posted Sat, 11/16/2019 - 10:45
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Tbol or Anavar
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Was considering adding either Tbol or Anavar to 500 mg of Test E a week. Wanting something with low sides that don’t cause a lot of water retention.
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I’m looking to lean out. Currently eating right under 2700 calories a day, 233 grams of protein, 178 grams of fat, and about 35 carbs. I typically do low carb/ keto diets not because I feel they are superior but I respond well to them and I find myself more disciplined while on them.
RustyhookerSays below 15% so.... theres different ways to look at it. One, youve been off 6 years so really just test and good foods/gym should be plenty successful. Two woul be var at 50mg split the last 6 weeks til pct starts.
Do you have your pct lined up?
AnonNo pct, he's the trt guy
RustyhookerOh good...the rest then should be simple. Eat right and follow bloods.
Thank you!
Iron_Bound1Heres what I get told for everything I post. Do some research.
You could do both at lower doses respectively. Like ive ran them at 30 to 40mg each at same time rather than 50 to 60 of one. For example for some reason i get better results at dbol and drol at same time 25mg each than i have at 100mg anadrol. Maybe im just wierd lol. I like experimenting with synergy. Whats your goal exactly?
Both have crazy SHBG binding capabilities. Tbol more so from what I’ve read, but I never tested Free test that detected and read above 50 so I have no proof of this. Just reading and “feel” (and feel isn’t shit for sure, in reality). Both have great strength increases (although I have an opinion to which is better there). They break off a little bit from there.
Depends on your goals and history per the usual. Need more info from ya, boss. Can’t recommend anything without that.
Anavar is much more effective and has SBGH lowering benefits as well. Overall it's a great oral to stack with.
RustyhookerAge: 36
Height: 6’0
Weight: 250
BF:
Depends a lot on bf, diet and goals bro. Last blast?
I’m more around 235 than 250. BF is probably around 15ish but not certain. I haven’t blasted in over 6 years. I have been lifting for almost 21 years.
AnonCould just throw some proviron in then, with a higher bf% there's not a lot of good reasons besides strength and binding shbg to use var or winny. Free up some of the test in you already and capitalize on those gains, use the var or winny when you're already cut up. Both var and winny shine at lower bf%, they have some strength benefits for sure, but there's a trade off with joints/tendons for winny, and the boost of strength from var isn't as good IMO..maybe consider other orals as suggested above, tbol has many benefits and isn't too hard on you. Everyone responds different!
Edit; was this post edited? I thought it was between winny and var originally??
Thank you for your advice. It was originally between Tbol and Var. I had a feeling the BF would possibly be considered too high for Var. I also participate in a lot of submission grappling recreationally and if I added anything extra to test it would have to be something that doesn’t effect my cardio in a negative way. I don’t have to take anything and I’m ok with that I’m just considering possible options.
AnonYeah, clarify your use of the acronym TRT...Dr. prescribed? And what cycles before..?
It’s Dr prescribed. I’ve been on 100 mg a week for 6 years. After my labs a month ago I bumped it up to 250 @ 125 bi weekly. I have done a 3-4 500 mg test e & c a week, I have done deca and cyp 250 each a week for 10 weeks, Test prop and Tren Ace 100 mg eod for ten weeks and a few small sarm cycles while on trt. Outside of sarms I haven’t ran anything but actual Dr prescribed trt doses for the last 6 years until a month ago when I bumped it up to 250.
No one is going to condone you blast and cruising bro in open forum, and your gonna need to lay out cycle history , diet and gym routine proving you know what your doing before getting co-signed for orals.
Make some friends on eroids dude , you could learn a good bit through PM.
Well said
True story
lower Test to 250mg and run real anavar and focus on your training and diet and dont forget of eating bananas as well and cycle support and tons of water.
AnonWhy do you want to add?
Are you already running the cycle?
What's the goal here?
Bf?
That's both. But you may not need it based on your experience on ass. Is this your first cycle?
I have a few cycles under my belt. I’m currently on TRT but I have 6 month window before I see my doctor or anymore bloodwork is required. Wanted to blast for a little while then cruise back into my TRT.
AnonBust up a a couple prop cycles for 6-8weeks, you could do 2 that way if you're healthy...add an oral in the first one and get some private blood work done to make sure you've recovered any health markers that have gone out of whack.
All of this provided you're truly experienced enough to know what your doing. Your cycle history is vague, prop EOD or ED pins is the norm. Don't know if you're about that pinning life lol I don't mind it for 8-12 weeks..I do ED with prop because I feel a noticable difference.