OK so after about 10 weeks total, 4 weeks bulking, 1 week stomach flu, then another 5 weeks bulking, Ive had a high weigh in at 264.4..... Not nearly my goal of 275lbs starting at 245..... But Im satisfied with my progress so far and will start a (mini cut ) Monday for 3 weeks of no carbs, High protein and med fat. Why? Cause Im going to cancun with my wife in 3 weeks and wanna loose some of the extra fluff from this offseason. Ill run the rest of my sust and npp and include a small winny dose to help preserve tissue on such a diet. Once I get back from my week long vaca. I have about 6 weeks untill prep starts, or 2 weeks to let loose untill im 20 weeks out which is where i start cleaning up diet a little. So Ill come back and update what My final weigh in is the day I start my (cut).

ok little update.
At a high of 263lbs, im feeling a bit better. joint and tendens are bugging me which seems weird but it must be cause my estro is a little low so im backing off my blockers a little at a lower dose.

got a new bench PR at 315x 6 since 2 weeks ago which was 315x5.
I have noticed my recovery is garbage lately two cause Im always sore everywhere besides legs. (my legs are a strong point)
Also I ran out of dbol yesterday so Instead of finishing cycle wand running for 3 weeks i only ran it for about 1.5 weeks.

cheers till next time

updated. 8 weeks in.

I seem to be fine with the npp back to 400mg a week. So im thinking it could have been the igf that i was running along side it,( i read that somewhere that does possibly increase your prolactin levels.)
My weight is back to floating around that 255-260 mark. So now im just going to buckle down, force a little more food and keep training hard to hopefully get up another 5-10 in the next 4 weeks. I will be running some dbol to close out the cycle, starting that in a little.

update as of 12-19-16
So i got the stomach flu last weekend on friday and went home early as I stated. Well after a good week back iM up to 255-256 and slowing moving the up again. Strength is still really good and i intend to keep it that way. All sides are gone besides a little ache on my head which I seem to get here and there weather Im running gear or not.
started npp back to 400mg week and continuing my ai as normal along with prami at .25 mg ed since it doesnt seems to bug me too much like alot of people.

ok so, update, Finally nips are back to normal, Id say 98% back. Thats the positive note. On the other side, on friday at work, i had to leave early cause i wasnt feeling well, and was still gonna try and make the gym till about 2-3 i was in some pretty bad pain. I`m guessing it was the stomach flu of some sort. I was in bad all day, and all day saturday and didnt make it to the gym either 2 days. Also only was able to eat once after barfing and shitting water all night friday night. Sunday are my off days so I havent been to the gym in 3 days. I did start feeling better Sunday and today about the same, No crazy pain, no throwing up, just crazy diarrhea still and hard to eat but i can still get the food in now. The other bad news in I woke this morning not wanting to weight myself but i had to so i could see the damage...It was 248lb, dehydrated and empty as hell. So I will keep everything posted on how fast I get my weight back up to normal and keep gaining to reach my goal.
Ps I also lowered my NPP to 300mg a week for now and took out IGF-lr3 to help with the prolactin/gyno issue. Might go back up to the 400mg a week to see if i can handle it or if 400 is too much for my body then back off again.

So its been almost 2 weeks tomorrow I started caber for my prolactin issue and nothing has improved. I upped my arimidex and taking caber, .5mg 3x a week( i know 2x a week is protocal) and nothing have improved.
Either the source are sending me fake shit or I need to try something else, prami is here tomorrow but also from progen. Ive used them in the past, clen, t3 etc and seemed to work, I go the shakes and all thats good stuff so it was def legit so maybe they have half good half bunk stuff. Im kinda stressing out cause i def dont want to cut my cycle short( about 5-6 weeks) but if i have to i will back off the NPP.

So quick update, Ive noticed my dam nips are buggin. So Ive been taking caber for just over a week now and the sensitiveness hasnt gone away and even a slight hardness but not an actual ball. Been like that for about 10 days, stopped dbol and upped the armiedex and even through in a little letro since that also took care of it last time i got this but also ordered prami cause why the hell not. Didnt really notice to much cause my sex drive is still on fire like usual, always wake up with a wood which ive read thats a good indication to start running caber etc cause thats a sign of prolactin and gyno problems. but never had those signs besides the nips. So Im going to give everything another week to kick in and Ill update on that aspect.

Quick update. 4 weeks in today. Done with orals. Weight is a solid 260 now instead of around 255lbs. Bench is still 365 max but well see tomorrow. Im going to start going with how many reps of 315 i can do instead of maxing. I got 405x7 lasty week and deadlifts are up to 495x4.
trying to set my new split up with either

m-chest tri 4 arms
t- back shoulders calf
w-off
t-chest bi 4 arms
f-back delts
s-legs calf
s-off
or
m-back bi 4 arms
t-delts tri calf
w-off
t-back bi 4 arms
f-chest tri
s-legs calf delts
s-off

I want to make sure they have enough time to rest a grow but I also need everything to catch up to my legs.

quick update, floating between 255-260 this last week. got 365 up once, strength is there. I feel like I may not be getting enough food in me. Today Im about 2.5 weeks in so Im probably just need to be patient lol Im up 5-8 pounds in 2.5 weeks so really I`m a decent start. Deadlift i wasnt able to go to crazy, I get muscle spasms in my lower back and that can kill my strength but was able to do my 465x5.
and btw the 405x5 sqaut was on a smith. Saturday I did free weight squat and got 405x4. ( btw Im an ass to grass squater. If your ass dont touch your heels... you aint sqauting.
Will post once i get chest in again on Thursday which will be the third week mark.

Been one week tomorrow and havent seen much( its only been one week lol ) but my weight keeps going from 248- 252 so well see with another week.
today is chest so well see what just one week has done as far as strength on my bench which will probably be nothing much. But well see.
my carbs are anywhere from 300-500 depending the day and protein is always around 275-315. fats are also pretty close 60-80 depending on the day. After next week if nothing has change Im going to add another 2 scoop shake sometime in the middle of the day

Just wanted to log here:
11/3/16 (never max out (usually do 2 or 3 reps. )
weight: 252lbs

flat bench: 335x2
squat: 405x5
half deads: 465x5

Again i keep a log of each workout / exercise rep and set but these are the three i wanna keep track on here for over strength gained from this go around.

today is first day of road to 275lb. Ill update slowly as the weeks go on. I will not go to 275 if i have to gain too much fat. Id like to stay around my 12% at 253lbs right now and will to sacrifice a couple % but definitely not going to add weight just to add weight. My bench has always been weak AF and yesterday i tried 335 out only 2 times. So i will try and base it off from there. Each week to 2 I will update

Wanted to say thank you to everyone and there input and advice. After going back and forth what seems like forever for my bulk cycle I have updated the OP to show what i plan on running.

Again I have letro on hand and have experience with it and will use as necessary and im ordered my tunca and will be here before i start cycle. Also have cabor on hand just in case.

I will come back to this post or make a new one if people prefer about the cycle as i go.

Instead of starting a new thread figured I'd just ask her.
Would running npp for the first 10 weeks at 200mg a week and deca for 12 weeks at 200mg.
Would that basically be the same (besides npp kicking in Faster ) as running deca at a total of 400mg
Basically what I'm asking in simple terms ....I should see similar or same results as far as what the compound is meant for , using both npp and Deca then just using deca at the same.
Wanting to possibly use npp to help get the deca working faster.
Hope that makes sense

Ya Im started to lean towards #2 also since I had great success with deca with a low dose and Ive ran tren in my last i dont know how many cycles And would be a nice break. Id love to throw in some dbol for the first 4 weeks but I cant stand the liquid suspension form so i was hoping since sust has a little prop things will kick in faster.

Also i currently on offseason, eating 60 fat, 300 carbs and 275 protein. These are prepped meals, breakfast and a shake after the gym. I also have whatever i want on top of that, which i dont keep track of since its usually not much and or everyday. Something like a bowl of cereal sometimes or some chips. But here is what i eat on a daily prepped.
2 whole eggs, 3/4 cup whites. 2 bread, 2 packages of oats with a scoop of protein in.

i prep 4 meals and totals are 20oz of cooked meat, varies (chicken beef, turkey) and 500g(cooked weight) of rice. Each meal is 5oz meat and 125g of rice. All veggies i dont count, i know. Terrible. But i never count my macros on broccoli sorry.

my shake is 2 scoops of protein and 1 1/2 cups of FF milk.
And yes since it offseason i tend to have something at night, a little ice cream or whatever. I tend to go off the mirror and scale if Im eating to much junk, i back off for a bit, if not gaining enough I up my rice or fats.

I only posted the price difference due to since id have an extra 100, someone might chime in and say get another bottle or 2 of deca or add X to the top cycle. I have a family and yes, cost is a thing in anyones life i hope. I hope no one on here thinks, $2k for an offseaon bulk cycle, that aint shi and have the mind set of having no budget when planning a cycle. ! Like lets be reasonable here. If i have to spend a little more cause i wanna up my deca dose ya, ill get another bottle but Im not a retard and think I have to spend 1k for a good cycle. And No I always have chicken on hand. I sometimes go a little overboard and i need a bigger fridge when it goes on sale lol. Red meat, eggs etc.

PS i never said i was basing it off a budget anyways lmao. I`m basing it off of what Ive ran before, and what dosages Ive ran with the compounds. Lets not get all guns blazing and start assuming things I never said i was basing it off. My prep cycle cost me> i dont know really cause i got what i needed and wanted. 600-700 maybe. fuck could have been a grand. I got it in phases lol

Ok guys ill edit my OP soon so its accurate to the changes. So I think Ill keep it simple to either these 2 cycles. dosage advice is welcome.

1st
Test sust. 520mg wk 1-15
deca eth 625mg wk 1-12
(this is about 100$ cheaper the option 2 as of now)

2nd
Test sust 520mg wk 1-15
eq eth 535mg wk 1-14
tren ace 200mg wk 1-5
tren eth 200mg wk 1-5
300mg wk 6-8
(this option is 100$ more)

Why i have it this way is budget.

I appricate everyone being so nice and real in this forum unlike alot of others.