+ 16 Taking Viagra/Cialis without having ED
For about a year now I have been planning my move, going somewhere nice and sunny all year round as I am sick to death of New England and its inability to stay consistent. A few months ago stress and anxiety started kicking in since I am getting closer to the date and I lost that loving feeling so I was having a hard time being in the mood and staying in the mood so I started dabbling in Cialis/Viagra. At 1st it was helping out at recommended dose of 5mg of Cialis. For some reason it started not having an effect and I had to start using more and I'm talking 15mg and then a couple weeks later I was at 30mg a day. I thought it was bunk so my grandfather, the horny old bastard he is, has a prescription for cialis so I grabbed 2 from him (5mg for every day use) and popped 1. After waiting an hour for it to take effect I still had a floppy noodle so I then thought taking both would help, slightly, something is wrong and made an appointment with my endo.
I talked with my endo for a while and he ran his usual BS on me, am I taking my medicine, and I told him I was and then I asked him about why my sex drive took a nosedive and he asked me about my current situation, i.e stress. Since he is aware of me moving he asked about other things.
Long story short.....I told him I was taking cialis and viagra to get an erection and he asked me if it was working. I told him how it takes a lot more then usual to work and now I am taking more then 30mg just to get an erection. I was told by my Doctor that taking ED drugs without having ED will Cause ED and taking more then the average dose can cause heart problems and other circulatory issues.. Usually it takes a while to manifest but he said he is seeing more and more patients having to take more of the drug to get the same results and its because your body builds a tolerance as well as diminishing returns. He told me to stop taking it and try breathing exercises, clearing my mind, e.t.c. So since my visit I have been getting erections again and following his advice I dumped all the viagra/cialis I had and have not looked back.
Although I am waiting for my blood work to come back since he is concerned I might have caused some other issues. I almost became dependent on it to.
I did some more research on it too just to make sure he wasn't full of shit and trying to push his agenda on me and I did find some studies that showed ed in men who used cialis and viagra recreational as well as other risks.. I will post those links in here for you guys to see. I do not want fkn ED if I don't have it so fuck that shit. Most will ignore this and think they are immortal and it will never happen to them but thats bullshit,
If you never had a problem getting an erection then its in your head and if you take it for PCT then you are just setting yourself up for future ED problems so plan on no sex during PCT if you have to depend on drugs to get your wee wee hard. I know this was my experience and everyone is different but the consensus is still the same.
http://www.everydayhealth.com/news/what-happens-when-you-use-viagra-you-...
http://www.thebody.com/content/art32246.html
http://jezebel.com/5911563/recreational-viagra-use-makes-dudes-bad-in-bed
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RustyhookerFor the new kids to see
ED pills give me the worst hangovers. Even if I don't drink with them, giant headache the next day.
Headaches are the most common negative side effect from ED medication. There is nothing you can do to prevent it. The rapid change in flood flow and the increase in nitric oxide cause it.
I was taking cialis everyday and it was working well for a bit. I then noticed it had diminishing effects. Higher amounts of the drug was needed. I've since stopped taking any ED medication. I find that I no longer need it.
I to take it on occasion even though I do not have a ED issues..... Well not yet. it's kind of a novelty for me there's nothing like breaking out of jackhammer every now and then (;
I only take it on emergencys! Like downing a bottle of Whisky & my girl wants to play Hokie Pokie all night!
Great article! +
Bang'emI found out that I like to take it once in a while just to kill it, like with a new chick or something. I have also taken it to thepoint where it does absolutley nothing, and it is deff not a good thing.
Area-1255Bump.
I've used Generic Viagra recreationally. I wouldn't say that I "need" it, but it definitely improved the sex. I had a great deal more control, lasted longer, and was harder than I've been in years. I had no negative side effects that I was aware of. Good luck all!
Its like any med or drug and alcohol the more you take it and the bigger amount you take will affect toleranc until it goes to one pill a day to 20 as 3beer to a case a night. Its funny how our bodies can notice such a change in us and man up to protect us by blocking out certain things its our body's way of saying "HEY" enough is enough. Always best if we catch ourselves needing more and more to achieve desired affect or beginning to feel a dependency brewing to just lay it down and walk away before we get caught up to deep. This saying/advice fits in well in many aspects of life. One it to many and a thousand is never enough.
Area-1255Holy shit, this post is still going???
I had an iron deficiancy and i would get erections but they were always semi erect. Never the drill a nail through wood type. After supplementing iron pills into my daily diet i started getting rock hard erections after a week or two.
I say this because it could be numerous thibgs not allowing one to reach their potential!
Area-1255Right, red blood cell concentration affects viscosity of blood and blood volume and as well, having enough is necessary for proper blood / oxygen delivery to target tissues. Iron also helps support the hypothalamus and glutamate neuron activity which supports sexual functions.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8723573
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21296883
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10534-012-9550-x
AnonFuckin A..... Good post man... +10
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Of course when you take pill every time you wanna have sex and do not have ED that will cause health problems. lol
I take kamagra myself but very rarely when I wanna get some new sensations. I've noticed at first some side effects like headache, but now I don't have 'em...probably tolerance, but I don't intend to use it all the time
This is a great post. A few months ago, I started taking Cialis for "fun", and for the first few weeks I loved it. But I started building a tolerance pretty quickly, and lately have seemingly been taking it for no reason. I have been considering putting it away, and I think this post has convinced me.
I haven't had any "sides", it just isn't doing much for me. My sex drive hasn't been great for a few years, but I don't have "ED".
Actually, I have a similar experience with test. The first few weeks of a cycle, I turn into an animal sex-wise, but it seems to normalize 6-8 weeks in.
I am really shocked, when I read article about the Viagra consumption without ED. Around the world, Viagra is a tough call for the doctor to prescribe for the treatment of ED. But nowadays most of the men are choosing Viagra drug to get last longer results without any ED. This is not a good news because we all know about the side effects of this pill like high blood pressure, diabetes and heart diseases. Know more about the serious health problems associated with Viagra drug http://www.sureviagra.com/generic-viagra.html
Area-1255I think most would concur that Tadalafil has loads of other benefits, ESPECIALLY if you like to snort coke or do tren often. ...but seriously, it does have a lot of other benefits. Just don't be stupid with it.
Thanks bro. But I have never had a problem getting and maintaining an erection. I would have my man card revoked if that ever happened!!!'
(Just joking, of course I've had problems, thanks man for the info) +2
Area-1255http://area1255.blogspot.com/2016/06/health-benefits-of-daily-cialis-oth...
Area-1255Also, most people who take Cialis daily find it doesn't yield the same level of side-effects as Viagra. Pharmacologically, that's also correct, Tadalafil poses less risk and offers more benefits than other PDE-5 Inhibitors.
Area-1255The risk is stronger if one has an existing heart issue...
I took it for non ED reason and my tolerance built up fast. Then it started to make me feel like shit. My heart would race, hot flashes, and scared me to the point I was thinking I was about to have a heart attack. I would definitely not recommend it. I stopped taking it then decided to try a low dose and the same symptoms came on so. I trashed it.
jimmc01Great post, I was honestly about to purchase viagra for recreational use without having ED and I want to keep it that way! Thanks I think I'll pass haha
According to urologists, there's no evidence linking long term use of Viagra for any reason in a physical or chemical or hormonal decline in a man's ability to get a boner (or, if you want to use proper medical terminology, "stiffy," "hard on," or "dong ding"
Pretty much saying that its all in your head.
I've been using Cialis as a performance enhancer for a few yrs now. I can still get it on without it but I like the raging hard on that it gives me. And so does my wife. I like to combo a few grams of l-arginine with about 10 of Cialis, kind of makes your dick hurt a little it gets so damn hard.
I DO see your point as valid. (Norcuron don't flame) BUT to each their own. I'm over 40, do HRT and Blast, take Cialis and to be honest I don't NEED either. I have an understanding DR and a good job to pay for it all. I also think that I enjoy life better while enhanced in these ways.
Great post !
Thanks !
I definitely found this informational! Will have to pass on to my guy friends - many of which dabble in taking ED pills for fun...
ED meds are nothing to play around with.
Mack as far as I know, Ed meds for people who not have ed will play with your head. When you go for some sexy time without it, you may tend to feel like your erections are weaker. Then you can fall into a cycle of psychogenic Ed.
If had Ed for about 4 years now. I am 26. I have been diagnosed with veinous leakage. My ability to perform slowly, got worse and worse until it was never reliable. I have experimented with many ed drugs. I can assure all of you all, having to rely on pills for sex blows big time. Developing a tolerance is true. You will need more and more if you never take a break. Doctors do not care about finding cures, only treatments. Guess which makes more money?
Bottom line, if you don't need them, never touch them. If you got a gf or wife during pct, they just have to understand what's happening. Fuck they should be unable to move from you on cycle anyway.
Need somewhat of a natural boost in erection and load?
Argentine
Triple lecithin
Zinc
Pygeum
L-citrulline
You get boners just fine? Kiss the fuckin ground, cause I would give up a lot to be you
To expand on these a bit
Argentine and citrulline are for stiffness. However tolerence seems to build quickly. Best to cycle on nights you want to be a jackhammer.
Triple lecithin and zinc will help towards increasing volume. This is important one because who doesnt wanna shoot a big load? And also in my experience the orgasm intesity increases because of the volume.
Pygeum. This stuff will make you precum like a fuckin fountain. Personally was a turn on for me and the wife just cause you know your turn on and ready to go.
I also forgot one. Celery seed extract. I dont have personal experience with but heard good things for increasing volume.
Now go out there and make me proud
+1 and I'd like to add to your list a little of what else I've used but too much of this and you could become dependant as well. Tongkat Ali, horny goat weed and tribullus terrest extract. I use all of these during pct to help with erections and they all boost the test naturally as well
Rustyhooker+2 !!! You really might put together a full forum. There's a lot of helpful ideas there to help all these jocks.
Dumb question.. What is the point of taking it if you dont have ED? isnt a boner a boner?
ED is complicated. If you are forty like it says on your profile you no doubt understand how temperamental our peckers can get to be as we age. Between losing an erection because you cannot get something distracting out of your head (stress) to being unable to finish, it can be anything in between. Those do still qualify as ED.
Yep...all that started happening to me in my mid 30's. Probably also cuz the lady and I go at it every day and sometimes twice haha
We're getting old bro lol. I've been starting to notice alot of things get a little out of whack that never did ten years ago...bp, lipids, liver/kidneys, etc. A while back no matter what I did those numbers would almost always be in range
Pffft...you aren't lying man, I'm on bp meds now. My lipids starting getting out of whack. Medical bills this past year, never has to deal with paying those off.
I know this thread was older but I like how it dug up new thoughts and comments, exactly why I posted
How do you like the lisinopril? I was on that for two months but felt a little "off" to say the least. My doc switched me to losartan and been on that for a bit. Tomorrow is my first follow up since switching meds so I'm curious to see the difference. The lisinopril had my bp at 112/70 no matter what I did.
the lisinopril treats me just fine, and I take 40mg daily...good lord lol. I guess its a max dose. But last time I went for a check up my bp was like 125/70...damn near perfect. For awhile I was running about 135/65. I don't check myself on the reg and I know I should.
My teamate/coach thinks the lisinopril is a good one. He knows I'm on it and he never said anything to me about it affecting my athletic performance. And its all about us staying on point as much as possible, we are all pros, aspiring pros in powerlifting and such
40mg!!!! Holy shit bro, I was on 5mg a day and that had my bp down to the 112/70 from 165/100. Lisinopril is definitely a good med, unfortunately I was one of the 1% of men that got a limp noodle from it. So far so good with the losartan (25mg daily) but I'll see what the doc says tomorrow. Stay healthy DBG.
Yea. Family bullshit man. One of the few downsides to my genetics is cardiovascular shit is on both sides, it sux :(
The roids maybe just forced it along quicker, but I was bound to have issues later. You stay healthy too man
Holy shit, maybe we're cousins lol. Same family issues here on my mother's side. My doctor is treating me for familial cardiomyopathy. I'm sure the roids aren't helping either but the health issues are coming whether I want them to or not. He actually just started me on a beta blocker as well (Toprol XL)
Nobody wants to admit their getting old. I just don't want to act like I'm getting old.
That's the solution my friend haha
I agree. You're only as old as you act. That way I'll be a kid forever.
I am in my 40's. Only time I ever had issues was after a deca cycle. Guess I'm lucky so far.
RustyhookerDamn good to read. There's folks in si pages using big doses as their pwo. Idiots....lol
Lmao pre workouts huh don't know if the people at the gym would appreciate a massive Bonner as I worked out lol
Yup I read that same thing. Ive used cialis once and Viagra once. Won't be messing with it agajn the last thing I want is ED problems.