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Im planning on running a cycle of NPP or Deca 300/ Amps along with just 250, test e or test cyp. Can anyone give me advice on the best way to run the cycle and what pct and AI to go with? Expertise would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks bros!
GorillaSeason/ Jersey1107Jr
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Here you go bro
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-time-cycle...
GorillaSeasonThank you bro all info is much appreciated!
Nope you're new. Dont bs the people here. Its already been said below but I will as well being as Im still relatively new to aas. YOU must put together a cycle. Then if you still need help ask. When I 1st started my research and a source search I came across all sorts of advice and sites selling deca in a beginners cycle. They made it sound awesome! Joint relief, strength but...not one word about estrogen or prolactin. Or whar your diet should be. You need to set goals then build a cycle around them. Introduce 1 compound at a time. Dont jump in the deep end without getting wet 1st. Nonr of the guys on this page will give you shit advice. A lit of the guys around here give advice based on their own past mistakes. You wanna fuck your body up. Whatever. You wanna strong healthy body? Take advice and do things right.
Very well said jayzgains ,you can't learn by having others make your plans ,make them yourself post the plan and guys will add advise from there .much respect brother
GorillaSeasonMy first cycle was 30 mg of Dbol daily for a month , one pill every 6 hours, Test E 250 e3d(500 weekly) for 16 weeks i believe. Halfway through the cycle I took extrestane as my AI and Pct w Nolvadex and clomid but slacked off towards the end of the pct. At the moment everything is available to me and with the deca/ Npp i already have dostinex to fight off the negative sides and i have a cycle put together but i try to go with the least possible because I feel most advice i get is too extreme or abusing the gear so i was looking for some true expertise.
lol,
i honestly cannot believe your asking for the community to put together your cycle .. its like putting a list of aas in a hat. and pulling 2 out then saying hey gents how do i run this. ...
0 research , this is upright lazy at least put your own cycle together , or i take it you didnt even take the time to check out cycles , im -1 this. go do some research , look at cycle , read up on the compounds your going to use , throw some stats , AGE , and you say your not new in your intro , no ttrolling , i say BS .
GorillaSeasoni don't know what -1 means if you look at my previous response you'll see where I'm coming from as i see where you are . I'm looking for true expertise instead of just pounding my body with ugl oils which most people I know do
basskiller89Brother,
With all due respect, from this post alone, you are in so far over your head
These are the absolute most basic questions and answers regarding aas
No one is going to give you cycle advice when you’re lack of research and understanding is concerning
I’m not being mean but compounds and chemicals are not something to take lightly
Hit the diet section because I can almost guarantee you fixing your nutrition would have better results than any compound you can name
GorillaSeasonI respect your response and advice . Im new to forums and appreciate not being trolled. My first cycle was 30 mg of Dbol daily for a month , one pill every 6 hours, Test E 250 e3d(500 weekly) for 16 weeks i believe. Halfway through the cycle I took extrestane as my AI and Pct w Nolvadex and clomid but slacked off towards the end of the pct. At the moment everything is available to me and with the deca/ Npp i already have dostinex to fight off the negative sides and i have a cycle put together but i try to go with the least possible because I feel most advice i get is too extreme or abusing the gear so i was looking for some true expertise.
basskiller89You’re taking way too much gear brother
Seriously, hit the diet section and learn how food is what you need, not steroids
GorillaSeasonThis would be my second cycle and my diet has been solid for years now due to stomach disease. i ran two compounds last cycle with good results. Im not challenging your advice or expertise Im just curious why you feel deca and test is too much gear
basskiller89It’s because you’re asking that question we all know you’re in over your head. If you think you’re going to get bigger by adding deca you’re misinformed brother. 500mgs test got me massive. You’re talking about using dosages physique pros use for you’re second cycle. I don’t mean to be harsh or put you down but I have no problem being a dick to keep you safe. You’re proposing running dosages of aas that will greatly affect your estrogen, dht, prolactin and progesterone levels with little to no understanding of what that even means. Do yourself a favor and listen to what the guys are telling you. No one is trying to keep you small brother, we’re trying to keep you safe. I can 100% say for you 300mg test is more than you’ll need for a 12 week cycle. Take my advice. Muscle development is slow even with gear. You’re not gonna blow up running high dosages. It just does not work that way or everyone would be huge. It takes years of dedication and hard work through proper diet and safe supplementation protocols. You seem smart enough to ask for help. Be smart enough to listen to what we are saying. We want you to get big. But we want you to do it corrrectly and safely
GorillaSeasonMuch respect to you for that one, I had figured I was going to be good with the deca from my knowledge of dostinex , proviron ,AI's and things of that nature. But when you compared the dosages to physique pros , I started thinking of taking it slower . I think the destined/caber and all the great effects I read about it also had me more amped to run deca or NPP. Still would like to hear your opinion although I'm now planning on running Test Cyp for 12 weeks.
much thanks
basskiller89It’s good to see you’re not close minded, much respect to you for listening
Personally I would run 300-400mgs test weekly with adex or aromasin dosage dependent upon your e levels taken through blood work. That’s all you need for this cycle I promise you brother
Let’s talk about diet. Can you give us your calorie and macros totals along with the foods you’ll be eating
GorillaSeasonThats what I'm gonna go by man , what is your opinion on front loading? From my research its seemed to make sense.
My diet is heavier in carbs than most because i am a carb counter (due to type 1 diabetes so I'm insulin dependent) and for the record gear has only had little effect on blood glucose levels , with advice from my doctor. I try to incorporate complex carbs in every meal 5-6 decent sized. High protein (eggs, nuts,peanut butter steak , and fish with a caution on how much tuna due to mercury. the fats i use with my breakfast is always olive oil with whole wheat . i know i can definitely make my diet more strict and controlled , as a diabetic I've always relied on my usual diet. Whats your opinion?
RustyhookerInsulin dependant and steroids is a huge hazard!!!
GorillaSeasonI agree thats why I have my endocrinologist following my bloodwork thoroughly . Its all on a personal basis on how gear reacts on a patient. Luckily i just have to take a small - medium amount extra of 24 hour coverage about 6 weeks into the cycle and through the pct process I gradually go down to the a less amount of insulin as the hormones change
basskiller89I personally don’t front load every cycle. I don’t see it making much difference here either way
Diabetes and gear is not my forte brother. From a calorie stance and what you’ll need to grow I can say that your usual diet foods are probably fine. You will need more overall food and calories to grow
I would make a post in the diet section and let our other brothers know your cycle and medical condition. I’m sure they can help you fine tune
GorillaSeasonMy diabetes doesn't get in the way of cycling so Ive never had to consider it in the equation. i will post in the diet section and do more research into calories because thats clearly my weakest point in nutrition . Anything else you can throw my way I'm always open to any good suggestions . I front loaded my test cyp this week.
basskiller89There you go brother, good luck this cycle
The guys can help you adjust calories and macros
Yup, nailed it
basskiller89I wish I came here when I started
Well said bro
basskiller89TY, it had to be said
Hopefully he listens and avoids damage to his body
Dear In accordance with the forum rules the answer is very simple - use pharmagrade products... if this need for such cycle.
RustyhookerStats, goals, priors..... delete brand!!!
GorillaSeasonAlready done, sorry , new to forums . 27 years old 6'0 190lbs Solid diet , have no clue about body fat index. This is my second cycle . I ran dbol and test e and had great results. at the end of my pct is where i fell off and took a hard break from training because my father was diagnosed w/ cancer and died 6 months later. he was the original Jersey1107 and taught me all I know, now that I'm back I need someones true expertise
RustyhookerI would stick to a simple test only cycle. Theyre fully laid out in first cycle group. Community....groups...first cycles. Build it and post it up top by editing. Post stats goals and your plan fully
GorillaSeasonI should stick with test only even for my second cycle? The last was dbol and test e. I will deff edit my post with my full plan. Much thanks
basskiller89It’s fun answering the same questions with the same answers every day lol
RustyhookerMillenials.
"Give me a large order of gear with all pertinent info."
Pulls forward.... welcome to mcdonalds sir. Burger king is 2 blocks up. You want it your way, then skip rocks.
Lol
basskiller89Seriously,
Why is it so hard for kids to understand more gear is not better
I've seen test, deca, tren, 2g 12 weeks cycle posts lol
GorillaSeasonfor ONE I'm no kid. and TWO im inquiring about a good deca cycle because all the cycles I've had help putting together have been way overboard and i don't want to abuse it, i wanna use it the right way . Im not the expert, i have some knowledge but far from an expert , my expert passed away. Thats why I'm here
RustyhookerDropdowns up top....community...groups....first cycles explained
RustyhookerLazy. Simple. If i look good and im strong...its completely food and gym. If im fat...i ate like shit. They gotta learn as well i guess
You can’t talk about brands in the forums.
GorillaSeasonthank you its handled