posted Thu, 01/11/2018 - 08:30
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Fav EQ stack?
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EQ is on the list for my next cycle in April and was curious what people's experience is with this compound and what other compounds you've stacked with it that complement it well. I heard a lot of good things about EQ so tell me how you liked or disliked it. Thanks.
This will be my 6th cycle and wanted to possibly ad a oral at the beginning or end or both to the test and EQ. (Dbol beginning, winny end)
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Age 28
Weight 235
Height 6ft
Bf 15%
Currently finishing tren a test p cycle.
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My personal experience I run the EQ 18-20 weeks, but I would not run it higher than 600mg weekly. Just my opinion.
I like using EQ for lean mass. If you don't mind pinning a lot you can pair it with test prop for a great cycle that with proper diet will give awesome gains in lean solid muscle. If this interest you just FR me and let me know. Ill be glad to post some,specific suggestions for you to use as guide. Good,luck.
RustyhookerTest prop pinning eod minimum for 18 weeks is redundant.
Ehh the pinning doesn't bother me. Its worth the results I've been able to achieve. Redundant is using esterless test for a cycle. Lol. I tried that once. Never again.
RustyhookerYou and i know the rigors of ed pins on long cycles. Just have seen too many new folks done by week 6 and wasted a cycle. Definitely not for the timid or inexperienced.
You are exactly right. I should have put in there that was not a suggestion for a beginner.
I’m going on my 9th week and I’m sick of it ha!
RustyhookerI hear ya! By week 9 im finding new spots to pin. Lol
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Hashtag1981I just don;t understand why people use EQ when there is BOLD CYP available...the undecanoate ester is soooo long , I won't use any ester longer than enanthate.
Bold C often times has pip associated with it. EQ also will be stable at higher concentrations so you don't have to pin as much oil. Perfect blending oil also since it has no pip. I have ran both and prefer EQ over Bold C. For some reason I think the boldenone compound whether running cyp or EQ really starts to shine the longer it is ran. Bold C seemed to take like 6-7 wks before I really started noticing results which is almost on par with EQ.
I tried Bold ace once...it was some of the worst pip I've ever had. I usually don't suffer from it enough to make me NOT use a compound, but that's one I probably won't use again. Pain vs. gain not worth it.
Hashtag1981I see i see...well if i ever run boldenone..i will try the cyp ester. 2cc a week.at 200mgs ml . I just can't see myself using undecanoate ester...not that patient lol
I think,
EQ is extremely mild but its effects are nice. There is no mysterious magical property to EQ that makes a long cycle essential, thats just a misunderstanding of what it actually does/doesnt do.
EQ is so toxic for liver and kidneys you need to take real care with it - I advise against it for a cut and never with other toxic compounds. It also causes dyslipidaemia, so make plans for reversing that. Its liver and kidney damaging effects happen up to 600mg and from 6-900mg plus respectively - tudca might help. RBC has been mentioned already of course. And so on....
Then i see,
You basically havent done a bit of research on the compound at all. (Reading this thread isnt research.... seeing what it does as a growth promoter where its used legitamitely, is.... hell; reading the pharma pack insert is too). Out with dbol and in with winny var... ah sure you have a big old liver and 2 kidneys, hopefully just 1 kidney gets hit and not the other!!!! :-) (just kidding.... sorta)
But yeahp... its an interesting compound, nice effects.
RustyhookerStill have seen no proof on toxicity.....
My blood test with eq up high and pulsing drol came back with liver on the very bottom of "normal". Kidneys too. No tudca or anything. Have yet to see bloods posted showing issues.
Llewellen... phd....
https://anabolic.org/equipoise-boldenone-undecylenate/
http://www.basskilleronline.com/profile-equipoise.shtml
Then ya didnt look!
I told ya where to look, the terms to search and the years to search in
Also posted loads of links for you from eroids bloods posted.
Lead a horse to water... etc... but you will need to drink yourself!
;-)
Point me in the direction! I haven’t heard or read that but would definitely like to see some good research on it.
Edit - after a brief pubmed search I see a few articles regarding boldenone and kidney issues but I wouldn't consider them good research by any means and don't see the extrapolation to really support your claims. Definitely point me to the papers you're talking about cuz I could be missing it.
RustyhookerAlready replied on those non eq bloods you posted. Do i need to dig em up again? Lol
LOL i knew you'd come back with something that!
I've never really had good results with the TBOL but I like EQ and the longer you use it the better the results.
I'd only recommend To keep doing the test at 500mg and EQ at 600mg for a full 20 weeks as @JARHEAD2 mentioned and finish off with some Var.
Ok I'm excited now for this cycle I'll prob dump some blood prior to and stick with test EQ and Tbol. I was thinking this... please chime in with recommendations.
Weeks 1-6 Tbol 40mg/day
Weeks 1-18 test e 500mg/week
Weeks 1-16 EQ 600/week
May end it w winny or var
Hcg weekly aromasin eod
Pct nolvadex clomid
I'm not new to cycles but I am new to EQ and TBol but I heard dbol isn't far off from Tbol and I've ran that a lot. Are these doses sufficient fur good quality gains? And could I extend the Tbol? Or take a couple week break from oral then add var or winny to finish up?
bulk or cut?
First, I would run the eq 20 weeks. The added four weeks really helps brings the best benefit out of the Eq! I’d keep tbol at 6 weeks & 40 should be sufficient. I’d definitely close with Var if it were me & run it the last 8 weeks.
That's honestly what I was originally going to do but didn't want to hear no shit from some ppl for running so long. Any reason you choose var over winny to finish?
Rustyhookerbut didn't want to hear no shit from some ppl for running so long.
How then do you expect to get answers? I wouldnt advise eq for a newb. But someone whos growing and maintaining mass with a good chunk of cycles....sure. just make sure you use real pharma pct. Hcg too imo. Its a long time shut down.
I don’t care much for winny & I get better results from var. If I do run winny, I run it with NPP or Deca due to the way it dries me out so bad in my joints. Finishing with var I get tighter & fuller look.
420 test 720 eq
Got ripped and cardio was a breeze.
Go Steelers! I’m curious to see what people say to this as well. I’ve never ran eq yet but my coach is talking about for my next cycle running 600 test 1000 eq and 400 deca. Best of luck to you with your upcoming cycle man!
Hashtag19811000 EQ ...no worries on health there? How long do you run it , 16 weeks?
Nope health stays good for me. Everyone is different also and if you don’t have a few solid cycles in you I wouldnt recommend doing so
Hashtag1981my RBC is high on TEST E only...no way I will ever touch eq. or do a 16 week cycle lol
See this attitude right here.... smart man, lots viewing this could learn from you. +
RustyhookerSmart!! Dont mess with potential issues when your body already knows.
16-20 weeks generally & 1000mg is on the upper end, but honestly 800-1000 is what works best for me too.
You can combine your EQ cycle with Test.Pr. at first and finish cycle with Winny.
Anastrozole or Letrozole by test result of estrodiol.
And pct as you wish. (or Nolvadex)
RustyhookerUmmmm....no. pct on a long cycle is not as you wish. Or nolvadex. Its using methods that work like hcg and aro pct.
Can you elaborate on using aromasin during PCT? Wouldn't you crash estro levels when no more aas are being used?
Rustyhooker6.25 for the first 2 weeks was plenty for me. The origional layout of 12.5 can be a lil overkill. Everyone is different. Some guys need very lil ai while others use letro. Aro though will raise up your igf as a bonus because nolva lowers it.
In the Blood Group theres great explanation of why your axis wont reset if estro or prolactin is high. Well worth the read.
Here you go
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/ai-pct-dosin...
Nice! Thanks!
No problem bro... it’s a great read & very informative
250 mg test
500mg bold cyp (new favorite over eq)
50 mg t-bol
Been thinking about adding a tren or 1test-cyp to a cycle similar to that with dosages adjusted
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FIX YOUR STATS
Never ran EQ.
Go Cowboys.
If you are just finishing a cycle, april would be too soon to start another you need time off maybe get bloods drawn before you just jump back on the train.
If he was on a 6- 8 week cycle prior would it be enough time? Also I read something about giving blood every 6 months to control Hem. It's that just a book talking or real life? Noob still learning thanks in advance
I like 250mg test e and EQ between 600-800mg a week for 16 weeks. Make sure to give blood to keep your RBC down bro. Get blood tests done as well, before cycle, during and after
I love cycles like that. Was planning on test E 250mg and EQ 900mg soon. I might even go higher with the EQ because it’s never given me a side effect.
Exactly! It’s defintely the best combo I’ve taken. Especially when I’m playing hockey. I can go and go and go and not get out of breath. The cardio is intense and workouts are beast. I think that may be my next cycle this summer
I love EQ Bro. I’m on an EQ cycle now with Tren E. I wouldn’t stack anything with it besides an oral your first go with it. I like to start with adrol or Tbol & finish with var. Eq takes awhile before you feel the results due to the ester, so that’s why I like to kick start the first 4-5 weeks. I run 20 weeks to maximize the effects of the Eq as well. If you don’t already, grab a blood pressure cuff in you size & check it daily. I have an electric one that keeps all my info for me. I would also give blood the week before & 7-9 weeks in also. Good luck bro!