posted Tue, 07/23/2019 - 06:43
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test e and eq for the grrl update..
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I am 3 pins in and having issues with anxiety so I ve moved the pinning schedule to e3d day ... increased the test dosage to 160mg weekly and dropped the EQ dosage to 400.
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Anxiety because it's been so long since you pinned?
Nope... pinning a day earlier than planned seems to be working .... I was kinda waiting to see if pinning was going to be an issue since it's been so long but so far so good. I have had anxiety from EQ in the past at much higher doses so I can discern between anxiety from pinning vs anxiety from the compound.
Me personally, I have never gotten anxiety from EQ but I have never went over 600 and most times stay around 400. That sucks but at least you know your body well enough to know the difference. Good luck and keep us posted
thanks Top ... I think this is going to be a real good run
jayiskis there an alternative for the EQ that will work for your goals and not give you anxiety if needed?
either way its early on so best to give it sometime.
I ve always been a big fan of deca however I really want to see what the eq will do combined with this new diet and training program I know deca will make me ..big .. I want to see what I can do with some eq
Bold cyp gave me bad anxiety a couple years ago at 600mg. I had to drop it all together. Hopefully the lower dosage will work for you.
lower dose and more frequent pins seems to be working already. tomorrow will be a significant day to see if I start with the anxiety bs if so I may have to rethink what I am doing or wait and see if I adjust in after a few weeks
I think it was a good move to rectify the dosages of the compounds. Everyone is different and although I’ve never experienced the anxiety side effect I know it is quite common. I didn’t think the anxiety issues would occur within 3 pins. Keep us updated if the adjustment helps.
RustyhookerI wondered the anxiety part vs pins too. Over 800mg and i feel wonky but 750 is sweet. But i pin ed so maybe thats been the anxiety life saver?
I’m not sure if she front loaded the test but what is your test/eq ratio?
RustyhookerMy ratios change per goals and other chems. For me if i add mast e in there it changes everything. I can get away with no ai on 750 eq 400 test. If i add 300 mast e then test has to bump to 600.
600 600 just like that is simple for mass but 750 750 with sust is fun as well.
Too many variables so its trial n error.
Agreed, Eq is such a versatile compound there isn’t really a standard. As we all know the only must is running test at a minimum of a trt dose. I remember reading up on older posts of members claiming there isn’t much of a difference between 600 and 800 mg of eq but I’m sure as hell convinced there’s a difference if you run it at a gram. Most users don’t run eq long enough. 16-20 weeks is the sweet spot.
RustyhookerOr a switch on the norm is look at the sheer length of a sust eq run so long esters are closely matched. Those esters will linger a good 4 weeks. So its easy to clip both at 16 and run an oral or different short esters. Depending on where you are at 16. If you leaned up and rocky maybe anavar? Or mast prop? Or if bulk gains are still nice...tweak cals as needed and ride that train. Lol
I did not front load this time ... and to be honest I was surprised to already have the anxiety so quickly but I can only say that it's been so many years since I ve done an injectible cycle that I must be ultra sensitive ... the test is already working as well..Lol.
so far so good and I am due for a pin this evening
Keep us posted we are excited to see the changes and gains you make! Maybe I’m just biased because I just got some of that Queenzland EQ my damn self lol
lol I will definitely keep the log updated; I am doing a lot of off season volume work so I expect to see strength increases in how well I handle the additional volume and the higher weights.
jayiskAt least we know her src is solid and legit. So the gear is gtg .. :}
that we do ;-)
Grrl I would get anxiety to when I ran EG at 1000mg a week. Dropped back to 750 problem solved
seems to be the standard case for treating the anxiety issues.
I cant touch EQ, worst anxiety ever felt in my life
at any dose or pinning frequency ?
i only tried it once at 600mg per week pinnin once per week
yeah,.. I can't do that ... i find pinning the long esters for me is much better at 3x a week ....