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Agreed on that. Hmmm. Everyone will have different feelings and reactions. Some may have no reaction. May not work at all for some. Exactomundo
jayiskdo you consider the tren no ester stronger or better than TNE??
I consider them different. TNE has better balance between mental and physical energy and has a better all round feel good factor. TrnNE is more laser focussed, aggression and makes you feel like you can lift anything. I get easily annoyed when training and others are interfering whereas on TNE I’d just laugh it off make nice abs have a chat. To give you an example a number of months ago on the last day of my annual strength period I was testing deadlifts. It was during the week and so I was at “commercial” gym I use for during the week for after work training. I had my bar loaded I think at that stage with about 4 plates on each side and was chilling on a box off to the side and didn’t notice some guy unloading my bar and putting some of the plates on his squat bar on the rack in front of me. When I got up to do my reps I noticed and just lost it. So I tuned the guy out verbally but aggressively and loudly in front of about 50 people including the trainers that know me well - no one does aas at this gym. The guy was so shocked he almost started crying but did nothing so I freaked some more and started pulling the weights off his squat bar and throwing them about 3 meters back to my lifting platform next to my deadlift bar. Of course this made a lot of noise and I was a spectacle with the one trainer I know well stopping his session with his client and coming over to see if I was ok and to tell me to chill. The culprit at this stage literally ran away and I’ve never seen him again lol! I smashed my 1RM though. Long story to tell you that never would have happened on TNE where I probably would have made friends with the guy instead and offered for him to train with me. It’s not all the drugs of course - being amped and focused on testing 1RM’s is bound to get one rule duo but the TrnNE definitely added that edge.
The best part it where you throw the weight plates 3m back over to your platform haha.
This got me thinking big time. My bad for spilling this out in a reply but just brought memories. I wrote a review on some SustaTren a year ago. Was new to Tren and it was SustaTren E 350, (250/100), so 3ml a week, well, it said it was dosed at what I was led to believe and I did have some major sides around week 7 and got sick at the same time...but the incident wasnt about weight or a squat rack, (or somebody carelessly not paying attention and selfishly taking your shit, maybe he was being cocky and did it on purpose, I hate that. He should have asked, or maybe he thought that you would not stand up for your shit. he should have used his head and looked and asked around, but I assure you he learned a valuable lesson, that crap is a NoNo anyhow, it's your time, your ritual, your shit).
I had a similar incident, very similar but had to leave after a 20 min cause I'm an idiot might have gone overboard which I usually end up in the ER (been 15 years, I learned the hard way that I'm not that tough) getting stitched up or the like, but had to do with a very nice middle aged man and his friends who put the radio station from some good early morning tunes (maybe 4 others in the gym), to that loud Mexicaño muśica with that obnoxious bag pipe sounding accordian with the ole oioioioiyaaahaaa.
Oh fuckin put me Into a rage instantly and I handled it similarly after aggressively running my mouth asking him and begging him to tell me why and soforth? Oh man, I just maddogged him wondeing all confused and just pissed off. Could not even talk at all. humiliating on my part. Oh bro. I can tell you that you actually handled it much better than I did.
I just went nuts on the squat rack and beat myself up pretty bad for 20 minutes staring at the dudes just waiting for I dont know what, before I forcably threw myself out, and walked to my car. Stupid pissed, for nothing. It almost got that bad really over nothing. I cant say what I would have said or have done in your situation, but on the other guys part, he was selfish, if inexperienced or not it's in the Fn rules; that stunt was selfish and careless and DISRESPECTFUL and you kept quiet for the better part or just said the right things at the right time-from what I read which was the hella best thing to do. I know that your scene could had turned Into the fire dept as well as Live PD real quick, especially if he did it just to be a cocky asshole thinking that you were not going to do or say anything.
I mumbled and grunted and cursed under my breath and 2 of these guys had shocked looks on their faces. One had told me to just change the station. That pushed me off even more. He was afraid, more afraid than I was after I cooled off.
I know you were probably heated, if I were that guy, I may have left as well, because of the fear that I knew better and just did something really stupid. He should have said, "my bad, really sorry, let me put this back. My bad man" or at least tried, I may have. Maybe I would have just left just because I did know better and just really screwed up.
Long story short I had to leave and even stopped that cycle. Bad anxiety, anger just issues anyhow but just got worse with Tren. I wont touch Tren A without my Hydroxizine and clonidine. My lady shoves them down my throat. I'm good today, just came off 7 weeks of Tren A and loved it. So I feel you man.
Newbie or not and I know this isnt prison, but that kind of shit is disrespectful and he should have taken some responsiblity, but maybe his part in leaving may have been the right thing at that time. He should have taken some accountability though. Your gym, at that time is your time and your space there is just like a Boxing gym or MMA gym--ITs no different than a CHURCH in my eyes.
jayiskTried 100 mgs of tren no ester today PWO. Will need to try a few more times to draw a solid conclusion.
I liked it but it wasnt as strong as i expected.
No rage or aggression.
Actually made me happy throughout my training.
I do get hype off some Tren no E. The worst part for me is I turn into a fuckin water sprinkler. Sweating like a mfer. But you will get some sick focus and intensity is crazy. I love it but only here and there. Not everyday. Guess I need to try out the mtren from here.
what brand you used, in our equipment we never had tren no Ester, maybe later we will do as promised to dacky. our tren ace is already much stronger than the guys used around! told by them. With 100 mg of tren no Ester the anger would have exploded, so I think it's not real. I invite you to try our 5 mg Mtren inject and you will understand what I say!
So this massive nutter type of aggression & tunnel vision doesn't exist then? Does it ultimately just feel like a quicker version of Tren ace that disperses after a few hours?
jayiskI would say more focused and dialed into training. By on this first run no aggression or rage.
Its a good product. Not sure i can compare it to tren ace as there is no ester and used PWO as you already know.
Same as i couldnt compare test suspension/tne to test prop.
But i will be experimenting with it and plan to mix it with two other injectable compounds PWO. See if that turns it up a notch.
Was it Deads or bench you used it on?
jayiskToday was bench. See how squats go on friday. But i put the same level of intensity into the 3 main lifts.
Damn, Dacky...you scaring people out of gyms?? LOL....
Doesn't sound like you at all Dacky. Lol. Well.... Maybe the guy will turn to yoga
Hahaha i know 3 other guys that have used it all said same as you
Good shit brother
Respect
Dope
What is it suppose to be used for? A PWO or?
Yes pre-workout or of you’re trying to obtain steady levels at least multiple times per day - fuuuuck that.
DobermannLol,so i take it was a pump workout?veins poping and looking jacked for the rest of the day?
Yes amazon pumps and veins popping but I’m also on var so that’s contributing to the pump. Mainly it was a noticeable mental experience. Like I just felt razor focused and that my energy would never end. As well as mildly euphoric.
DobermannAwesome exp man;)
Thats concentration for y,like tren tunnel vision.
So here’s the weird thing. I’ve been using a lot of Tren Base in oil the last 12 months as one of my go to pre workouts when I’m needing that extra boost. It’s been excellent for that and I honestly didn’t think it could get better. But the Tren energy vibe is kind of like a bit dark and/or dirty and very physical. The DHT is just awesome and clear and clean - I sound like I’m describing needle point here lol but it’s the only way I can get it across. This was as much of a mental pump as it was physical. The only thing I can put it down to is DHT is naturally occurring whereas something like Tren isn’t.
DobermannPerfect pucture in my head now.i know exactly what u trying to describe now.i never tried dht but sounds lovely compound.plenty of Tren base use and still do.the legarthy that follows is not fun though.
Dht sounds safer choice right now.or at least change it up a bit so the body keeps guessing.
Good stuff man
Do you send the bluetops to germany ?
And do you know when the red tops Are in stock again?
Thank you
Yes sure, for info pm me only
Those that have run the metribolone how have you dosed it?
I've never run it alone but it is included in a preworkout blend I've used at 500mcg. I've read common doses are 500-1000mcg daily. The results from that preworkout blend are phenomenal. It also includes TNE, Tren base and Cheq drops so it's hard to tell what's doing what.
Ouch your poor liver! That is more hectic but remind me a bit of this other preworkout I have which is Halo 10mg, Tren Base 25mg and Superdrol 25mg. Amazing workout but followed by a day of indigestion and extreme lethargy. Needs to be run with nexium and gaviscon. I’ve also seen another mental preworkout from another source on her with 25mg Anadrol, 25mg Dbol, 50mg TNE and 50mg Test Base. I can’t really under how that’s all held in solution even when the inevitable use of Guaiacol.
Back to the Metribolone I have some and may give it a go for the last 2 weeks of this cycles. Think I’ll start with 250mcg x 2 per day and then up to 500mcg x 2 per day and see how that works out for me. I’m on Var at 50 to 100mg per day now so it’s between adding this or SD Injectable. Given how badly SD hits me with lethargy I’m leaning towards the Metribolone as an experiment. 1000mg per day TUDCA, milk thistle and another OTC liver support called LivPlus 60 Swiss Bio Energetics which I’ve recently found and is good stuff.
Lol yeah it's one of those that you can only run 2 weeks at a time...workout days only. I'd say it and SD are the 2 most toxic injects I've tried. Both are about equal in that regard. Liv52 has been popular here for a while. I wonder if LivPlus 60 is just an upgraded version of it?
Nope Livplus 60 is something I discovered when doing some research. The ingredients just made a little more intuitive sense than liv52 which does I admit have good independent research supporting its effectiveness.
So I’m on 1000mg TUDCA, high strength Milk Thistle x 2 per day and Livplus 60 x 2 per day. The Livplus 60 contains: Artichoke extract, Beetroot powder and extract , Burdock root extract , Cayenne fruit powder , Fennel seed powder , Dandelion root extract , Liquorice root extract , N-Acetyl L-Cysteine, Parsley piert extract , Alpha lipoic acid ,Turmeric extract , Garlic powder extract , Ginger root. A similar concept to the Liv52 but with NAC and ALA. I’ll see what my bloodwork says.
Just bought some of that Livplus 60, not that expensive either.