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https://forum.propeciahelp.com/t/igf-i-is-a-regulator-of-5ar-activity/2347
Doesn’t say specifically, kinda gotta put it together. My take on it is that igf-1 and DHT both use the 5-AR enzyme and depending on dosage, DHT will gain most control of the 5-AR Leaving igf-1 Without much to increase on.
https://www.healthline.com/health/dht#hair-loss
That’s just an article in DHT, to compare
Thanks for your wisdom... another question... if I’m taking 5iu daily , even though igf score is 200 or less. Am I getting the full benefits of the hgh. By the numb hands and feet, tight skin crazy dreams etc. I would say yes. Btw I’ve use all types of hgh mostly pharma never any Chinese stuff. When I had igf in the 3, 4 and 5 hundred range I’ve never been on primo.
That’s a tough one, I’ve questioned that too. I’m sure the “fat burning” and things you mentioned like the dreams and tight skin are there still, but if ones igf-1 is not elevated, then cell replication and growth isn’t being maximized. so I guess it comes down to your reason for hgh use.
This is all my opinion of course
https://imgur.com/a/AWCqIDJ.
Did a serum test this week. Did 10iu in the delt 3 hours before draw. Happy to see this result.
Did igf also but still waiting. Definitely must be the primo skewing the igf number. Have read a lot on this and other forums and that seems to be the consensus . It’s raising the RDW too.
Liver barely elevated.
Also, forgot to mention...arimidex and nolvadex lowers igf-1 as well. Use aromasin when ai is needed because it won’t mess with igf-1
Shit, I did mention that above. Anyway, have you had another igf-1 test done without the primo?
No not yet... I have enough to last me to end of this month and that’ll be 16 weeks on it. Any idea how long it’ll be until my igf number will be accurate again?
I’d wait 30 days after your last injection of primo to pull blood again for igf.
About 20 days for enanthate ester to clear your system then 10 days is more than enough for your igf to build back up
What do you think about laying of the growth for a few weeks too. I been on for over a year straight (anti-aging dose) then go back on when primo has cleared. Take igf couple of weeks later?
Yea you can do that. I think breaks are good to take. Only takes about 3-5 days, depending on dose, for you igf to peak (according to a study done by pfizer)
Nice. Also helps that you’re actually doing bloods and finding the problem, most people don’t do that.
https://imgur.com/a/RTOnrco
So have been off the Hgh for about a month finished up with the primo also. All I take is 300mg test per week. I’ve posted my labs. Igf1 and gh level very low. Started back on the Quantropin today. 3iu daily will go to 4 in a week. 5 on 2 off. I’ll do same labs in a month and then I’ll know whats what. Only thing is estrogen is high so I’m going to take an AI. Guys is that a really high number and will AI effect my igf1 score. I plan on taking a minimum amount so I’d appreciate suggestions. Thanks
Great number sir, thanks for testing, please upload to eroids site so all the guys can see it too
Good info +1 thanks!
Sure thing!
How are your liver values?
Normal.... I’m gonna double the dose and test again. Still trying to post labs
https://imgur.com/a/Ez5chSw
So have been off the Hgh for about a month finished up with the primo also. All I take is 300mg test per week. I’ve posted my labs. Igf1 and gh level very low. Started back on the Quantropin today. 3iu daily will go to 4 in a week. 5 on 2 off. I’ll do same labs in a month and then I’ll know whats what. Only thing is estrogen is high so I’m going to take an AI. Guys is that a really high number and will AI effect my igf1 score. I plan on taking a minimum amount so I’d appreciate suggestions. Thanks.
https://imgur.com/a/RTOnrco
Quantropin...so far enjoying the ride!!!
I will be posting a review in a week or so but I wanted to post an update that the Quantropin is keeping me as lean as my current "eating habits" will allow. ;)
Eating literally whatever I want and with training only about 3-4x a week past few weeks at 5-6iu/day. No better way to test drive it than take a little break from intense training and eating cheat meals as I see fit.
This week, I will be increasing protein where it should be and eating less garbage foods along with back to a 5-6x/week training regime. I will be upping dose to about 6iu-8iu (so long as sides permit) to see it really shine.
Happy thus far and with proper fuel and training I am expecting some great results over the next few weeks!
https://www.eroids.com/pics/quantropin-hgh-is-solid-domes
*Mr. CEO is killing the domestic hGH game...damn I was just posting about the last promo and you already got a new one up! Stock up boys lol
These Quantropin are far beyond my expectations, especially a domestic quick source! I'm done with a kit and WOW! I've ran several different ones and learned the hard way some "Pharma" or lots is faked. The quality this hGH is going so well I might back down on the dose as OlderHulk is doing!! I got another kit and running with Mast P it's holding my water in check. Skin is getting thinner and body is holding more muscle due to the nutrients/water shuttling to muscles. Recovery great, but man these do make you a bit sleepy... caffeine!!
Down to 2iu per day, feeling way better, water retention is gone
What dose were you at? Im 4iu...but split am and mid afternoon...were you blasting all at once in the am?
i started at 2iu and was feeling great decided to bump it up to 4iu, but water retention is something i cant deal with it, so now back to 2iu. i think this is the right dosage for me. IDK how Bodybuilders can get 10iu per day
Bro it's ridiculous the amount and etc pros use on the off-season...I won't even mention it open forum.
How long have been using Quantropin? Have you used any other hgh before them and how does it compare? Thanks!
This is my first run with hgh, ive been using it since Jan
I've used freaking dozens of kits and many ones floating around now, but dude honestly these are fantastic, the leaner look, muscle recovery, and skin/nails/hair growth all pronounced...they don't fog me down either like some other gh that makes you very tired or lethargic. These doses are accurate I feel I could go up but on such a low dose under 5iu I'm def obtaining my Physique finally.