posted Fri, 03/11/2016 - 16:45
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Flat muscles on tren?
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Why do my muscles always look flat on tren even with high carbs? I'm running 500 tren ace a week and 250 test a week? I always look flat?? What's the reasoning behind tren and glycogen depletion?/ flatbess
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Plus you feel like that when your test is lower than tren!
That has something to do with your carb intake!
Not sure how long u've been on this cycle, but I'm gonna guess 5wks maybe 6., prolly eat'n right say'n wtf., my opinion is that everybody goes thru this 2-3wk phase where their losin' or lost most their water weight n look fat & flat...just wait it out, if my theory fits you. If not, yea, take some drol., lol
something that people havnt mentioned that is also VERY important is sodium intake, if your flat and not getting a great pump you need to up your sodium. sea salt, not the processed stuff. salt it to taste. the first few days you may gain a small amount of water weight, but it will normalize after a few days of increased sodium.
if your not using an AI then i wouldnt worry about it, but if you are another possible problem could be that your estrogen is crashed, this will also flatten you out.
there are tons of other things that could help you out but its hard to know without knowing things like what your diet looks like etc.
U can use drol to fix this as irongame said below or u can just up your water intake. Min 2 gal / day on Tren. U can also take a peek at your blood sugar. Insulin draws water into the muscles. The metformin may work. I've never tried it. But, in theory, it could work.
Eat more carbs I like the idea of adding adrol to fill you up with water may have to try that
IMO, it's the same reason tren is known to burn fat, it burns up all those carbs you put in your body leaving mosfly fat for your body to run on. It does the same thing to me when I get really lean, then I add anadrol and it fills me up and I never look better. All the water goes into the muscle instead of subq and you just look full dense lean and dry. Carb load works at this point for some reason. It only works when you're lean though, when I run it when my bf is higher I get the subq bloat. That's my theory snyways.
spike03zHow do you think glucophage will work along with tren. Would be afraid of going hypo since tren already eating up all the carbs
na, i cant see how it will do a thing from a biochem standpoint. People think glucophage is like oral you know what, its not,its in a class of drugs called biguanides, made to increase ones senseitivity to insulin and decrease production of glucose from the liver. doesnt do shit for shuttling nutrients into the muscle, but its great for guys who use the injectable stuff as overtime they need more and more of it, by taking metformin (glucophage) it will help get their insulin sensitivity back. There is a class of drugs that do work the way you want, its what they give to prediabetics or diabetics before they need to go on the injectable stuff. Its a class of drugs called sulfonylureas, theres a few different drugs available and they shuttle nutrients out of the bloodstream into the muscles.
But anyways even with the real deal I never had the success filling out with even the injectable stuff at the end of a tren run. Anadrol was much much more effective.
Elaborate bro. Let's get scientific this is what I live for lol.
spike03zJust a thought. Since glucophage directs carbs into the muscles keeping them fuller. But glucophage can cause hypoglycemia.
glucophage actually does not cause hypoglycemia. glucophage is acctually quite an interesting drug, its mechanism of actions are not 100% understood. it will keep insulin down, so i dont think its great for filling back out. it is not equivalent to an oral insulin.
glucophage can also can hinder anabolism and cell growth.
here is a video by a great contest prep coach, Matt Porter about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFj6WbA1zFo
all it does is increase insulin sensitivity and attempt to prevent the liver from releasing glucose, not oral insulin at all. like I said above, good for those users to help with their insuilin sensitivity but it doesnt shuttle anything. Im not even sure anayones even heard of the actual oral versions that are given to early diabetics, one is called chlorpropamide, Glucotrol, and its extended release version, then glyburide ( it has a bunch of brand names), and theres one more. I bought some metformin thinking what everyone else thought, you know its an oral version etc etc, wont be as harsh, but it will still be effective but after a few doses and readings off my glucose meter with no drop in blood sugar I did the homework that should have been done before and realized that metformin does nothing for shuttling nutrients. should have done that reserach before but hey the stuff is cheap as hell so all in all i lost like 20 bucks.