posted Thu, 11/24/2016 - 06:08
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+ 1 Advice on pct and general look to this cycle
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Hi there I'm currently running this cycle:
Weeks 1-4
Testoviron 250mg/week
Bolde 350mg/week
Primo 400mg/week
Proviron 50mg/die
Weeks 5-8
Testoviron 500mg week
Boldenone 350mg/week
Primobolan 500mg/week
Oxandrolone 40mg/die
Proviron 50mg/die
hcg 500iu Monday and thursday starting on week 4
arimidex 0.5 EOD
I'm at 5 week of my cycle at me moment, I'm undecided if extend from 8 weeks to 12 weeks what is your advice?
after 2 weeks off i would start my pct, But I don't know if it is enough for the compounds I've used
Pct:
Week 1-2
nolvadex 40mg die
clomid 100mg die
Week 3-4
nolva 20mg die
Clomid 50mg die
I would keep the PCT for 45 days instead of 4 weeks
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Looks like you've been given solid advice. Next time just make sure your ready for a cycle. You wasted a lot of money.
I know, I will do more reserch on my own, and not pay a pt for this. thanks !
Trash this cycle. 2 many compounds with no synergy. Long esters run short times. Drop the long esters keep the test for two more weeks. Pct and start over time on plus pct equals time off. Put together a sensible cycle. Do more research. Learn how to eat and we will help you. Right now you got no base of muscle. Your trying to run a boat load of gear. The only thing anabolic that will co
E from this is your urine. Sorry brother but you got bad advice. Pct. read. Come back and we will shoot you strait. Food plan is where you need to start
thanks a lot for your help, I got bad advice but fortunately I asked here...
what do you mean no base of muscle?
I think my food plan is good...
Your a little light. Need some beef on that frame. Up your food intake. Hit big weight. Large compound movements
I would do it, but I need to remain in a certain range of weight due to my sport, I practice brazilian jiu jitsu i must be around 80 kg, I asked to my pt a Cycle that gives me very hard muscles, ripped body, and a bit of more muscles
thanks a lot for your help
+1 for taking constructive criticism and implementing it
Really! Have you done any research? Do you know about eaters and half life maths - https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/check-your-es...
I took a look at your pic. Before you even consider a cycle how about spelling out how you will eat for your goals. Oh and what is the goal exactly? I'm assuming bulk? It's my birthday today so hopefully you will give me the present of being open to taking advise and getting this right before you mess yourself up.
P.S. next time post stats, goals, prior cycle details, diet and training upfront to get proper cycle advise.
Hi Dacky thanks for your reply,
First Happy Bday!
then,
My bad no, I didn't any reserch.. to be honest This is the first time that I ear from test prop taper... and I never heard talking about this here where I live... Now i'll read your link, thank you for linking it.
My Goal is to get a bit more muscles and be "ripped", but I have the limit of the weight that is 80kg (Due my sport, jiu jitsu) , I would like to achive this weight but be ripped... like "physique" prior I had some cycle but was totally a mess like this.
For this kind of advise I have to post the whole diet? or just my Kcal and gr of macros?
Thanks a lot for your precious advise.
Fella you don't need ass to be lean at 80kg. Diet and the right training will do that for you. I'm happy to help you with your diet and get you on track. I'll come back to you tomorrow with some thoughts.
Ok Thanks! Waiting for you, to be honest I would run a cycle to get better shape and a bit weight.. well thank you so much!
If I can, tomorrow can I ask you some question in Pvt messages?
thanks
Sure no worries. I'll accept your FR now.
thanks a lot for your help I really apreciate it!!!
unreal89I personally would drop everyrhing except test and proviron and run it for 2-3 weeks then come off test and wait 2 weeks for pct
so 500mg per week of testo and 50mg proviron no hcg no AI ? what's wrong with EQ ? ok i've just ditched the primo and oxa, sorry for lots of questions but I need to know and learn...
Thank you very much!
unreal89Wow not to be a dick but google.com has all of the answers your asking and theres a search bar here get 2 researching just wow SMFH
done, I got that EQ needs more time, thanks a lot!
unreal89This whole cycle is a wash .. Smh
what can I do in your opinion?
Weird cycle, dosages and length. Why not just start pct and plan a better cycle?
Your advice is to break up the cycle start the pct and plan another cycle ? what about dosages too much?
what is your adivce about a cycle?
of ppg is saying what I think, is what I would suggest: do a proper pct now and do loads of research before considering running again. mid Cycle is not the time to fix your protocol issues.
100% agree
unreal89He cant do a proper pct when eq is still lingering for 4 weeks he needs to eun test for at least 2 weeks and give it 2 more weeks to clear so start pct in 4 weeks otherwise pct will be a wash as well
well i have to drop the EQ now, then i keep 500mg testo E for 2 weeks then nothing for 2 weeks and then pct. hcg and arimidex during those weeks of cycle is ok?
unreal89Yes just dont use adex or hcg during pct only clomid and nolva
day 1-15 clomid 100mg nolva 40mg
day 16-30 clomid 50mg nolva 20mg
Is enough?
unreal89I personally only run 100mg clomid for first 7 days but do as you wish i recover fairly simple so whatever you feel lkke you need hope your usong pharma grade pct and not research liquid
only pharma grade for everything also the testo... thank you so much really!
just a question, if in future i'll run a EQ I need to tapering during that 4 weeks off before pct with prop test?
asking in order to learn ... thanks
unreal89Yes that would work just make sure you research compounds esters know your shit before starting dont take a PT word for it
Now I Know, thanks a lot, really!
good catch
So youre running a somewhat advanced cycle, youre 5 weeks into it and NOW youre questioning the length and pct?
I know sounds weird, but here were I live people use things like this... i'm under a pt's advice (I pay him and he's not my seller, and he's one of the "best" around here.. or at least people say this. he let use proviron as a pct) but now i realized that something is wrong and I would to fix from now ...
That's a lot of gear, seems like the cycle wasn't planned out correctly.
could you please tell me how to set it up for those last weeks? can I remove something? Can I drop something ? what about pct?
You're running all long Esters, so I personally feel like it's a waste running them that short since your blood plasma peaked and stabilized around week 3-4.
What ester boldenone are you running? What are your prior cycles?
I was thinking to run it for 12 weeks it could be better ?
The Boldenone ester is enanthate,..
What about of primo and oxa in this cycle are they useless?
My last cycle was masteron and testovis with anavar last year
Have you ever used any of these compounds before?
Are you sure it's enanthate? I've never heard of bold e... bold cyp yes, as well as ace and undeclynate...
could you please advise me how to fix it from now?
Drop the bold. EQ is a drug that takes a long time to shine and would be preferably run for 20 weeks to really get benefits from it. You're pissing money and gear down the drain cutting it at 12, let alone 8...
Do you have any past experience with primo? I don't, so I can't recommend anything regarding that, but from what I've seen there are plenty of more competitive users on here which can advise you about primo.
What about ox?
Also, what are your goals for this cycle?
Sorry my bad, I'm confusing testo with bolde (stressful day), I'm using bolde undeclyenate
Yes I used Boldenone 2 years ago..
but this scheme was build up from my pt, but it seems to be strange at this point..
Undecyclenate should be ran at 600mg/wk minimum and a prop taper should be ran for 4 weeks after your last pin of eq and pct should begin 3 days following your last prop pin.
sorry but I don't get it, what do you mean with prop taper ? you mean use a testo proprionate for 4 weeks after 12 weeks of testoviron and EQ ? If so, why?
thanks a lot for your reply
Yes because the undecyclenate Ester takes roughly 4 weeks to leave your system so you'll be running a pct with eq still active in your system. Running the test prop for the 4 weeks that the eq is left in your system will allow you to keep plasma levels stable and get the most out of it. And since prop only has a 72 HR half life you can then run your pct 3 days after your last prop pin. Not something I've personally done however I've seen a lot of vets recommend this for people who are using eq undecyclenate.
unreal89Joey has you here you dont want to be suppresed all through pct..
could you please explain? tapering is wrong?
Honestly bro my recommendation would be to cut it short. Trust me when I say I understand the frustration in that because as much as I didn't want to I just did it too. Fortunately I was running eq cyp so it was out faster but it happens. The cycle is off and it's unfortunate that you'd paid somebody to do this for you. Your picture says that you know a little something about nutrition so the guys on here will have no problem helping you plan out a cycle they're really good about that here.
So you would break it now and then start the pct, but I thought if i drop off primo and oxandrolone and keep with testo E and EQ is a good cycle.. what do you think ? because I have some gear right here, and it is better to finish that keep it till next year
Yea man I'd come off completely and run pct and take a Few months to recoup after maybe 3-4 months and just stick around and you'll see that some of the biggest guys here do the simplest cycles and get the most benefit from it. Besides like I said you need to be on eq for about 16 weeks minimum and I didn't see any hcg in your pct which is going to be a necessity being on for that long.