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-1 Cutting cycle prepping for my first competition. Would like some feedback and opinions.

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I'm new here before I start stats are.
24, 5'10, 195lbs, bf 14%
This would be my 4th cycle previous 3 have been
test cyp, 500 mg tren E 400mg deca 300mg
Last cycle was test c @1000 mg deca @600mg and tren E @ 600mg (all this ofcourse 2 shots weekly for the doses I posted splitting them up) (no sides, I'm prone to gyno, only high bp maybe break out some)
Pct for all was hcg & clomed on last shot.
Use to be 140lbs naturally skinny.

NOW... This is the first time I'll be runnin this cycle
Winstrol 50md ED
Clen 15iu (yesterday did first shot the shakes were bearable could've been increased cuz I took a fat burner maybe)
Tren a 100mg eod
Test p 100mg eod
Mast p 100mg eod
Pct in hand not sure if I need to switch it up but Clen and hcg always do me good.

What are your thoughts specially on my dosing take in mind competition is 11 weeks from now.
Thanks in advance

Bulkdaddy's picture

Bro your 24 years old! You need to be atleast 25 years old for steroid discussion here. You need to wait and that cycle is just bound to fuc* you up bad!

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Catalyst's picture

"First competition"

What is it?

Trenhard's picture

Classic physique

Catalyst's picture

Fella this all over the top for what you're doing. At 24 years of age, you've used a hell of a lot of gear in big doses and now you're running a comp prep cycle I'd suggest prematurely in terms of your development. You seem like a decent lad that isn't got to have a fit because you don't hear what you'd like, so I'll spell this out for you. Your show is too soon, you're not going to be ready and you look like you're trying to push too fast by running big lumps of gear to counteract that. I suspect you already know that. You don't build a stage winning physique quickly, gear or no gear. Density and maturity cones from years of hard graft, solid nutrition and frankly pain!

I'd be happy to help you out, but not on this path you're currently on. I can only see this ending up with you in a mess way too young.

Bulkdaddy's picture

I could have swore I just said the same damn thing!

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KAM1314's picture

What pct do you have on hand?

Trenhard's picture

Hcg & clomed on hand

Dickkhead's picture

Bro, Makwa is right. Generally, other than a final dry out and your carb up, you want to be ready two weeks before the show. I know that is out of the question here. But, moreover, if I were your prep coach, I couldn't get you ready from where you are now. It's not possible. Keep leaning out, just pick another show.

Trenhard's picture

I was able to put the profile pic blurry as hell but that pic was 2 days ago

Catalyst's picture

Top right drop down menu, click submit, pictures, you'll work it out from there.

Trenhard's picture

Thanks. Pics are up.

Trenhard's picture

Okey I'm not accurately calculating my body fat idk how can I upload a picture here so you guys can see. I'm not covered in fat I'm solid all around just have a little bit of fat around my lower abdomen still can see full 6 pack. I really want you guys too see how I've done so far, and where I'm at right now. I probably didn't get the best advice. And I probably could've should've would have. But what's done is done. I don't take anything anyone here is saying negatively. Again first time I jump on a forum to share and I'm glad I'm getting sincere" answeres. It's not letting me add a pic says tittle not found help me out. Thanks

PumpDaddy1's picture

You should have done many years of training to fill out naturally before you did any gear. Your also too young . 2.2g of gear per week is way too much for a person with your experience. Clen is bad don't take it. Winstrol can help you loose weight if you have a proper calorie defecit. Why take them both? Let winstrol work its magic. Don't just throw in my chemicals for the hell of it.

Trenhard's picture

I'll will do that thanks for the advice.

Catalyst's picture

4 cycles including some big boy runs to achieve this?

24, 5'10, 195lbs, bf 14%

Last cycle was test c @1000 mg deca @600mg and tren E @ 600mg

2.2g of gear per week and you're less than 200lbs without low BF. Fella, like it or not you need a wake up call.

Trenhard's picture

My max was 210lbs I've been citing down the past 5 weeks..and now running this cycle.

Dickkhead's picture

This is what that whole Bigmurph ultra mega post in the general forum was all about. I think the board is coming or even has come around on this but we have been cosigning steroid cycles for these lightweight guys with insufficient muscle base for so long now it's hard to start really paying attention to this. Your right those stats with his drug use are abysmal.

ChickenBirdOfGains's picture

Age: 24

Nope

My thoughts are you should read the rules

Trenhard's picture

Also not sure if you could lmk what you think on my dosing for this cycle maybe need to adjust some.. Just want to head in the right direction

Beltabuser's picture

We can't help you

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Trenhard's picture

Richard I didn't go in to depth with everything my very first was just test cyp and anavar... I've been dieting for the last 5 weeks not heavy but slowly and seeing good results wasn't really poor planing it's that got off my bulk few weeks ago. What's wrong with the winny? I lose weight extremely fast if I don't keep my food up... That's why I thought 10-15 weeks is enough for my body

Makwa's picture

only 11wks out. I wouldn't be able to do it. Plan for a different show.
You are shooting up clen? Why?

Trenhard's picture

There is another one in march I could go for. But I want to see if I can make it for this one. Trying to burn some little fat I have on my abs my diet, well I'm eating the cleanest I ever have still can't say it's on point but at least keeping an idea of my macros daily

Trenhard's picture

Sucks for being honest. Not my first or last cycle, but I guess if it helps counciously ill be 25 in January not that anyone cares lol. Thought I'd get a second opinion.

Trenhard's picture

Exactly why I jumped on here. I wanted people who don't know me give me honest opinions.
Thanks

Makwa's picture

I would rather have one buddy be honest with me and tell me I am not ready for the stage than to have 10 other people say "yah man you look great." Would suck to show up on stage just to be used to wipe the floor with because some people thought I looked great. Big difference between looking great and being prepared and stage ready. Brutal honesty is the best policy for someone looking to step on stage. One bad experience and you may never want to do it again.

Trenhard's picture

I agree 100% I know for sure if I didn't think I could do it, might just not enter for now but I have a strong mindset right now And I'm still gona train and diet as if I were going to compete nov 5th. And hey if I'm not ready then I'll just continue for the next show. I want to feel that experience also. Not sure if I could post follow up pics in here

BigWA67's picture

Not to be a dick bro but you probably won't get the advice your looking for because your 24 the rule is no gear advice if your under 25