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+ 2 Pharmacom Tren Base and Letrozole

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Received this from Pharmacom thru there generous promo last December. I typically take Letrozole with my test cycles, .5mgs EOD works great with Test doses around 500mgs/week and another compound added. I have always wanted to try the Tren Base and the promo gave me a chance to get something I wouldn't normally spend the money on, and it was a great choice. I took it while using Tren A at 25mgs/day, I really do not see a point taking the base unless already using a Tren. I took 50mgs/day on workout days, it did pass thru a 25g pin but took some effort sometimes sticking and needed a hard push, for drawing I used a 23g and worked fine. It does separate and settle very quick so gave it a nice long shake right before drawing, the good thing is it draws very fast so it's equally suspended. I was surprised that it had zero pip switching from glutes to delts (I cannot inject legs at all, it hurts no matter what I'm injecting like I'm hitting a nerve for some reason). The effects were a noticeable pump increase and a greater drive while doing reps, it's not like a stimulant fealing but more like I just felt stronger and pushed thru a few more last reps. I'd like to try lowering it to 25mgs/day and see the effects, which would make a bottle last longer. I Def recommend giving it a try if you're already running a Tren.

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Straightoutta973's picture

The effects were a noticeable pump increase and a greater drive while doing reps, it's not like a stimulant fealing but more like I just felt stronger and pushed thru a few more last reps.

Did u actually use this product???

Jeepman78's picture

I'm sensing some disagreement with what I observed while using the product.

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SuperMax's picture

Looks good!! But 5mg eod is kinda high!! The absorption rate would crash e2 fast!! Why not go with 2.5mg ed? Keep hormone lvl stable?
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stairmaster's picture

he wrote 0.5 eod Smile

SuperMax's picture

Oh snap, my B. Good catch lol

Jeepman78's picture

Lol, yea it's only .5mgs EOD. The first time I ever took it was 2.5mgs/day because I had heard it can reverse signs of early gyno and it really did work. Since then I found that 1/4 tab EOD works very well. So it's slightly over .5mgs because it hard cutting up the tiny pills. The second benefit is for the price it does last along time, it's about 1 pill a week.

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Cade35's picture

X2. I did the same thing. Had bad gyno and did 2.5 mg ED. Totally shut me down, no sex drive, felt dry and crusty as he//, but knocked out my pre-existing gyno. Not completely, but enough to visually notice. Over all it was worth it. I bounced back abt 2 weeks after I stopped. Letro, when properly dosed is imho the best ai you can run. Nothing dries you out like letro. Thanks for the info on the tren base as well, I was contemplating using it with some suspension for pre workout

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helloBrooklyn's picture

Pharmacom's tren usually pretty good?

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These are the first products I have ever used of Pharmacom. I actually never heard of them before until finally creating this eroids account last Nov and seeing the promo. Great chance to try a new brand, I picked the Letrozole because I always use it as an AI so I know the effects, and always wanted to try the Base. I wouldn't run the base only for a Tren cycle just because of the cost, but in addition it works great as a pre workout and I'd like to experiment with a 25mg dose to stretch the bottle even more. For me it's not like it gives me energy and motivation, I tried a dose on an off day and didn't notice anything, but it seems to work if you're at the gym and then all of a sudden you just feel stronger and want to do more reps.

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helloBrooklyn's picture

Good to hear that it works. I got some pharmacom tren e lying around that I've been hesitant to use because I've read some so so things about their tren. Best way to find out is to try it myself though, as certain other boards can be… prone to mass hysterics and witch (source) hunts.

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I like Tren E, mainly because it is lower costing than Tren A per ml. For me I have had good results using Tren A 100mgs 3xweek or the Tren E 200mgs 2xweek. With the difference in weight between the 2 esters that gives 261mg Tren A and 288mg Tren E per week. The only bad sides I seem to get is night sweats and trouble sleeping. For sleeping I have found taking Magnesium before bedtime to really help, knocks me out and can stay sleeping plus it has a few more benefits.

I must say I haven't come across negative reviews on pharmacom products. The only time I go on steroid chat boards are if I'm researching a product and it happens to be talked about in the chats and I'm directed to it.

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helloBrooklyn's picture

I'm gonna kickstart the tren e with tren a and get the best of both worlds Smile

Ive seen plenty of negative things about pharmacom, be it underdosed gear, bunk gear, mislabeled vials, ineffective orals, or that they lie about getting 98.5% purity raws (I'll keep my opinion on that last one to myself). Yeah, here most people love their products. On a certain other famous steroid board--rhymes with Mexican unit of currency--not so much.

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Some people aren't honest and have different motives for saying negative things. You're right, the only way to tell is to try it out for yourself. Even on here recently I have noticed alot of brand new user names that come on bashing and saying nonsense things, then you look at there profile and they only have like one or two comments then end up quickly banned. I'm fairly still new on here but I'm learning who are the real and honest guys.

I'm on Tren A right now and have Tren E to switch over to. How would you run it, with switching? I'm thinking of starting the Tren E while still dosing the Tren A for 2 weeks, that should give enough time for the Tren E to start building up. I like using the Steroid Calculator that I found online to actually plot out and see how the levels will be. It's a nice tool to have.

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helloBrooklyn's picture

I think in terms of 6 day per week weeks. Probably tren a 50 mgs ed and tren e 150 mgs e3d for a total of 300 mgs tren a and 300 mgs tren e per (6 day) week for 4 weeks. Then week five and on 300 mgs tren e e3d. I'll have to see if it works.

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I plotted that out and it appears that by weeks 4-5 your levels will be around 80mgs/day, then by stopping the Tren A and continuing with the Tren E your levels will drop way down to 40mgs/day for the rest of that cycle. I'll try and link to the graph that came up.

https://roidcalc.powerbody.ru/clc.php

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helloBrooklyn's picture

I see what you mean. I plotted it myself. I still have much to learn. I'm glad you pointed that out. I'll have to tweak this a bit.

Those graphs are handy!

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It really is a good tool so you can actually see how the different esters will end up releasing, and can see how much of the compound for any given day. At first I did enter using only 300mgs/week of the tren E, after changing it to 600/week it did even out more. But notice how weeks 4-5 It peaks then drops, and then continues to rise. I put in for like 11 weeks and it still climbs. I'm going to mess with it and let you know what I end up coming up with.

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helloBrooklyn's picture

After playing with this for a half hour, a similar cycle I came up with that's damn near perfect on the graph is:

50 mgs tren a ed weeks 1-4
100 mgs tren e e3.5d weeks 1-5
(last pin of 100 mgs overlaps with first pin of)
350 mgs tren e e3.5d weeks 5-10

Doesn't exactly seem intuitive, but that's what I got

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I forget what the numbers are exactly, but try just plotting out the Tren E, on the first injection do 1150mgs, then the second do 700, then continue with 350 E3Days. See how fast the levels climb and level out, I think it's by the second week, as opposed to doing regular dosed injections which take like 5 weeks to climb to stable peak levels.

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helloBrooklyn's picture

Never thought of front loading tren like that. Clever. Unfortunately I can't determine screwy blood levels by acne as I physically can't get oily skin because my sebaceous glands are fried from a recent run with isotretinoin. Those graphs are gonna help a lot.

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I'll give it a look. I have 2 more bottles of each to use, so I want to utilize both the best I can. It's great because it shows if you're just wasting gear, having levels look like a roller coaster. Also cuts down on side effects, for example not getting acne which I feel is a side effect of fluctuating levels.

I first used this calculator to figure out the best way to frontload, and doing it right it's possible to get levels up by the 2nd week and keep them level the whole cycle.

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helloBrooklyn's picture

That graph doesn't show up for me. Did you plot the tren e for 600 mgs per week after week 4? Bear in mind the tren e dosage doubles at that point.

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yes all

stairmaster's picture

nice promo stuff! on 2nd pic tren looks a bit white like winny base.

Jeepman78's picture

Yes, it's water based. When shaken it looks like dirty milk. Lol.

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