pretty 36iu pens come before blood work :/
Stick around long enough and you will have your question answered, every other day you will see a post of someone stupid cycles and "trt" at 500mg a week.
It's not trt bro, those guys are just "cruising" ;-)
That's a cruise? That's more like a jetski
You calling me out bro? Lmao
Never in the open forum like this hahaha
Lol ;) ... Not sure if you’re a ginger because you’re name is Irish but I have a red beard... bahahaha
Epic!
Looking into a first cycle before I found eroids. The dealer posts a statement like this . Men who use test usually use 500 to 1000mg a week. Ok ill start low 500 it is. Then men who use this amount of test also stack it with 600 to 1200mg EQ. Sounds good i better start at 600. Wait, what you say men that use this stack usually add 600 to 1200mg of deca. Nice every thing i need. Wait there is more? Even to add 30 to 50 mg of D-balls. Best advice ever! Thanks, scketchy on line steroid guru!.
Not a good choice at the later end of my 30' .
Never recovered, lost all , now on trt.
Best thing on this topic finding this place!
Albeit too late
I like 600mg every other day...
600 seems to be the sweet spot
Yes I love it.
Taking too much for a first cycle. It was 500 mg test and I should have and could have used half that and still made gains. All I got from the extra test was a back like a pepperoni pizza.
Running test/tren/mast together, one night your ready to please your Mrs 5 times. Next night it's limp as hell like a drunk slug.
AnonI ran that same combo and didnt have those sides.
AnonI love that combo with proviron and anavar, 10mg cialis E3D or eod if you want...fuck me that was a good cycle. But there's prostate and liver support to think about.. Hair line issues if you're prone to them also.
It's all about finding the right mix for you and having ancillaries around in case you Spike or crash your e2 or prolactin.
I was a horned up vagina demonizing sweaty fking mess. But man was that a good spring!
I like the analogy of the drunk slug.
Molinin302I've always been cautious about my dosages and plans, so not to sound arrogant I've never done anything stupid. Except... and learn from this... my first dianabol experience. New customer at a lab that looked good at the time. Suspended in alcohol, to this day I couldn't tell you the dosage but it took about 3 weeks. The weight gain (water but didn't look too bad) was impressive. But my chest turned into a house special pizza, my back was on fire. Charleyhorses that would drop me to the ground, neck cramps waking me out of sleep. Hands that felt like they were pumped with air when I woke up. Thank God bloodwork has come back good since that run, but wow. Know your source. I just can't imagine how much dbol was in that tincture. No lol on this one.
maybe it was triple dosed, more bang for your buck I guess
Molinin302Yes sir, probably somewhere around there. I'm making some changes. I'll take heat for this, but orals definitely serve more of a purpose that getting some results before the oils kick in. Im posting a Q&A after I type this. But although I've been ok, I don't want to push issues. I'm staying leaner these days, anavar may be a better fit. I turn 45 in about a week lol. But to be blunt here, I've ran dbol since that incident. No issues, well, similar issues, but not anywhere close to that level. I honestly couldn't tell you how much was in that? My wife nicknamed Beetlejuice because it looked like my head shrunk.
I had my E2 at 117 with 750mg test per week, only afterwards I added Arimidex but I had to do it before, during the cycle. In addition to Test I tried Primobolan but at low dosage. In addition to these I have never tried other gear. I don't have stage genetics, I prefer to keep my health, but at the same time look fit.
I took too much of my AI (I knew it too- that’s the dumb thing). And I wanted sex so bad, but my dick would not get erected. I remember standing in the bathroom talking to my dick like back in the day when I was so drunk, I literally could not get it up even for a Victoria Secret model .. lol
It made my wife question it because a few days earlier, we were doing amazing in that area.
I definitely learned from my mistake.
AnonTrusting research chems for AI or PCT. Many are bunk, dossed improperly, or unstable.
Running zero Liver protection when running tren and Dbol. I'd often see others talk about routinely taking Milk thistle, Tudca, NAC etc and thought they were just being paranoid and way over cautious. Almost like they should just man up Lol Didn't that come back and bit me in the ass. I was always watching out for liver pain and sickness, loss of appetite etc. But I seemed to get the reverse order of the side effects - I started with my ankles and feet swelling up holding water followed by my legs. Then came the slowly rising liver pain that ended up near my lungs and the whole of my liver inflamed and went rock hard in the end. I thought all the symptoms were because of heart but it turned out to be that. Got all the values back down to normal after around 6 weeks of just going back to test. ALWAYS run as much protection as you can when cycling, look at it as a way of being able to continue to train effectively and prolonging your life.
This is good advice +1 (fake). I had NAFLD and 2 liver biopsies for trying to eat myself to death in my 20s and 30s.