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I've seen more than a few people concerned with hair loss and thought I might share what I've learned in my years of research. I started noticeably losing hair when I was 16, and I've managed to keep it under control even with the use of AAS through a lot of research and choosing the right compounds. I've even managed to grow some back using other products which will be discussed at the end.
If you aren't prone don't worry you will not lose hair on anything! Look at Boston Loyd and Jay Cutler for example. They run grams of gear and have full heads of hair.

So here's a list of steroids and their ability to cause hair loss in those prone to MPB in MOST cases. Keep in mind dosage and duration of use also matter but this is a rough list:

Almost never causes hair loss:
Turinabol
Anavar (if real)
Deca/NPP (without finasteride!)

Only occasionally causes hair loss:
Primo (if real)
Equipoise
Superdrol
Low dose test (under 500mg a week w/ finasteride or under 300mg w/o)

Will most likely cause hair loss:
Higher dosed test
Trenbolone (if kept to 25mg a day it COULD be ok)
Dianabol

Will almost definitely shed hair if you are prone:
Proviron
Winstrol
Masteron
Anadrol
Halotestin
Cheque drops
M1T
Mtren

What else can you do to stop hair loss besides limiting AAS choices?

Finasteride: This is FDA approved to treat hair loss and works by blocking the DHT conversion of testosterone at the 5-alpha reductase enzyme which is what binds to hair follicles in the scalp and starves them of the nutrients they need. Do NOT use with nandrolone as nandrolone converts to dihydronandrolone (a weaker androgen) in the scalp which is what makes it relatively safe. I personally didn't like using this as it made me feel awful and destroyed my wood. A lot of users report good results however.

Ketoconazole shampoo: ketoconazole is actually an antifungal medication that blocks DHT from binding at the scalp and in turn saves your hair. I've noticed excellent results from this and my preferred shampoo is Regenepure DR. It comes with several other ingredients that have also been proven to help with hair loss. However you can get a generic cheaper shampoo with just the ketoconazole if you prefer.

Minoxidil/azelaic acid: Minoxidil is FDA approved to treat hair loss and although the mechanism is not fully understood, the current theory is that it reopens follicles that DHT has starved of nutrients and allows them to grow again. It is also one of the only things that has been proven to regrow hair! This held true in myself as my hairline is less receded and hair is thicker than when I was a teenager. Azelaic acid essentially works in the same manner as ketoconazole and blocks DHT from binding to the follicle. I get these in a combined form in a product called lipogaine.

There you have it. I hope that helped some people out and don't take "just shave it bro" as an answer.

C.Tier's picture

Will running finasteride with the Tren help?

Dickkhead's picture

No,

C.Tier's picture

How are the pros keeping their skin so clear? And I think I'll run the Tren and mast at 25 mg per day? Hopefully that will be low enough, I mean I'd rather see gains than have hair so f it.

Dickkhead's picture

Tren and mast at 25 mg per day

What?

Bro, I don't know what you're doing but whatever it is, please stop. You have a cycle in the cycle logs up for review?

C.Tier's picture

Test E 600mg
Tren ace 175mg
Test prop 175mg
Mast 175mg

Caber
Aromasin
HCG

C.Tier's picture

Taken with heed. I'll just stick with the test e and EQ. I did good last cycle on that. Maybe add Deca?

Dickkhead's picture

Long ester Test and a cut stack? What is it that you think you are going to do with that?

C.Tier's picture

Keep my test level steady w/o having to add Mls to my already EOD pins.

Dickkhead's picture

Bro, I know nothing about you. But you are running a bodybuilding contest prep cut stack - Test P Tren A Mast P. A prep stack is for cutting to sub 4% body fat for the stage. Outside of that it is of limited use. So, what are you trying to do?

C.Tier's picture

I can agree with the mast and maybe the faster prop, but Tren can be used wherever. I made sick gains with just test e and EQ. I wanted to add a little more so maybe cut the mast and prop? Run Tren E? What do you think?

Dickkhead's picture

Sick gains? Bro, you're not even 200 lbs. at 5' 11". That's a red flag. You should not even be using anabolics at your height and weight and age. You don't run steroids to build a muscle base from nothing. But, that's my personal opinion and I don't think I represent the eroids community.

You should propose your cycle in the cycle logs section and let the guys weigh in. That's what that section of the website is for - to get cycle advice. Not here.

tonytulo's picture

Your wasting your breath. Tall guys under 190 running tren and cut stacks to make "sick gains" the fuck is this world coming to? Fucking sad. I see why gear in the states is illegal, christ could you imagine the people who would run gear if it was readily available everywhere? We would have guys who barely look like they lift running gear everywhere even more than now. Everyone claims hard gainer until they get their training and diet laughed at when they post up. Fucking joke. It's hard work and people aren't about that life and couldn't imagine the work put in. Always copping out looking for easier solutions. ..

C.Tier's picture

195 on cycle. Listen I've been pushing weight for God damn years. I am genetically declined, I would never be natural 200 EVER NO WAY. Not lean atleast. So thanks but no thanks.

C.Tier's picture

I probably don't hit 6,000 off cycle but for sure on cycle. I don't have time tonight to get super detailed. But I eat the same things every day just cooked differently. 5 whole eggs in the AM with whole grain toast or oat meal. 3 hrs later it's a mass gainer, 1200 calories and 50g protein. Lunch is almost always chicken or fish, around 10 ounces with rice and broccoli. Then I'll eat some hard boiled eggs preworkout, post workout the same mass gainer, dinner is red meat or pork everynight. With rice and broccoli. Then I'll usuually scarf a few eggs before bed with a regular shake or BCAA's

C.Tier's picture

Thank you for being civilized.

tonytulo's picture

Typical depending on supplements. Gainers and protein shakes don't count. Real food period. You're not eating nearly enough. The bigger you get the more you need to eat. That's your mistake already. When im in the game im eating 6 to 7 meals a day. Over 1000grams of carbs and 390 grams of protein. Meal timing and carb cycleing. Eating the same shit everyday and the same macros smfh and then letting the diet go to shit off cycle. Whole grain toast lmfao you'd be lucky if you absorbed even half that protein in that gainer shake when you pounded it. Even if there is any protein in that supplement at all given there's no law stating they need to have anything in that container thats on the label. Big companies getting caught up all the time selling junk.....

Gains are made in the kitchen outside of the gym. Not in the pin your sadly confused....

The Impastable's picture

You're 26... Youve been pushing weight for what... 5-6 years? When's the last time you demolished 30lbs of boar within a week?

C.Tier's picture

I did everything right, waited until 25, trained for 7 years, counted macros for a fucking year. No results just shredded.

The Impastable's picture

I'm not gonna hijack the thread, just saying you could probably use a little guidance with your diet. I'd hit up the diet clinic and be honest with your daily intake, I'm sure there's things some good advice that can be sent your way - like eating an entire hind leg from a boar ;)

Also, if that's your face in your profile pic I'd crop it out. Why make it any easier for the feds?

tonytulo's picture

I don't waste my breath anymore. Refer to my response above.....

The Impastable's picture

Yeah I saw the diet he laid out. There's no heftiness to it...

C.Tier's picture

You act like using PED's is something exclusive that you must protect. It's no different from using supplements. Plus with the meds these days steroid induced hypogonadism is reversible even in severe cases. So yeah save your breath. It shouldn't be such an issue when someone makes the choice to use PED's. Support their decision by reinforcing proper technique on cycle. I've done all my research. I don't g a f if you think I should be natty. Lol

tonytulo's picture

It's extremely different than supplements you God damn fool. Watch your tongue or you can go play on another site. Face it bro my wife almost weighs as much as you and is 5'3 and competes and hasn't used half of what you have. She is just dedicated and her life revolves around this lifestyle and competing. I am 5'7 and was onstage heavier than you at a tested show and was a "hard gainer" growing up. I trained for my body type and ate a fuck load of the right shit. I didn't depend on supplements and drugs. I looked like I was on drugs before I used drugs. Stop being lazy and put in the fucking work.

C.Tier's picture

I'm using gear, sorry you had to work harder than me for it.

tonytulo's picture

Sure did. Didn't need gear to look average.

C.Tier's picture

Calm down. Why are you mad. lol

Dickkhead's picture

You have genetic problems? Hard gainer? Must use gear? Dang, I have heard that tune so many times before from people that briefly had accounts here. See how your plight plays to a wider audience. Maybe you will find a sympathetic ear here.

C.Tier's picture

Lol so why do you use gear? Can't get there natty?

Dickkhead's picture

I was sitting at 305 lbs. on my last bulk earlier this year. I'm two inches shorter than you as well. I carried it pretty well also. I compete. We're all natural bro. Didn't you know?

C.Tier's picture

lol nice, I'll never see 300 even with gear. I wish I could. Some people got it some people don't. But we all do it to look our best. Don't bash me cause I'm lighter than you, I have a good frame. And I'm gaining nicely. I'm sick of hearing "you should be natty longer" I've been natty long enough fucking with diet and training and not seeing shit. I used some Enanthate and gained 10 solid 2 months out from pct. that to me is worth it. I enjoy the gym more, I feel better, I look better. Appreciate your support though.

Dickkhead's picture

Well, I would still post up in the cycle logs for advice. This is NOT a bodybuilding website or community. You just happened to bump into me that's all. Competitive bodybuilders are a very small minority on this board. People are here to help.

C.Tier's picture

It's not a BB website? Whoa, what is it?

Dickkhead's picture

It's a community of AAS users. Eroids is a steroid source review website. The forums that we're on here came later as an addition.

The vast majority of people here that work out just use AAS to enhance their experience in the gym. They are not amateur or professional competitive athletes.

They are people like you. Unless you compete in men's physique or something and I missed it?

C.Tier's picture

No, I would but I'm covered in tattoos. I'm just recreational. I understand we bumped heads, but I'm not that guy. I paid my dues. I'll pick your brain perhaps in the Messenger.

Dickkhead's picture

If you send me a friend request (FR) I will accept it. That is necessary to exchange private mail (PM). If you get me in PM, however, then I can tell you what I really think. LMAO

DontAtMe's picture

Not to sound like a total noob, but where can you get some of this stuff, other than Amazon?

kh1216's picture

I don't know besides Amazon that's where I've always gotten it

DontAtMe's picture

Thanks man

fusebox's picture

I use a shampoo called nioxin. It's relatively cheap on amazon. It helps a little but anyone susceptible to mpb as I am its just a matter of time.

kh1216's picture

I've slowly started thinking that as long as you catch the hair loss before it starts to become a problem its a whole lot easier to keep it. Growing it back however is another story and you can only do so much at that point

dudebro's picture

Laser combs work well also. I replaced fina with 2% nizoral and a laser comb and get pretty much the same results, maybe even a little better.

kh1216's picture

Laser comb? Huh interesting that never came up in anything I looked at. Saw microrollers to get the minox in better but I never saw that. I don't really think finasteride should be used until it's the only option left because of all those horror stories people write about it. I hated the stuff personally

Dickkhead's picture

What horror stories bro? See no one told me about any horror stories and I use it and it seems to work. Is my death now impending? Should I review my will forthwith? Time to revisit the family mausoleum and make sure its tidy and clean and waiting for my arrival?

dudebro's picture

Not sure if you saw this but it was one of the better write ups I've seen on here.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/everything-about-dht-r...

Dickkhead's picture

Thanks bro. Appreciated. Smile

kh1216's picture

Lol nothing too troubling but some guys complained about permanent ED and gyno/ emotional issues. But the easy cure for that is trt and everything goes back to normal