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Estro management

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Since last time I posted I have learned alot about myself.
I'm one of those who are very estrogen sensitive, i need that to be extremely precise so everything is functioning properly.

Been on cruising dosages since this summer. Suddenly 2weeks ago started to get high estrogen signs. Acne, some beginning of wood isses, delayed cumming ect. Know what to do but thats always a bit of experimentation until sweet spot is reached.

Could prolactin be elevating on a cruising dosages, has anyone heard of that?

And just as a wondering dont even know if this would be possible, maybe only in theory.
Would estrogen management be more simple if the body's estrogen production would be tanked to zero. Then as we supplement with testosterone some estrogen (something simmilar like Broderick Chavez talks about in the AAS podcats with Lyle mcDonald) would be added as well. By doing that we would know exactly how much we have and could dial it precisely in.
Like I said just a wondering but would be intersting to know if that has been done.

Bearded_muscle's picture

An estrogen test is like 50 bucks. Just do it.
What's your cruising dose and pin schedule? I was looking but I don't see it listed anywhere.

DfromPhilly's picture

Edit: Dr. Bro has you covered. Shoulda read first but I posted the same thing essentially.

Get bloods for test e2 and prolactin (if your e2 is normal or you want to know for sure) along with the other norms. Don’t guess.

Brickiemuscle's picture

this is what you need to be talking to your doctor about. if you have self prescribed trt go back to the drawing board and look to do it the right way. you cannot keep guessing when it comes to health when your 60 and still pinning yourself without the doctors guidance. health is number one

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JARHEAD2's picture

Not what was asked though. Smile ......

That’s what he told me ;-/

Dr.BroScience's picture

"Would estrogen management be more simple if the body's estrogen production would be tanked to zero."

Absolutely not! Crushing your estrogen is as detrimental if not so more than too much estrogen.
"then supplement with testosterone some estrogen ..would be added as well"

So , if I am understanding you correctly, you are considering exogenous testosterone combined with an estrogen crushing AI, then implementing exogenous estrogen to " dial it precisely in".

Please do not tell me you, as a man, are considering supplementing exogenous estrogen!

That could possibly be the worst idea I have heard yet , since spot injections for your testicles!!

Just stop what you are doing completely

Take your time then to , research research research and find out what truthfully the term "dialed in" actually means

zhrg's picture

Hi

First bloods have been taken, my estro is high-ish (did not get tested for prolactin), not terrible but was enough for me to get acne and starting to feel bit of sexually. Currently slowly adjusting my adex dosage for that so I wont tank my estrogen in the process.
Currently cruising on 200mg/week.

The rest was just general wondering (not doing anything like that) after I listen to a podcast with Broderick Chavez and Lyle mcDonald. There he talks about some Mexican brand he bought and used that was 100mg of Test E and 10mg of estradiol. And to quote him "that shit worked like fucking magic".
Therefore the question was/should have been since it was not clear, has anyone heard of something like that stuff and wouldn´t it then be easier to always have exact estradiol you want. Just to tank your own production with aromasin, and then take exact what you need of it for optimal performance exogenous with your test.

The other was if anyone knows if there might be a correlation between high prolactin and high estrogen.

Again, Im not doing any of this other than just adjusting my AI

Best regards

vhman's picture

That could possibly be the worst idea I have heard yet , since spot injections for your testicles!!

What!?! We're all going to have to fine a new "go-to" spot!

KING's picture

What is your "cruising dose" how long have you been cruising and what was your most recent cycle and length of that cycle ?

JARHEAD2's picture

Are you cruising with a 19 nor?

zhrg's picture

Nope test E

JARHEAD2's picture

Prolactin shouldn’t be a problem.... I’m not sure which AI you’re using, but the side effects of low estrogen & high estrogen are the same in many ways. I recommend blood work asap. No sense in guessing. If you crash your estro, it’s hard to rebound sometimes & it plain sucks. I’d never consider the idea of depleting my estrogen & taking time estrogen shots to know exactly where it’s at.... again that’s what blood work is for my friend

zhrg's picture

Been through this rollercoaster earlier this year. I know blood is the key. Estro is high-ish btw.

Not what was asked though. Smile

JARHEAD2's picture

Good luck