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What's the least suppressing cycle in your opinion? Well, second least, after staying away from AAS completely. Appreciate that the gains are also going to be moderate.
4-5 weeks of short half-life testosterone esters, like propionate? Orals? Using AI?
Please share your opinion.

Halsey's picture

Are you drunk or stroking out a bit?

Greg's picture

Leave him alone. He's short... his fingers can't stretch far enough to reach the "H"; the "rr" is just a typo for "er", anyone can make that errorr.

Halsey's picture

Sorry, I didnt know he was a short stroker!

Halsey's picture

Nice package Hooker!

Johnny Bravo's picture

Hey I know you were gone for a while but don’t forget to blur out your face haha

GregoryS's picture

Are you sure high school kids are all nutty. Aas is very prevalent in prof as well as armature sport

Zalewski's picture

Most of them take SARMs, unaware of the strength of what they are taking. They are also unaware of the side effects

Bulkdaddy's picture

I disagree I believe it depends on the person. Shutting down natural test is shutting down your natural test. It just depends on the persons body wether it will recover or not. Just my opinion.

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Bulkdaddy's picture

Ahh nice! You learn something new everyday Smile

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Halsey's picture

Thats pretty much what I take!

Halsey's picture

I'm on trt and 45 years old, I'm done with my nuts. But thanks for the good advice. I appreciate it and your comments seem rational and intelligent.

press1's picture

Hey Bud, We both know gear & muscle is more important than a set of balls Lol

Halsey's picture

acorns come in all shapes and sizes, From a small Southern Red oak to the Big Burr Oak. Most of my Burr oak acorns are bigger than golf balls. Mine are not Burr Oaks! I did put a new picture up, but not of my nuts. Sorry guys

Halsey's picture

The question really is, what are your goals? Your topics are basically you want your cake and eat it too. This forum and topic is not cookie cutter for each person, but to post a question and then play devil advocate is not really helping your cause. I really dont think you are ready for cycles. I personally concerned about my health, I'm on trt so I'm already shutdown. This doesnt mean I want to throw caution to the wind and just say fuckit though. I research and start slow to see how my body responds to each new compound.

Like it was stated earlier, the minimal gains you could achieve with a mild cycle are not even worth fucking with your natural production if that is your concern! No free lunches

GregoryS's picture

my goal is to feel 110-120% for several weeks a year. maybe gain a couple of kg of lean muscle and pleasantly surprise my wife in the bedroom (on holiday). and then recover as quickly and as fully as possible. Of course nothing is without risks: take alcohol, sugar, etc, etc. The dose makes the poison, isn't it? I don't have (too) many vices and look after myself otherwise so I thought I might get off lightly. I might be wrong.
And testosterone is as natural as it gets (unlike alcohol).

GregoryS's picture

Shorter cycles (4 weeks) with shorter test esters (Test Prop EOD) will cause less shutdown and quicker recovery. Isn't it a fair assumption?

BJ's picture

Primo

maddogg's picture

I’d say mk 2866 then 20 to 25 mg a day for 6 weeks. It works well and is mildly suppressive. An otc pct would suffice of DAA 3 grams per day for 3 weeks. Or you could run trib and DAA and that would give you a good mild test boost. They are not gear but are effective

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GregoryS's picture

thanks. never heard of MK 2866. google says it's SARM? need to educate myself about sarms. Trib means tribulus?

maddogg's picture

Yes I really suck at spelling, so I just put trib. I’ve used it I like it a lot but it was suppressive for me at 25 just going of my sex drive after a while. But you still feel Great on it even as you test drops. Most say it doesn’t suppress until you reach 30 mg a day but I felt it at 25

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GregoryS's picture

I get the general idea here: "you're either IN 100% or OUT". No half measures. And I can understand that. True if you're a competitive bodybuilder, lifter, other professional sportsmen, etc. But I doubt every single person using AAS is taking part in Mr. Olympia.
Some are using to simply have an edge for several weeks a year with minimal damage. there are a lot of research and medical trials of AAS, proving that even after relatively high exposure and duration (600mg test/week for months), HPTA does return to normal after discontinuation, eventually. hence my question about minimising damage.

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GregoryS's picture

Correct. I'm interested in mild cycles with a minimum chance of damage to HPTA.

Bulkdaddy's picture

Tren

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press1's picture

Probably Test suspension and anadrol taken ED to give you the honest truth, however it won't be the most comfortable and you won't keep much of it. Its a proven way to cycle for tested powerlifting competitions where you can come off a few days before and its all out of your system. I don't think you should be running gear if you have that mindset, you can't really fully get your head into a cycle if you are constantly thinking about restoring your own hormonal system. Rarely is it plain sailing to do.

MONK's picture

Struggling to see the point of this. At all.

Throwing 50lbs of dynamite to kill a fly in here. No one think it a good idea to check the OP out first before handing over info on serious compounds.

His question alone should enough of a warning sign nvm goals, exp, knowledge, stats, previous forum posts. This man will likely take a bottle of TNE and soak himself in it judging by his other posts

Blum 3

press1's picture

You've obviously given some great advice over your 7 years of being on here.

MONK's picture

Biggrin

carnealsr's picture

Suspension makes a great pre workout as long as you don’t mind welts on your backside . Stuff works but you would have to be a masochist to endure a cycle of it.

press1's picture

If you can get stuff that doesn't clog easily its brilliant - I would jab it before every deads session but the problem is you can become dependant on it to keep hitting numbers after a while. As soon as you stop taking it the workout then feels crap Lol

GregoryS's picture

thanks for your advice. I'm not into maximum gains, just want some edge with minimum long term consequences.

DbolAndAll's picture

if youre talking easier pct then no 19 nors, if not about easier pct then its no steroid lmao educate yourself more guy

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What's the least suppressing cycle in your opinion?

The one where you apply injectable test E to the skin.

jrod91384's picture

You nailed it. Maybe massage it into the skin for slow absorption.

Halsey's picture

It always seems your playing chess when almost everybody else is playing checkers.

addicted.to.pain's picture

Stay away from 19nor's

Keep it basic Testosterone.

Slowly's picture

I wish I knew who your friends are.