Tren and aspirin
Hello everyone, I've been reading a lot of articles on tren as well as aspirin. I know this may be a bit of over analyzing but I would like to hear some of your thoughts about this theory.
The most common theory is that tren causes a decrease in cardio due to the increase of prostaglandins/leukotrienes in the lungs and for whatever reason this seems to be the most believed theory overall.
My theory is that if you were to take a lose dose of aspirin every day 81-162 mgs to suppress the prostaglandins it should help with cardio, and even tren cough which some and even myself have experienced.
Some of the studies that I have been reading that are published on ncbi have stated that even though it has not been proven exactly aspirin is believed to help with copd and shortness of breath.
I myself will be testing this theory in the coming weeks as I plan to run a test/tren cycle for 8 weeks and my main issue has always been the decrease in cardio. I would like to hear any input from you guys and let me know how crazy this sounds or if any of you have done this before. I will also experiment with flonase as well but of course not for the first 2 weeks to see if just the aspirin helps.
8 week Cycle plan:
Sustanon 750 q week m/w/f injections
Tren 300 q week eod injections
Caber 0.5 mg m/f
Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
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The asprin will prevent prostoglandins from gathering and clotting together, the formation of prostoglandins together is what a blood clot is and asprin certainly prevents that formation but does not thin out or lower blood pressure as commonly thought.
You need corticosteroids for the immflammation of respitory system such as prednisolone, this is caused by excess proteins called cytokines gathering in that area and the cortico will lower the number of bad ones and help raise the number of good ones.
The cough is caused from the carriers in oils which travel through respitory system when injected and irritate cappillarie endings and make you cough.
My grandfather died in november from lung disorder thats how i know this stuff, lots of research.
Any updates on this?
I confirm what other said, be careful with Aspirin. I have already noticed that some anabolic steroids have an influence on the coagulation time, in my opinion a blood test of sedimentation rate could be useful before starting anything. Also you are talking about leukotrienes that is what you should look for directly, because there are several forms of asthma that can be treated with appropriate medications. Obviously I am not a doctor, I only share with you the way I saw that some people treated the problem of the Tren and short breath with success. This way seems to me (maybe I am wrong) less risky of consequences.
Very true. The universal suppression of prostaglandins can also impact the lining of your stomach and more you more prone to ulcers.
Just another reason to look into CBD oil for its suppression since it only targets COX-2, unlike aspirin which targets cox-1&2
https://en.wikipedia.org/?curid=12744189
Be careful wit aspirin; it can cause unwanted bleeding and I got a hematoma while on it from a shot of Tren! Too much caber btw:
Rustyhooker1mg caber on mon and friday? So 2mg total per week? Have you run bloods before? If you crash prolactin you still create sexual issues.
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I took 1mg of caber by accident and I was sick for 2 days. Puking, shaking and very dizzy. Same thing with Prami. Average dose is .5mg also as prescribed by a doctor. 2mg a week? Must have been taking it for 3 months now to build up that tolerance.
And my favorite of all time, Tren cough. So if I take aspirin before I inject and hit a vein, will it stop my tren cough?
PcushionThe caber wagon... caber used often.. most often not needed. People love to throw that shit in any cycle containing 19-nors with zero lab work showing it’s required. Estrogen not kept in check, 19-nor activates progesterone receptor = let me take caber with no understanding how the trio interact.
jayiskI see some peoples orders and they order 1 or 2 bottles of gear, 1 or 2 AI's or AE's and dick pills..wtf!
sometimes this is just for test.
you are completely right bloods/labs are needed. You need estrogen to grow and if its in level and you add this other shit you are going to screw your cycle.
PcushionThe OP is in general confused he states he had prolactin sides will on nandrolone and didn’t have caber or anything else on hand aka NO AI. So he jumps to the conclusion that he is prolactin sensitive while posting zero lab work to back his claim. The main 2 symptoms in men with high prolactin are ED and gyno. Gyno is a symptom of high prolactin not a side effect... big difference there. His lactation issue is known as Galactorrhea and yes Caber solves the lactation aspect but it’s not a solution. The solution is to lower estrogen. He wouldn’t lactate without breast development aka gyno paving the way but hey what do I know... he is the one who works in the medical field.
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PcushionI felt compelled to lay the situation as plainly as I could. Lol I am glad someone else can see the bigger picture with me.
I myself am very prone to 19nor progesterone sides and even begin to lactate if I dont use caber, which happened when I was young and dumb and ran npp without caber or anything else on hand. On the other hand I am not very estrogen prone from test and aromatising compounds.
PcushionCaber doesn’t help progesterone...
jayiskdoesnt proviron to that?
PcushionActual progesterone battles prolactin. 19-nors are a different beast. They just have a high affinity for the receptor itself (tren having the highest) so they don’t provide the same prolactin defense actual progesterone does. As for battling progesterone your answer is to keep estrogen in check. So yes Proviron can help estrogen stay in check and in turn keep progestin sides in check. Any AI will do the same as will while taking 19-nor compounds.
jayiskthink i just confused progesterone with prolactin.
And yes I am a nurse and check my bloods quite often, I will post some post cycle.
Lol I meant 1 mg total 0.5mg on Monday and 0.5 on Friday as well. I tried to type this up real quick at work and didn't proof read but thanks for the catch.
Your post triggered my curiosity and I’ve been doing some research on prostaglandins and their inflammation/irritation of the lungs.
This one is for dogs, but talks about CBD helping with inhibit COX-2 similarly to NSAIDs
https://cannabissupplementsforpets.com/cbd-for-dogs-with-tracheal-collapse/
https://copdnewstoday.com/2018/03/20/long-term-aspirin-use-reduces-sever...
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I wonder if taking 325mg (the dose recommended for imminent circulatory issues) just prior to injecting could be useful for combating tren cough.
I would say about 45 minutes to an hour prior, and I'll give this a try, of course itll have to be with a little food as well to prevent gi bleed and ulcers.
What mg of Sust and Tren are you taking eod to come up with the numbers of 750 & 300? Did you mean to say m/w/f?
Yes, my bad I get spaced out when typing too much lol
You’re better off taking a little less and then really doing eod. Because you really will have a slight roller coaster at the end of each week and that’s not the optimal way to keep stable blood levels.
That's what I would like to do honestly but my work schedule is quite hectic and finding time to pin eod is a pain in the ass with. What you reccomend as an eod dosage?
Honestly, I hate recommending dosages because they’re really different for every person. Some people are OK with high dosages of test and some people do better with low dosage. And for each other compound it’s the same situation. So I would think about what you can handle in your body and how many side effects you’re willing to deal with.
I appreciate the honesty, I'm the same way with dosing recommendations especially tren because everyone reacts quite differently. I will probably start the cycle as mentioned above and either taper up or down with the tren. Tren is helluva drug and one that there isnt much of a solid base of knowledge about it. Hopefully this experiment will help in some way.
IanMcqueenAspirin is just another substance that I choose not to put in my body because I’m already putting so many things in it. That’s just me. I don’t like to put aspirin or ibuprofen in my body.
I used to take a half aspirin before weight training in college and it would greatly improve my recovery between sets. So much so that I could do 1 to 2 more reps on my second sets than my first even though I went to positive failure on the first set after having already done a warm up set. So it definitely improved my muscle endurance/recovery between sets. This guy I used to lift with turned me on to it. He said it was recommended in the steroid bible as one of the most anabolic legal substances out there
Oh wow, I will have to look into that, and thanks for sharing. My goal with this theory is really just to maintain as much as what I have currently without a drastic decrease in cardio. Currently I can run about a 6:10 mile, hit 325 on bench, 465 on squat which I know my strength will increase with the tren but I just don't want to fall off completely with cardio.
Yep, the good ole ECA stack. I supposed aspirin does more in that stack than solely keep the ephedrine active in your system longer.
jayiskif i remember correctly the aspirin in the stack was also to preventing possible blood clotting from ephedrine.
I seriously doubt a baby aspirin is going to compete with the effects/ sides of tren...but hey, give it a go partner and report back with your findings
That's what I'm thinking but shit it's worth a try, and I will most definitely give updates along the way.
Yeah, I will most definitely provide an update. I will start at 81mg and bump to 162 the next week and if no results, I will try flonase for the hell of it. I dont expect anything to completely combat the cardio issue but hopefully a little experimentation can make it tolerable.
PcushionI can tell you for a fact aspirin does nothing for endurance while on tren. Aspirin does work as blood thinner I take 81mg a.m. and p.m. I do it for general healths sake.
Right, I understand that, I was just thinking that it might help decrease the shortness of breath and tren cough due to the suppression of prostaglandins. I was thinking of using it in a way to combat the sides due to tren increasing prostaglandins. In no way did I plan on using thinking that it would increase cardio. And again this is just a theory, and I appreciate your input.
PcushionShortness of breath stirring coffee is very present even with aspirin on tren.
DobermannThinner blood means less friction while curculating.you
Might have something but the only thing you would exp is maybe lower BP due to aspirin.
The shortness of breath is a side effect.due to decreased vascular capasity from the tren.it wont do nothing vs that.
Aspirin being called a “blood thinner” is actually a misnomer. The way aspirin works (as a “blood thinner”) is by preventing prostaglandins which somehow cause platelets to coagulate and form clots. Which is why it is recommended to people at risk or heart attacks, strokes and other ailments caused by clots in their circulatory system. It does not actually “thin” the blood or “lubricate” it to make it flow easier.
Hope the information helps!
Yeah, it's a thromboxane inhibitor which doesn't all platelets to stick together and this is done by suppressing prostaglandins and is why I think it might be useful to help combat some of the tren sides.
DobermannTremendously,still do not see how aspirin is gonna help shortness of breath