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Updated w/ bloodwork.. Been almost a month now since I stopped...need advice on what to do next.

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Bloodwork results -

https://www.eroids.com/pics/1-month-since-last-pin-bloodwork-please-comment

Comments?

I started a thread a few weeks ago with my bad experience of the Test cycle. I took 3 pins, got really sick, test shut down, had an infection (high WBC). I stopped after the 3rd pin, got bloodwork, waited 2 weeks from the 3rd pin, and started PCT Nolva/Clomid (my doubt is that its from the same source UGL as the test)

Today is exactly 2 weeks on the PCT, and I am still not getting erections, i have no desire to have sex, i just seem shut down still. do I continue this PCT for another 2 weeks or should I go get bloodwork again this weekend to see what is going on? Cant believe after 3 shots all of this happened..i am not sure if natural recovery will even happen - what are your thoughts?

idontwannanamehere's picture

link is not working, at least for me. It's just dumping me into the list of gear pics.

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alpha2000's picture

Your LH is above normal amd probably due to the serms. Your test is on the high end of normal to. I would say your pct can finish now as your testosterone is fine and I would expect your estrogen levels to fall when you stop serms because estrogen production will fall as your LH levels return to normal. As it's probably the serms keeping the LH so high. Im no expert, just my 0.02 worth.

There are so many factors which can cause low sex drive etc. But my bet is after you had a few failures when your test was low it's affected you psycologically. But again I'm no expert, just 0.02 worth.

Dacky's picture

LH levels are high which is exactly what you would expect on gtg Clomid/Nolva. Your test levels are good too so I would say your recovery is looking good. Your estrogen is right on the upper end of the high range and while it shouldn't be hitting your libido it is possible that it is just a bit high for you. You could happily halve this and not run into issue with low estrogen. A low dose of aro (maybe 12.5mg E3D) would probably do the job here and you won't have rebound when you stop. That said I am not convinced it is your estrogen causing your issues. Another major factor is that Clomid is known to cause significant libido issues. The other option for you is to leave your estrogen as is now, ride out the rest of your PCT, come off the SERMS and see if your libido comes back. Retest 6 weeks after the end of your PCT to check levels. You must remember you were injecting hormones and this will inpact your endocrine system. I know you weren't on cycle for long at all so what you are experiencing is unusual but not impossible. Over time your body will reach homeostasis and things will normalise. Good luck.

Catalyst's picture

Great plan and advice from Dacky. I'd agree with that approach.

lofter86's picture

Thanks man - good stuff over here. I really appreciate it and will follow your advice. Better luck next time to me I hope.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

it wont work until he edits the two .. periods off the end of the link.

any link with a . period at the end will never work

alpha2000's picture

How long were you on cycle for? Are ythe boys regaining some size? If not have you considered giving the boys a jump start with some hcg? I don't know if thats a good idea or not after 2 weeks starting pct but I'm sure someone here will know.

And has already been said, until you get blood tests you won't know if its a hormonal or psychological problem.

lofter86's picture

this " cycle " lasted Less than two weeks. I got blood done today will check resukts next week. boys seem smaller than before but then again I wasn't checking their size before this.

alpha2000's picture

Only 2 weeks. So many maybes and coyld be's. Maybe your just run down with a bug still. Either way just speak to a doctor and let him/her know the background of this and go with his/her advice.

Catalyst's picture

Didn't you tell me you were getting blood work today?
I've told you several times that you have to get blood work done or you're guessing......

lofter86's picture

Yup I'm doing it today.

By the way, is it normal for test to smell a certain way when you put the vial near your nose ? The bottle I had smelled weird, not only that it burned my eyes a little bit.....

alpha2000's picture

Did anyone else run the same batch of test with you? That would be a good indicator if they have had similar problems to you or not.

lofter86's picture

This was a batch I bought in early 2014, source is no longer active - used to be a top source back then.

freedom1981's picture

So this can't be happened from 3 test pin . But as one below said could be bunk or the lebel test and what's in it could be tren . For me you don't need pct . It's psychological problem in your mind . Get blood test and go to your doctor . And the fair you have in your mind about sex drive leave it away otherwise will put you down . Do blood test first .

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Dacky's picture

Continue the PCT and get blood work done. Come back and post the results here. One question are your PCT meds pharmagrade or ugl?

lofter86's picture

first two weeks UGL - pharma grade coming in this week

Dacky's picture

Get your bloods taken. Your SERMS could be bunk. This should tell you as if they're gtg you will have high LH at the very least. Keep us posted brother.

lofter86's picture

Ok, I'll go this weekend, again. Thats what I thought..